And why the hell not? That's your only job on here mister! To be in-the-know.
I'm about as far removed from "the know" as one can be. Maybe Spyker can put in a good word for me in his next email to Cael.
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Bo Moving Up?
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I'm about as far removed from "the know" as one can be. Maybe Spyker can put in a good word for me in his next email to Cael.
I've heard to not 100% rule out a 174 Mouse. It would be interesting. He last wrestled below 182 as a HS SO (6 yrs ago). That makes me somewhat skeptical. But never say never, I guess.
He would need to shed 10 lb of largely muscle during an offseason in which he'd likely be trying to strengthen his back.
It's also unclear if it would help his performance. If he can handle the cut, he'd have a strength advantage and a quickness disadvantage. Hard to say if that's a net positive or negative.
He would need to shed 10 lb of largely muscle during an offseason in which he'd likely be trying to strengthen his back.
It's also unclear if it would help his performance. If he can handle the cut, he'd have a strength advantage and a quickness disadvantage. Hard to say if that's a net positive or negative.
You might see if you can go to the post and de-select the Report button.
Or, perhaps go to edit mode to see if you can do it there.
Iirc, it is a reversible option.
Who bothered BO at 86 kg in FS not named Zahid Valencia? Nickal would be fine at 184lbs
Lost by tech fall to Kevin Steinhaus and by fall to Nick Heflin at the last chance event.
He had a couple of nice wins at that tournament too, so I'm not sure those losses prove he has problems with bigger opponents.
I remember thinking he looked particularly small against Kevin Steinhaus at the last chance Olympic trial qualifier. I think he lost to Nick Heflin there too but I didn't see that.
That's right, I think they're both out of eligibility. Also, BO will get bigger if going at that weight and not be wrestling up like he did for that event. I forget what he weighed in there, but wasn't a full 86 kgs I promise
Just to be clear I'm not doubting his ability. He's my favorite guy on the team to watch, and seems like an unbelievable kid to boot. I even believe that he can take out Gabe Dean. But it seems clear that it's going require a bunch of additional pounds from where he was a few months ago and some time to get used to it.
I got you tikk, I didn't take it as that and agree with you about adding to the frame.
Yep. He definitely looked small, but that might as well have been 197. Those guys were probably over 200 by the time they were wrestling
May depend upon whether a student/athlete is enrolled as a full-time student on scholarship.
Wrestling with the NLWC, while not enrolled, would not start the clock.
Not sure on the summer semester but enrollment FULL time is what starts the 5 year clock.
As to Nickal it seems a lot here are treating it as gospel that he is going 184 this season and IMHO it is nothing more than speculation. The OP reported that Bo said he is moving up this year, which is pretty vague. If he meant he was moving up to 184 I would think he would just say that.
Jeremiah Johnson approved lineup. I like it.
Might try to find that movie somewhere this weekend. Love that flick. That's a great semi-smile by JJ.
I'm pretty certain his eligibility clock begins once the wrestling team picks up the tab ... even if it's part -time.
IMO, the only way he could be taking classes and still be eligible for a gray shirt would be if he is enrolled both part-time and paying his own freight.
The 5-year eligibility clock starts the moment a student-athlete starts classes full-time.
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution
As I understand the rules, financial aid is not available until student-athletes spend at least one year in residency at a school. Mark Hall and Nick Suriano, for example, are not yet available for summer term aid.
Summer financial aid may be awarded only to attend the awarding institution’s summer term, summer school or summer-orientation program, provided the following conditions are met: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/10/92)
(a) The student has been in residence a minimum of one term during the regular academic year;
(b) The student is attending a summer term, summer school or summer-orientation program and financial aid is administered pursuant to Bylaw 15.2.8.1.2, 15.2.8.1.3 or 15.2.8.1.4;
The other note re. summer school and financial aid...once a student-athlete is eligible, it can be administered, but only in the same ratio that full-time aid is administered (a .5 ride means half of a summer terms expenses can be paid as financial aid), and that summer-term aid does not count against the 9.9.
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution
As I understand the rules, financial aid is not available until student-athletes spend at least one year in residency at a school. Mark Hall and Nick Suriano, for example, are not yet available for summer term aid.
Summer financial aid may be awarded only to attend the awarding institution’s summer term, summer school or summer-orientation program, provided the following conditions are met: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/10/92)
(a) The student has been in residence a minimum of one term during the regular academic year;
(b) The student is attending a summer term, summer school or summer-orientation program and financial aid is administered pursuant to Bylaw 15.2.8.1.2, 15.2.8.1.3 or 15.2.8.1.4;
The other note re. summer school and financial aid...once a student-athlete is eligible, it can be administered, but only in the same ratio that full-time aid is administered (a .5 ride means half of a summer terms expenses can be paid as financial aid), and that summer-term aid does not count against the 9.9.
Student athletes to be eligible for scholarship $$ during the summer term is 6 hours according to the NCCAs rules.
I don't know the article or rule number, I just know several D1 wrestlers who have attended summer term at different D1 schools straight out of HS and in order for them to receive their scholarship $$, they had to take a minimum of 6 hours.
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I'm a 3x tOSU grad and homer....but even I would not rank Martin higher than Nickal. Bo Nickal would probably win 8-9 out of 10 head to head. Even Martin stated Bo Nickal is the toughest opponent he ever wrestled. I dont think one Martin win (albeit on the huge stage) puts him above Nickal in any logical ranking system.
As a fan of the sport, I was really interested in a Bo J. vs. Bo N. matchup. But, a Bo Jordan vs Mark Hall 3 times next year also sounds very interesting.
So they'll take the hole at 165 instead of 18
Edit: Not a "hole" but Tan Man has three weights and two AA wrestlers, a choice needs made.
I literally do not know, or even feel like I can predict, what will happen at 174, but of all the possibilites, the least likely scenario, I think, would be Mouse pulling down. Can't see it. I think if he wants to give 197 a shot, if Cassar cannot go, then that's the road more likely to take for a final year of action for Mouse. If not, then he is still a vital, important part of the team, just like all the other fellas. Sometimes it doesn't work out for the final year dream-scenario: Just last year the kid from Juniata high school, was on the team and an important member, but didn't figure into the medal stand come March, while he certainly DID have that shot, earlier in his career. Mouse is the man, and is a true Penn State winner and medal stand champion, whether he is one of the 10 guys we take into the B1G's this March, or not.
Bo decided to move up to help his freestyle career. He decided on what's best for Bo. That doesn't mean he gets the position. He still has to beat out Cutch for the spot. That's not going to be a given. If he loses he will have the option to go to 97 if he still feels he wants to wrestle heavier guys for freestyle. If not then he will have to cut back down to 74. Which he has another problem on his hands beating Rasheed. The result of this decision is going to be very interesting and could leave a top performer on the sideline.
So, you are saying Rasheed is going at 174 this season?
Seems possible but unlikely to me: He could not pull to 65 last year, and has added a ton of pure muscle mass now. If anything, he's headed to 197 right?
Sheez, what is so WRONG with just saying "Hey Man, I hope Mark Hall goes at 174 because he is an awesome wrestler and if he goes, we have an even better team!" I know, I know, that's just not the right thing to say, lmao. Of course, I want Rasheed to go JUST AS MUCH....dunno, its all good.
Well, then WHOOP there it is!
Rasheed vs BoJo, vs Meyer, vs Valencia, etc....174 is going to be a merry go round, where it stops nobody knows this year!
If "nothing is in stone" for us, that would presumably include Hall's redshirt?
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