2024 NCAA's - Match/discussion threads (merged)

[AgSurfer]

Agree. I don't mean to be a smart a$$ with my statement. PSU always had a strong wrestling history. Imo could have been better that's all. You mentioned the Fitz situation. Was one of the incidents having to do with wrestlers riding the luggage conveyers at an airport?lol. I assume Fritz's situation was more than that. WE ARE!!!

I have a HS friend who is a professor in the finance department at Penn State. He’s also a big wrestling fan. He told me a long time ago that Fritz made the mistake of being too chummy with the wrestlers. Having a close relationship with the guys is important, but at times, the head coach has to be the head coach. That includes setting boundaries for everyone and not encouraging behavior that can lead to discipline problems.

Everyone says that Fritz was a great coach and really well liked. He just made the mistake of forgetting that he was no longer a college student athlete.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Will be astonished if Carter beats both former champs today.
Far from hate, it’s acknowledgment of what doing so in his altered state of health/conditioning would be . . . astonishing.
Can’t recall if such a single day combo has ever been done at NCAA’s. Can’t imagine a fiercer competitor who could pull it off.

Griffith did not look good at the end of his match. Maybe he’s just not hiding it like CS. He’s certainly not jogging off the mat.

 

[jmadden1998]

As for consis, by the end of tonight the consi semis will be set, as will the 7th/8th matchups. So guys like Kasak and Nagao will have to wrestle 4 times today to get to consi semis tomorrow morning.

You are correct.

 

[AgSurfer]

50 pushups for you after each Carter front-side win the rest of the tournament! 😀

I’ll take you up on that. Which arm do you want me to use? 😁

 

[NittanyLion84]

Carter Starocci Looking Solid in Round One

 

[kps7987]

Definitely whatever he has trained with and used to compete in Day 1, he should change that for Day 2 with no additional training or opportunity to adjust.

Considering that he is wrestling at 50, 60, 70, 80 or 90 percent based on message board observers, a change in brace could ge thim to wrestle at 55, 65, 75, 85 or even 95 percent. But anything greater than a 72% Carter has a 96% chance to be a 110% Lewis as long as he weighs in at the 99th percentile. Of course all said in jest to point out the silliness of the observer evaluating athletic performance percentage.

 

[mcpat]

@SlipperyPete12 will you be doing PBP again? (Please)

 

[El-Jefe]

Considering that he is wrestling at 50, 60, 70, 80 or 90 percent based on message board observers, a change in brace could ge thim to wrestle at 55, 65, 75, 85 or even 95 percent. But anything greater than a 72% Carter has a 96% chance to be a 110% Lewis as long as he weighs in at the 99th percentile. Of course all said in jest to point out the silliness of the observer evaluating athletic performance percentage.

That was the same poster who said Carter should've wrestled at B10s to boost his conditioning.

 

[NittanyLion84]

Mitchell Mesenbrink’s Round 1 Highlights

 

[oldcougar65]

We sent practically my whole wrestling team to Fitz's camp in the early 80's. My kids loved him, and he loved the kids.

Prior to Cael's coming, a lot of people felt PSU was never as strong as it should have been. We knew PA was the center of wrestling in the USA. Tracking AA's, just like this year and starting in the 80's, PA had the most AA's of any state, usually by a lot. And yet, at Nationals, PSU was never quite there. I was among those who believed that if PSU could convince PA wrestlers to stay home, they'd become a reliable national power. Then Cael came and PSU became the ONLY national power. I'll admit, that wasn't on my radar.

re: wrestling from knees
I won two of my biggest bouts in college when my opponents went to their knees from neutral. When they did that I hit them with a front-on rush, bowling them over backwards for 2. I felt they didn't have a strong enough base when they went to their knees. And I confirmed that by a frontal attack. One disclaimer: in both instances, the other kid's knees went into my stomach as he went back, and I was gasping for breath for about an hour after my bouts. You take the bitter with the batter.

 

[kps7987]

That was the same poster who said Carter should've wrestled at B10s to boost his conditioning.

I'm sure. My response was just to point out the sillyness of judging Carter's percentage when in fact it is something that can never be determined.

 

[5q]

Let’s go boys

 

[CentexLion]

Yeah that was stupid. Army guy showed a lot of poise. Great kid

But it was a great opportunity missed to do the splits and give the double bird to the crowd. Think of the recruiting poster right there. **** You. We are Army! (much better than We Want You!!)

 

[El-Jefe]

I like Cormier’s enthusiasm plus he does know a few things about wrestling. On top of that, he’s doing a great job at Gilroy HS in CA as their head wrestling coach.

