Cody Chittum Flips Commitment From Iowa
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I always took you for the common sense stance. Wasn't ever sure which team you leaned towards. That's a good thing in my book. And just to put this out there a troll on message boards means someone who opposes your point of view which is sad just because someone doesn't agree with me doesn't make them or I a troll.
Aesop's fable, "The Fox and the Grapes." Very old, dare I say ancient. You can Google and read it. Aesop's Fables are public domain these days.
Thanks. But I'm asking because I've read that saying on hr and this board like a thousand times this week. Sour grapes. Kind of like gas lighting lmfao.
I thought a troll was more a poster who says things to elicit an emotional reaction, without any intention for sincere dialog, and not necessarily believing what he writes. It seems akin to 'edge-lording' in some respects.
I admit if someone 'comes at me' on a board then I will give it back to them in spades. Probably not the optimal Buddhist approach, but it seems to be an accepted norm. I don't see this as trolling.
I also admit that if someone posts something factually incorrect that is detrimental about PSU, I won't hesitate to correct them, depending on my mood. Again, not trolling.
Lastly, if somebody turns an odd phrase, has a humorous typo, or makes a weird take, I do post in a light-hearted way that most seem to understand not to take too seriously. Still some get upset. Again, I don't think this kind of post is trolling.
It is funny that a PSU poster claimed me a troll for posts on GIA. That's pretty whacky. Definitely would be considered avante-gard trolling, if it were trolling.
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I don't think you're a troll either. I just think you're giving the benefit of the doubt and defending someone that has earned the opposite. Bob has a long history of bad behavior. After all, you get what you earn.
I agree a troll is someone who tries to elicit a particular response but I think trolling as now come to be for most just someone who disagrees. I miss the open debates and conversation with people I disagree with. At least we used to walk away still respecting the person. Not so much anymore
Gas lighting is much newer. People seem to like to characterize things in terse tried and true ways as a shortcut. Plenty of characterizations are derived from the morals of Aesop's Fables. You might want to find and read them all.
"Sounds like sour grapes to me." is one of the most common derivations. Saying "Iowa didn't want Cody Chittum." after he already left for ISU would be the most recent example of a "sour grapes" take.
I understand this take. I followed the recent fiasco as it unfolded. Early on I thought GIA might police itself. But then the rhetoric escalated. I saw Willie's and Mineo's Tweets shortly after they were issued.
I've previously looked into the property management takes. I directly addressed to Bob my take on the continued use of "Ped State" or equivalent in posts.
And yet somehow, don't ask me how, I still just don't see where he needs to be either lionized or demonized. I don't look to other men for perfection or some ideal.
To me he's just a man, who happens to have a good bit of money that he uses to support his alma mater and its wrestling team. To me he's just a man, who also happens to be willing to engage in a gutter-type street fight (as far as that extends to GIA posting) whenever he feels he or his alma mater is being provoked.
If someone put my worst moments or words on public display, I am sure the court of public opinion would have a field day with it.
Let's be better than accusing anyone of pedophilia without actual pedophilia.
Just because he routinely goes low doesn't mean we have to race him to the bottom.
This off-season is crazier than a Desanto kimura.
Actually it is not. Sour Grapes has been around for many, many years. So much so that most of the people I know that are over 20 years old instantly recognizes the term/saying.
I understand that I was just mentioning it seemed to take off this week in several threads lol. Not a bad thing just sounds like a new thing 🤣
I get it. Another word or phrase that is used on this forum with a fair amount of regularity, that I don't hear often otherwise is the word disingenuous or the phrase "you are being disingenuous"
Well, it is more polite than calling someone a "lying sack of shit."
#PromoteBoardCivility
bnicolls is not going to **** you
Just messing with you - it’s a funny social media retort when someone is defending another.
As long as you don't rent from him.
Yeah, I get what you are saying. I hate it when certain congress people label everybody they do not like as pedophiles completely dismissing the idea that they are eliminating the edge to the word by normalizing it with overuse. However, I am curious to his feelings if someone were to make him aware he has been tagged with the label.
Bob runs a big corporation, which is beholden to shareholder value not common decency or compassion, which normal people like you extend to others.
Sorry, I missed a couple days if discussion. Did Slumlord Millionaire try to walk back his comment by saying it was a common saying in 70s skibum culture? And that somehow didn’t make it grossly misogynistic? Yikes. I don’t know about the 70s, but I’ve seen that exact saying from incel manosphere types on right wing forums, and it was definitely intended to be misogynistic.
