He still #2 goat in my mindCarter is all timer no doubt about it. He would have bonused his way to victory if healthy. Angel just doing Angel things. Carter was in no danger of losing though.
4 titles
TWO loses
He still #2 goat in my mindCarter is all timer no doubt about it. He would have bonused his way to victory if healthy. Angel just doing Angel things. Carter was in no danger of losing though.
LOL if they didn't counts Nolf's losses how can they count Carters?trash it like guys in the NFL breaking old records by playin 6 more games.what a joke!He still #2 goat in my mind
4 titles
TWO loses
Ain’t that the truth! The dictionary needs a picture of Carter as the definition of WARRIOR! I can just imagine the “lore” that will grow around the story of Carter. Winning it all with a broken hand one year and a torn knee ligament in 24’. Every wrestler who come to the Nationals with an injured knee will be compared to Carter. Ten years from now, he will be considered one of the top 2 or 3 four-timers, because of his tenacity.Once with one hand
Once with one leg
Excuses are for Spencer Lee
His dad was matside as well.You really think our coaches weren't trying to let him know the situation?
When he lost in first round I said to my crew, he's gonna make the Nick Lee freshman run..... I was close.He won 7 in a row at nationals, 5 by bonus, including dubs over the 1, 3 and 5 seeds. Up a weight class. As a true freshman. Forced into the lineup after the starter got hurt.
I’m not counting him out of anything.
Did it appear to you that Levi had issues with 3 day weigh ins? He looked better then ever IYAM. That bracket he WRECKED was LOADED.So…do Levi and Mitchell switch weights?
The offseason hasn't arrived until the board ponders changing guys' weights for no reason other than boredom. Perhaps it's more fun to potentially downgrade multiple weights for the sake of change.Did it appear to you that Levi had issues with 3 day weigh ins? He looked better then ever IYAM. That bracket he WRECKED was LOADED.
Leave 'em right where they are.
Exactly, attack the good leg cuz he cant stand on/use the bad one for much.I would attack the healthy leg. Leaving the weaker leg to defend.
Always loved that show.l lol
Excellent point! It was definitely a team effort.We actually had 10 scoring wrestlers. Davis and Nagao contributed 3.5 points so without them the record would not have been broken.
EDIT: I forgot about Nagao's tech so the combination contributed 5 points.
Both will be so much better next year because they came so close… like Levi and Kerk this year!You can't make me believe that Mesenbrink doesn't have a reasonably high wrestling IQ and the commensurate "mat sense", but you've got a true freshman who's wrestling a former national champion on the biggest stage he's ever imagined. I think he was just excited and lost sense of what the reality was because of adrenaline, the crowd, the noise, the excitement, etc.. It happens. Someone else mentioned that briefly the matside score did say Mesenbrink 8 Carr 7 and that may have been the last time he looked and that he thought he actually WAS leading by 1 at the end of regulation. Whatever.
I actually feel worse for Beau Bartlett today because Beau's a senior (with a year of eligibility remaining) and because he wrestled a FABULOUS tactical match and wrestled better than Mendez (whereas I'm not sure that I'd claim the same for Mesenbrink). Doesn't matter now, the match is over and Mitchell (the Missile) lost, but we get to watch him 3 more times and I'd actually be a little bit surprised if he doesn't become a 3-time champion.
Don’t mess with the family was Bo’s message!Bo’s tweets certainly fanned the flames. At any rate none of this is anything I will remember about last night in about a week….
You might be right but I think it was pretty bad taste for him to say that on a public broadcast. Besides, if that is going to be his strategy, I don’t think it was wise to let Carter and the PSU coaches know abouCarter's fans??? Really? Big fan of Carter and I find nothing wrong with what Borroughs said. Carter has less mobility on that leg, so of course you're going to attack that leg. How precisely do you get a TD without attacking one of the legs? Just because you're attacking a leg to try to get a TD and score, does not mean you're trying to re-injure the leg. To suggest that an opponent should consider an injured leg "off limits" for attacking is so absurd, it isn't even funny - that would be giving you're opponent a massive advantage.
The people making negative comments about what Borroughs said are probably general PSU fans who know little about wrestling.
Would that include Bo Nickal?
I’ve read your additional edits and I think you’re right. We’re reading something into Burroughs statement that he really didn’t say. However, I think we both agree that he should have exercised some discretion about the topic. There are probably a lot of Carter fans who don’t post here that are reading a malicious intent into what Burroughs said.
“It really starts with the coaches,” Starocci said. “This morning I was a little heavy and a little more than I wanted to be. And Coach Cael was right there riding the bike with me. Just looking around, all the other guys warming up, their coaches are on their phones. I’m like, this dude is in the foxhole with us. I think that means more than anything.”Article on Carter and Brooks.
