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Gonna hurt more next year after another loss with those comments.. can't wait to be double digit underdog and then ruin your season again with Big road win.
 
Gonna hurt more next year after another loss with those comments.. can't wait to be double digit underdog and then ruin your season again with Big road win.

B1G Champs, Rose bowl and 11 wins, yep. Definitely ruined...

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Gonna hurt more next year after another loss with those comments.. can't wait to be double digit underdog and then ruin your season again with Big road win.

It's gonna hurt more next year when PSU wins by 4 Touchdowns just like they are supposed to. Can't wait to be double digit favorites and then ruin your season with a an expected home win.
 
Gonna hurt more next year after another loss with those comments.. can't wait to be double digit underdog and then ruin your season again with Big road win.

The fact you even think Pitt will be in the game is funny. Pitt's going to have a very long year.
 
Okay, you don’t know much about Northwestern if you think simply saying they were 6-6 is stating that’s a bad team. They lost 2 games they shouldn’t have early in the season. Thorson improved significantly as the year went on. Justin Jackson and Anthony Walker Jr are two of the best players at their respective positions. Austin Carr always finds a way to get open. Northwestern played very well against Nebraska, Ohio State & Wisconsin. The Minnesota loss was bad though. Losing a meaningless bowl game to another well-coached team is hardly a negative.

Giving up 61 to Syracuse is unacceptable and Pitt is still a work in process. We all know that. Being unable to give Narduzzi credit though is just kind of pathetic. They beat 2 teams that finished in the top 5 including the fact they were the only team to knock of Clemson. They should have beat UNC this year. People should allow coaches time to develop and build their teams. Just like people trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were being irrational. Not comprehending that Narduzzi has Pitt on a good path is just ignorant. He probably won’t be at Pitt all that long but he’s doing a good job. Just because we don’t like Pitt doesn’t mean you can’t accurately evaluate them.

Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.
 
People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win.

You really are dumb as shit. Franklin's fourth year at Penn State is next season. GFY.
 
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Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.
Spin it however you want, it was irrational. After what the university went through, to expect more than Franklin did up to that point was irrational and dumb.
 
Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.

You must be a huge fan thinking last year was Franklin's 4th yr
 
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You must be a huge fan thinking last year was Franklin's 4th yr
Maybe that's why he was trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game, he was thinking it was his fourth year...that's the only thing that would make sense.
 
Maybe that's why he was trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game, he was thinking it was his fourth year...that's the only thing that would make sense.

Cosmos couldn't force out an intelligent sentence.
 
Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.
Good Grief

Less stupid,please
 
Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.
Sure they were irrational, but they can't admit it. They were either too dumb to see where the roster was at the previous 2 years or not patient enough to let Franklin do his thing. The irrational fans come out after every little bump in the road and flap those arms....and then say...OOOOPS...glad I was wrong later. If they still can't admit it, they are both irrational and stupid I guess.
 
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Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.

You mean like just a week or two ago when you had a thread criticizing Franklin deleted? Maybe you should take some of your own advice and go root for pitt.
 
Please. You guys were so overrated. Your conference was garbage and you played a weak schedule.
Outside of Ohio state what big win did you have? Don't even say Wisconsin. They played no one, and They almost beat you with a back up.

You guys think you are a lot better than you are.


Actually, it would appear when you finish in the top 10 nationally and in the top 5 in most pre season polls, it must be a few more folks ("over rating") PSU than just "us guys." It would appear everyone is "over rating" PSU except Pitt Fans. They apparently have a better perspective from where they stand at #35.LOL
 
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I enjoy the back and forth banter between Pitt and Penn State fans. It is very amusing. There is so much hatred there which is necessary for a good rivalry. Sometimes that hatred leads to irrational insults. As much as I hate to acknowledge this Penn Stae had a great year! Not even the loss to Pitt can over shadow that. They caught lightning in a bottle when they beat Ohio State and rolled through the rest of the schedule. Pitt had a decent season that was compromised by a subpar pass defense. Pitt is in a similar position that Penn State was last season. Duzz is going into his third year has some solid pieces coming back on offense but will have a young defense up front but the secondary should be better with a another season of experience. OL won't be as good as last year but there 3 starters and a former starter back. I think Pitt is poised for a similar breakout season like Penn State had this year. Opening up with OK State and Penn State will be difficult though. Obviously, Penn State will be favorite and rightfully so but I expect another physical and passionately played close game. Before the last game all I heard was Penn State was going to blow Pitt out then after the game all I heard was they had the veteran team and was suppose to win. I don't mind the banter between the fans but let's have some rational and honest discussion about both teams.
 
Please. You guys were so overrated. Your conference was garbage and you played a weak schedule.
Outside of Ohio state what big win did you have? Don't even say Wisconsin. They played no one, and They almost beat you with a back up.
You guys think you are a lot better than you are.
You played Villanova for gods sake so just STFU.
 