Monarch Investment Group is privately held. Nicolls is the owner, singular.
Some good advice I once received. If you hurt someone privately, apologize privately. If you hurt someone publicly, apologize publicly.
Since Bob did this publicly, Bob should make a post apologizing, not reasoning or justifying the “joke”. Apologize and move forward.
I like your advice.
Early enough on, some GIA poster suggested some kind of apology. From what he writes, I conclude he doesn't see why he should apologize, publicly, if at all. From other exchanges, including Willie's and Mineo's Twitter posts, I don't see him as generally being the type to be responsive to pressure to apologize.
I believe being able to apologize well takes practice. And there's little chance of giving a good apology, public or private, that is not heartfelt.
Bob is not the type to apologize. He is the type to spit stupid, spiteful, hurtful bullshyt and then if necessary spin some more stupid shyt to rationalize and/or legitimize the original content. He is a man who has found financial success, but has not found his honor and for whatever reason remains a very spiteful little man. He has so little respect for himself he can not find any respect for others.
I don’t expect him to apologize in any meaningful way.
This situation could be resolved easily. Bob obviously has money and donates to wrestling. I’d just say my comment was I’ll advised, apologize, and make a donation to USA Women’s wrestling and move on.
This situation could be resolved easily. Bob obviously has money and donates to wrestling. I’d just say my comment was I’ll advised, apologize, and make a donation to USA Women’s wrestling and move on.
Bob doubled down on saying it’s “just a joke”.
And you act like I don’t talk to Alli.
Thanks tho.
Double down? How many Tweets have you deleted over the years? Lmao
(BTW am not defending Bob in any way)
Speaking of Bob, What about Bob is an underated Flick. Great acting.
He always maintained it was a joke, and still maintains it. Yes. You can read all my posts here and on GIA, and see why I think his joke was ill-advised.
I don't act any way under any assumption regarding your relationship to anybody including Alli.
I saw you replied to Alli's Tweet to her in-law. This gives an appearance you interjected yourself into their family business. I could assume you follow her. But that's about as far as I'd go, if I bothered to think about it.
You're welcome, I guess.
If you want to say you called Alli, you briefed her about the posts on GIA, you sent her a link, you asked her whether she wanted you to flag it for a broader audience to see beyond WIllie and the number of views of that thread, that she said yes and please also do a little character assassination of Bob Nicholls while your at it, and you honored her request (or something like that), then you can just post that here or better yet Tweet that publicly at Helen.
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Here's are the main posts in question, of which there is no question. You can also view them at:https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/terry-gone-also.418750/#post-11187984
Posts #20, 21, and 22.
UndercoverHawk
She’s a skank
bnicolls
The ole line in ski area towns is, "You don't lose your girlfriend, just your turn"
I don’t know how one looks at that line is posting and buys that he wasn’t referring directly to Ragan.
Just wait for the brilliant spin. We may even get a fable. 🙏
Yes he did lol it was directly on the thread digging her. Cmon. One big drag of her…. Funny more concerned about semantics than the slumlord Bob who is a bad person and does and says what he wants getting his name on a wrestling building because of money, not character. Bad optics imo
What? I said he doubled down and basically said he doesn’t care cuz it was a joke, and didn’t apologize. Not a good person to have your wrestling room named after. Not to mention his slumlord eviction record.
As far as Alli, I was vocal back in 2020 over the HWC stuff and her and her Dad were very appreciative too during that time. They cut their funding, etc then lied about it. Her Dad also reached out and supported me airing this a-hole out, imagine if that was your daughter? He doesn’t have to imagine, it is his and he knows Bob is a punk! Weird to divert to me…
As far as Helen, I love her. She’s the Queen. She was clearly asked by Clarissa or Brands or even Nicholls himself to send that tweet- which tagged the wrong person cuz she doesn’t even know who I am most likely. Was just told what to say and why- since the program is under fire, After the responses and facts she then backtracked a bit. You don’t really believe she woke up and tweeted that on her own do you?
Again, If Alli- who I have spoken to multiples times in recent weeks messaged me to take it down, I would. But she commented agreeing that the Iowa people were scum.
Stop diverting and realize a bad person is being honored at the Iowa wrestling room and his comments are repugnant towards someone who has done a lot for our sport.
Sorry that a bad person who has big ties to iowa wrestling was exposed?
I still think he was trying something with Vito’s arm in frustration. I’ve never seen that before in freestyle