Penn State's Carter Starocci, Aaron Brooks become 4-time NCAA wrestling champs
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The only thing slowing down Carter Starocci’s pursuit of wrestling glory was an ailing knee and some blood on his opponent’s face, and he left Aaron Brooks no choice but to follow his Penn State teammate into the history books. Starocci won his fourth NCAA titletriblive.com
Exactly. You could hear JB chuckle immediately after saying it and then he said “On a serious note, Carter Starocci has had a phenomenal career. He belongs on the Mt Rushmore for the Nittany Lions.” Nickal and others are making a mountain out of a molehill.He made several comments the first IMO was tongue in cheek And sort of funny. The 2nd comment he said he would go for his leg if they wrestled at the trials.( to be honest everyone would they just wouldn’t say it.
i wasn’t outraged at all by it.
I rewatched it earlier and thought the same.Exactly. You could hear JB chuckle immediately after saying it and then he said “On a serious note, Carter Starocci has had a phenomenal career. He belongs on the Mt Rushmore for the Nittany Lions.” Nickal and others are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Thank you to the greatest fans in the world! The support for our son has been amazing! We truly appreciate PSU nation! How cool
Was that to witness the GREATEST WRESTLING TEAM IN NCAA HISTORY!! So awesome. Thank you!!
We are and Christ reigns. I am very impressed with you and your wife. You raised a true warrior with the spirit of David. God blessThank you to the greatest fans in the world! The support for our son has been amazing! We truly appreciate PSU nation! How cool
Was that to witness the GREATEST WRESTLING TEAM IN NCAA HISTORY!! So awesome. Thank you!!
Right on! Consider statement “I shot the clerk” … 😉Language is a complicated thing. Consider the statement "Charlie stole a car"". On paper, it's a simple assertion of fact. …
I really can't see how Carter will be able to cut down to 74 kg (162.8 lb.) and still be at the top of his game. I imagine Carter routinely walks around in the 185 range. That is going to be a brutal cut.“It really starts with the coaches,” Starocci said. “This morning I was a little heavy and a little more than I wanted to be. And Coach Cael was right there riding the bike with me. Just looking around, all the other guys warming up, their coaches are on their phones. I’m like, this dude is in the foxhole with us. I think that means more than anything.”
But he doesn't have to cut to that every weekend. Just a few times.I really can't see how Carter will be able to cut down to 74 kg (162.8 lb.) and still be at the top of his game. I imagine Carter routinely walks around in the 185 range. That is going to be a brutal cut.
Only 2, same guy -- 141 McNeil forfeited out after losing to Beau in the semis.I wasn't watching too closely, but we're there any MFFs in the medal round? Seems like there is always a few.
Not forfeits but didn’t Lovett do the semi slide as well?Only 2, same guy -- 141 McNeil forfeited out after losing to Beau in the semis.
Separately: Andonian got pinned in his last 3 matches (Levi, Shapiro, Kellar). Ouch.
Well Bo Nickal knows a little something about wrestling and he made it clear he didn’t appreciate Burroughs’ comments.Carter's fans??? Really? Big fan of Carter and I find nothing wrong with what Borroughs said. Carter has less mobility on that leg, so of course you're going to attack that leg. How precisely do you get a TD without attacking one of the legs? Just because you're attacking a leg to try to get a TD and score, does not mean you're trying to re-injure the leg. To suggest that an opponent should consider an injured leg "off limits" for attacking is so absurd, it isn't even funny - that would be giving you're opponent a massive advantage.
The people making negative comments about what Borroughs said are probably general PSU fans who know little about wrestling.
Not forfeits but didn’t Lovett do the semi slide as well?
That is rough about Andonian! I didn’t realize that so thanks for pointing it out. Tough way to finish the tournament
I did see that about Andonian. Still not bad for a 12 seed. And he had a knee (I think) injury that kept him out a while. He gave Levi a pretty good match.Only 2, same guy -- 141 McNeil forfeited out after losing to Beau in the semis.
Separately: Andonian got pinned in his last 3 matches (Levi, Shapiro, Kellar). Ouch.
...and I don't care who you are, you do NOT want Bo freaking Nickal on your bad side 😂😂😂😂😂😂Well Bo Nickal knows a little something about wrestling and he made it clear he didn’t appreciate Burroughs’ comments.
The fans didn't turn against OSU. They turned against Fix.SIAP. John Smith interview after nationals. I'm a little surprised at how much he talked about the fans "turning against us" during the Fix/Vito match. Implies that the crowd forced the ref to make a bull s#!+ stall call.