There is nothing about Cormier that we wouldn't immediately forgive if some of his Gilroy or club kids came to PSU.

 

[El-Jefe]

But it was a great opportunity missed to do the splits and give the double bird to the crowd. Think of the recruiting poster right there. **** You. We are Army! (much better than We Want You!!)

Be all that you can be!

 

[1AA]

Good Morning Gentlemen. Hoping everyone is bright eyed this morning with some lead left in the pencil. Had to go to job for an hour this morning but back wearing out the couch. Give em hell fellas!

 

[NittanyLion84]

Braeden Davis vs Brett Ungar(Cornell) - 125 LBS NCAA Championships Second Round Full Match, with the Jeff Byers Call

 

[Random4598375]

Will be astonished if Carter beats both former champs today.
Far from hate, it’s acknowledgment of what doing so in his altered state of health/conditioning would be . . . astonishing.
Can’t recall if such a single day combo has ever been done at NCAA’s. Can’t imagine a fiercer competitor who could pull it off.

Lewis the real test. Griffith is just as injured as Starocci.

 

[SlipperyPete12]

@SlipperyPete12 will you be doing PBP again? (Please)

Sure, I can do that.

 

[mhlarch]

Will be astonished if Carter beats both former champs today.
Far from hate, it’s acknowledgment of what doing so in his altered state of health/conditioning would be . . . astonishing.
Can’t recall if such a single day combo has ever been done at NCAA’s. Can’t imagine a fiercer competitor who could pull it off.

I agree.......but I took another look at the bracket and that seeding is a disgrace! The bottom half is weak, and then they stuff 3 former champs in the top. Really disappointing. Carter is a warrior....I hope he can overcome.

 

[CentexLion]

Sure, I can do that.

Byers is on!! LionVision is working!!!!

 

[CentexLion]

Byers is on!! LionVision is working!!!!

Davis on Mat 3 on the start

 

[PSUbluTX]

But it was a great opportunity missed to do the splits and give the double bird to the crowd. Think of the recruiting poster right there. **** You. We are Army! (much better than We Want You!!)

In related news, reportedly the Ferrari clan has adopted a new motto:

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[Ruby Tues]

Lets have a day boys!!!! Get some!!! Oh and somebody have a drink (or two) for me today....

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Here we go! I have a feeling Davis is going to have his hands full.

 

[Brian LB-U]

Let’s Roll!!!

 

[PSUer1989]

Here we go! I just used my laptop to open the Bubbaland website instead of my phone. What a great website- I had no idea it had so many tab options at the bottom!

 

[nittinsc]

Everyone in the champion bracket will be on mat 3 or 6, except Bernie will be on 5. No mats for Aaron or Tyler yet.

 

[NitFan53]

Here we go! I just used my laptop to open the Bubbaland website instead of my phone. What a great website- I had no idea it had so many tab options at the bottom!

link please

 

[SlipperyPete12]

link please

2024 NCAA Wrest Championship

 

[NitFan53]

2024 NCAA Wrest Championship

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[AgSurfer]

re: wrestling from knees
I won two of my biggest bouts in college when my opponents went to their knees from neutral. When they did that I hit them with a front-on rush, bowling them over backwards for 2. I felt they didn't have a strong enough base when they went to their knees. And I confirmed that by a frontal attack.

Absolutely agree. My experience is that when a wrestler drops down to one or two knees, there is a split second opportunity where they are not completely stabilized. If you can catch them at that point with a hard backwards push, they'll go over.

 

[McScoreley]

Still no tape on Braeden's hand (the new joke)

 

[MDAlum]

Braeden Davis vs Brett Ungar(Cornell) - 125 LBS NCAA Championships Second Round Full Match, with the Jeff Byers Call

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Unger never tried anything offensive. If the officials let this be the standard of wrestling then Lewan will be crowned King.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

At least they are both going at it. Davis looks bigger.

 

[CentexLion]

Here we go! I have a feeling Davis is going to have his hands full.

Is LionVision 2 minutes behind ESPN+ video?

EDIT: I had to restart LionVision. All OK

 

[AgSurfer]

Good Morning Gentlemen. Hoping everyone is bright eyed this morning with some lead left in the pencil. Had to go to job for an hour this morning but back wearing out the couch. Give em hell fellas!

Just make sure our lumber supplies keep coming! 😁

 

[PSUbluTX]

Is Davis chewing gum?

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Played with fire. Damnit.

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Davis goes down to Figs