Understood. Maybe I’m misreading the room. I feel like there’s been a lot of crapping on junior. I’m just saying practically any 17-18 year old is flying into the stands to defend their dad in that situation. I’m only talking about the kid.
Anthony Knox and dad drama
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I doubt many of us question what we would have done in that situation. Now, whether we would expect to face zero disciplinary action afterward is the question.
The answer in this case looks a lot like “it depends on whether you are a decorated wrestler . . . and how deep you pockets are.”
Go humans!
Rumor has it that Judge Bartels was kicked out of his checkers club in middle school due to an alleged booger flicking incident. And then he was suspended in high school for smashing an egg on the principal's head to protest the school's refusal to recognize his basement fight club as an officially sanctioned and funded campus sport.
These indignities cut deeply and Bartels swore his revenge (quietly to himself to avoid further discipline). He has now waited nearly 50 years for this opportunity to strike back at the system.
understood as well.
Honestly, the parents should hold him out but having dealt with too many parents, it’s pretty clear that won’t happen. And of course it doesn’t happen if Sr didnt hold his shit together and walk away.
Sheesh. And we used to bitch about Gunning’s dad and his mouth.
I guess my biggest issue are the statements by Anthony. He said he entered the stands to defend his mom and dad, or words to that effect, when the videos clearly showed his mom was trailing him going into the stands and his father was in the process of leaving the stands when Anthony goes to another portion of the stands to start a fight with a student. Anthony's untruthful statements just add another layer of poor behavior to this whole incident.
No matter what happens criminally or suspension-wise, Anthony and his family's reputation have taken a big hit from this incident and it is a great learning lesson for the rest of us to not allow our emotions to get the best of us. Hopefully the high exposure of this incident will keep others from engaging in similar kinds of behavior.
No matter what happens criminally or suspension-wise, Anthony and his family's reputation have taken a big hit from this incident and it is a great learning lesson for the rest of us to not allow our emotions to get the best of us. Hopefully the high exposure of this incident will keep others from engaging in similar kinds of behavior.
I dunno. Kid exercises poor judgment at best and possibly criminal conduct but isn’t held accountable. Seems more likely to encourage this type of behavior than discouraging it.
The problem is that Jr. didn't go into the stands to defend his father - the video very clearly confirms this and the arresting Officer's statement as to what he witnessed matches the video, not what Jr. is claiming. Jr. went into the stands and attacked a juvenile - his dad was leaving a different area of the stands at the same time he was entering.
You don't like tough cursing.
At this point the Knox's have two choices. One is to continue wrestling and become a 4-timer with a huge asterisk next to his name. The other is to remove himself from the tournament, issue a statement of contrition, and be a 3-timer who gains back respect in the process. I am certain the first option will be what prevails. It's very disappointing as an NJ wrestling fan to see how this has played out, a judge who cannot admit fault neutering the NJSIAA going forward. Helicopter parents of NJ HS athletes will run straight to the courts anytime they feel slighted given this precedent.
This isn't the first time of similar situation.
A few years ago Julian Chlebove got himself in trouble(police issue not school related )going into his junior year at Northampton. He was not allowed to wrestle after winning 2 State titles. He tried to transfer to Nazareth /BECA but they would not take him. He didn't compete his junior year. I never found out if the discipline came from Northampton or the Courts.
He probably would have been a 4 timer.
A few years ago Julian Chlebove got himself in trouble(police issue not school related )going into his junior year at Northampton. He was not allowed to wrestle after winning 2 State titles. He tried to transfer to Nazareth /BECA but they would not take him. He didn't compete his junior year. I never found out if the discipline came from Northampton or the Courts.
He probably would have been a 4 timer.
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Hmmmm. Violated the Code of Conduct. Even off School Grounds. BLAM. He still wrestled in college. Wasn’t ruined. Probably got a degree.
Imagine assaulting someone at a scholastic event where the assailant is one of the competitors.
Oh wait….thats why this thread exists. 🤷🏻♂️
One of my HS teammates punched another wrestler on the mat, durring their match. It was retaliation for a flagrant below the belt offense allegedly involving teeth.
No matter, PIAA suspended him for a couple weeks.
He obviously didn't have Knox's parents, attorney, or judge.
Wasn't a lewisburg match was it lol. I remember a kid from lewisburg high school threw a punch during a match back in the 90s I believe
I've attended "defense attorney association" events with my wife (attorney). These events are essentially galas where they like to pat each other on the back and give each other awards. This past month, the guest of honor was a judge who everybdoy seemed to know and like. The entire spectacle was disgusting.
Judges attend attorney christmas parties, etc. A high priced attorney from out of town is no match for the country bumpkin attorney who knows the judge's middle name.
Of course. Before they were judges, they were common attorneys. Some of my wife's friends are now judges. I have a very hard time getting past the obvious conflicts of interest that the legal community doesn't even try to hide.
No. Wrong school and year. It was another D4 school.
I'm not going deeper than that, because my teammate's brother has been here occasionally in the past.
Translated: if he had been suspended, then he would've had charges waived as "time served."
Pat has a point, just not the one he thinks he's making. The kid who finished 4th would've been suspended AND charged.
Meanwhile in PA: PIAA disqualified both teams from the playoffs.
Brawl at PA high school boys basketball playoff game leads to PIAA ruling double forfeit
PIAA hands down sanctions Monday for both teams after Friday's PIAA basketball playoff game was suspended due to a fan fight that also involved players.
www.phillyburbs.com
District 10 baby!Meanwhile in PA: PIAA disqualified both teams from the playoffs.
Brawl at PA high school boys basketball playoff game leads to PIAA ruling double forfeit
PIAA hands down sanctions Monday for both teams after Friday's PIAA basketball playoff game was suspended due to a fan fight that also involved players.www.phillyburbs.com
If his mom was being verbally abused, he could have gone into the stands to defend her, regardless of where she was standing.
No he couldn't. The NJSIAA rules don't say "except if you mom is being harassed, then knock yourself out."
Wasn't that his mom chasing Jr to keep him out of the stands? That would pretty much throw any protection of mom out the window.
Except for @86PSUPaul, who fights with wrestling moms.
I am a lover not a fighter! No wrestling moms were hurt on my watch.
I think it was her dissatisfaction with you that triggered her. You need to strive to improve her satisfaction.
I agree that a case could be made that she was unsatisfied with my performance. But hey, I was happy, that’s what matters most, right?
Didn't he know he would have an unfair advantage if he got in a fight?
We didn't say you fought well.
We need to cut Jr a break here. I mean after all, its not like he cracked somebody's head open with a relay baton or anything.
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