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They only care about ratings. They either push wrestling or some to get people to watch ESPN over the Basketball Tournament. It’s either push wrestling or out bid everyone for the TV rights to Basketball.
One if you want to count Ty Eise who transferred to Gilroy this year.
Iowa jock sniffers still denying reality ... Lol
Cael absolutely runs the program.
Brands bozos absolutely do NOT run the program.
Cael absolutely runs the program.
Brands bozos absolutely do NOT run the program.
Starocci and MM trolled Ferrari by standing right in front of him during the 197 final.
I missed his transfer, thought he was from Colorado which is in Nebraska's natural recruiting territory.
Appreciate the update. Always good to have better info.
Does anyone know of a site where I can find the 10 podium pics from last night?
Or .... it was all part of the WWE show that ESPN was complicit in. I keep hoping my distaste with the last match will go away, but the stink remains. It was just contrived and ridiculous.
Here is one problem with that. There is already a shortage of referees. Unless the panel of 3 is made up of non refs. I still question the potential for bias.
I felt the same way immediately. All of the pieces / elements are there ... Gable w/ WWE background, his antics upon Wyatt entering, Wyatt's background, the need / desire to put that match last, Trump w/ Wyatt and "Captain America" (this isn't a political comment, just the observation).
It's right from WWE / Disney / Hollywood. (Like a Rocky movie ... you know, even Philadelphia as the setting).
Folk needs to do something about their Officiating and the ridiculous way they call and, more particularly, DON'T CALL passivity and stalling. Mat Officials inject themselves every bit as much as the broadcasters by literary rewarding stalling strategies with some wrestlers for the entire match and then in some matches completely changing their criteria for stalling within the same match and make ridiculous calls at the end. It's absurd and Folk wrestling will not become more popular until "action" is rewarded to the CORRECT wrestler in the form of points and wins.
One Official yesterday, literally said "we need action" the entire time wrestlers were on their feet - this is supposedly done to create more action by creating fear in the more passive wrestler their going to be called for stalling. This has the effect of "the boy who called wolf" when you do it on a constant basis and the wrestlers simply tune you out. If you're saying "I need action" repeatedly the entire time, there is stalling going on and your warnings are clearly being ignored.
Folk needs to make "stall warnings" verbal (i.e., red, you need offensive activity now) - and if the Official proceeds to call Stalling by raising his fist, it should be a point. Folk also needs to create a rule that if one wrestler makes three consecutive attacks and the other wrestler stalemates all three attacks, it's an automatic point for the aggressor.
Yeppers. His face at the end while sitting on the mat showed everything. Pure disbelief.
I had Ohio State guys behind me whining and calling for stalling point against Beau when he was pushing Mendez out of bounds in the ride-outs, only to completely shut up when Mendez did the same thing ... It was so funny ...
And I'd have no problem if the refs would call stalling in that situation, just has to be the same ..
And I'd have no problem if the refs would call stalling in that situation, just has to be the same ..
I described last night to my father, who does not follow wrestling at all and as I had given all the backgrounds and was wrapping it up I said oh my, I just described a WWE promotion didn’t I? 😅
Not saying you’re wrong, you’re not, in that coaches have this line they must use when it comes to awareness re: tampering.
I do think Cael can get a benefit of the doubt on Max when he lost a year of wrestling already, which clearly put him on edge, and then Cael had a placer returning. One thing if Buchanon came when Jacob Warner was already in house, but another when you realize that they have no 197 sans Buchanon (and don’t give me Glazier).
At that point, Beard could well have been the better 197 in the first place.
Yes, but what happened was a massive influx of portal wrestlers between OK State and Iowa. So, in all reality, the margin may have been even bigger this year, and probably was. Put those portal wrestlers on their original teams and it's an absolute massacre.
To me this is the same as those who are bitching and moaning because "only two PSU guys outperformed their seeds". Well, duh. Of course that's true when 8 of your 10 guys are top 3 seeds and when 6 of them are top 2 seeds. It's kind of hard to outperform their seeds when they're at or very near the top of the mountain. You could have arbitrarily given each of them a 6, 7 or 8 seed and all 10 would have outperformed their seeds. It's also kind of like saying, so and so has only won 5 of his 20 games against top 5 opponents. Well, duh. That's true of basically every coach on the planet.
Body of work was one of the criteria until 2022. Before that it was:
Formerly, the trophy was awarded based on seven criteria:
- Record
- Number of pins
- Dominance
- Past credentials
- Quality of competition
- Sportsmanship/Citizenship
- Heart
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Three times actually. 2 to Anthony Cassar and one to Wyatt Hendrickson.But we've seen Gable lose before. Twice even.
They eliminated Heart as a criterion after Roger Fisher, Steve Fossen, Michael Derosier, Ann Wilson and Nancy Wilson all had won the award. Deemed too unfair.
I also didn’t like the immediate back patting the ESPN crew gave themselves following the match
21 minutes? I think I will pass.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but no freshman won their 1st, no sophomore won their second and no junior won their 3rd. So there is currently no one enrolled on their way to possibly a 4th title at this time; any such contender has to win their first as a freshman next year.
That was not a Hawkeye thing at 197. That was a Slumlord Bob mercenary
If you want to start that, it can be said for the following in the finals:
125: Spratley
165: MM and Caliendo
174: Hamiti
197: Buchanan
HWT: Hendrickson
Like it or not, the transfer portal is here to stay. Teams will hate it when other teams are benefiting from it and love it when they are the beneficiaries. I prefer to take it for what it is, and refer to the athletes by the singlet they are wearing currently.
So true. It used to be that not even the entirety of each match in the finals were shown. The available coverage we have now is awesome.
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To have four guys who placed second or third be within two points of the scoring for a national champion with no bonus points is so impressive. Also, absent Greg's injury Penn State would have had every wrestler score at least 13 points in the tournament. That is one talented team top to bottom.
"Guys finishing third, there's a lot of honor in that." I love that statement by Cael. Having five of our wrestlers finishing third and one finishing fifth is a great testament to the coaching staff. The backside run of the team was so impressive!
Big differences between the first 3 and the last 3. Spratley and Mesenbrink both left with 4 yrs of eligibility remaining. Caliendo left with 3 yrs remaining, and his head coach at ND State had left for a new job. They weren't mercenaries.
The transfers are what they are. I don't mind the freedom of movement for the athletes. Annual poaching is a poor long-term strategy for the teams.
For the least amount of losses for a Penn State wrestler in their first two years, Mitchell is tied with David Taylor at one loss. If he goes undefeated in his last two years he will be the winningest Penn State wrestler ever.
As a team, PSU performed 4 under their seeds, but 3 of those are Kerk, who was re-injured in the semis and defaulted to sixth. The other nine performed one below their seeds in total. Given the high seeds, I have no problem with the performance. Considering the high number of bonus points, they did more than ok.
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