Good points on NW and Pitt. Bad point on Franklin. People trying to force out Franklin after the Michigan game were not being irrational. Up until then what he was 3 years on the job and not showing any forward progress. He was well into his fourth year before he had his signature win. That's hardly being irrational! Don't look now but the bar is set high. That is to say, the standard is where it should be. Let's hope Franklin can keep it up lest the "irrational" among us come back out... in droves. That's what happens when you have high standards. If you can't handle the heat then go root for Pitt. I thank you.
Look the Franklin hater is back - I bet he could win the MNC and you would still bitch at something.
 
Gonna hurt more next year after another loss with those comments.. can't wait to be double digit underdog and then ruin your season again with Big road win.

I'm confused. Why would Pitt be double digit underdogs? You are far better coached, have the superior program, only recruit kids of character, and signed Paris Ford. Surely Vegas knows this. Pitt should be 9-digit favorite.
 
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Before the last game all I heard was Penn State was going to blow Pitt out then after the game all I heard was they had the veteran team and was suppose to win.

Well then you obviously hear only what you want to, because most were saying PSU should win a close game, but if Pitt had any chance to steal one in the series, it was 2016. That's exactly what happened, PSU should have won, but handed the game to Pitt twice in the final two minutes. Oh well, the PSU season was pure magic, I'm sorry you will never know how good it felt.
 
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How did Pitt "steal one" when they were favored to win?

Well then you obviously hear only what you want to, because most were saying PSU should win a close game, but if Pitt had any chance to steal one in the series, it was 2016. That's exactly what happened, PSU should have won, but handed the game to Pitt twice in the final two minutes. Oh well, the PSU season was pure magic, I'm sorry you will never know how good it felt.
 
Stil having trouble accepting that loss. Let it go, you had a great year.

Still having trouble accepting 8-5, a bowl loss to 6-6 NW, and finishing the season unranked? Still pathetically clinging to a lucky early season win? Let it go, it's only going to get worse next year.
 
I enjoy the back and forth banter between Pitt and Penn State fans. It is very amusing. There is so much hatred there which is necessary for a good rivalry. Sometimes that hatred leads to irrational insults. As much as I hate to acknowledge this Penn Stae had a great year! Not even the loss to Pitt can over shadow that. They caught lightning in a bottle when they beat Ohio State and rolled through the rest of the schedule. Pitt had a decent season that was compromised by a subpar pass defense. Pitt is in a similar position that Penn State was last season. Duzz is going into his third year has some solid pieces coming back on offense but will have a young defense up front but the secondary should be better with a another season of experience. OL won't be as good as last year but there 3 starters and a former starter back. I think Pitt is poised for a similar breakout season like Penn State had this year. Opening up with OK State and Penn State will be difficult though. Obviously, Penn State will be favorite and rightfully so but I expect another physical and passionately played close game. Before the last game all I heard was Penn State was going to blow Pitt out then after the game all I heard was they had the veteran team and was suppose to win. I don't mind the banter between the fans but let's have some rational and honest discussion about both teams.

I think most felt that last year was Pitt's year in the series, and they even opened as 9 point favorite on the early line games and opened at -6 the week of the game. If people picked us it was homers and little to nobody in the national media. This year I would anticipate the early line to be fairly high like PSU -17 1/2..Whether they could cover is another story
 
He was kicked out for more than that. Would love to see Pitt fans reaction if they kicked a kid out of school and Penn State took him. They are getting very desperate

If a kid that was removed from the Pitt team ended up at PSU you can bet the Lair would be losing their minds and flipping out about how awful PSU is for taking the kid. They give delusional and despicable a whole new meaning on that board.

I have no idea what the specifics were for his departure from Happy Valley, and I don't really care, either. He's not with the team anymore so he can play wherever he wants.

You can also see the delusional minds at work on the Lair criticizing this board for how they say this board is taking the Dylan Rivers news, while they publicly trash any Pittsburgh kid who doesn't pick Pitt.

We won't have to worry much about them coming to State College, though. They can't even get fans to go to the Northside, so they won't be coming to support their team in September, either.
 
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Still having trouble accepting 8-5, a bowl loss to 6-6 NW, and finishing the season unranked? Still pathetically clinging to a lucky early season win? Let it go, it's only going to get worse next year.

Did you see me type anything related 8-5 and a loss NW? I don't dwell on that. What's done is done. Im moving on to next year and looking forward to next years game. According to most PSU fans every Pitt win is a lucky win. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Discrediting Pitt's win over Penn State is a form of denial. No different then Ohio State fan calling Penn State's win a lucky win. A loss is a loss. Move on to 2017.
 
If a kid that was removed from the Pitt team ended up at PSU you can bet the Lair would be losing their minds and flipping out about how awful PSU is for taking the kid. They give delusional and despicable a whole new meaning on that board.

I have no idea what the specifics were for his departure from Happy Valley, and I don't really care, either. He's not with the team anymore so he can play wherever he wants.

You can also see the delusional minds at work on the Lair criticizing this board for how they say this board is taking the Dylan Rivers news, while they publicly trash any Pittsburgh kid who doesn't pick Pitt.

We won't have to worry much about them coming to State College, though. They can't even get fans to go to the Northside, so they won't be coming to support their team in September, either.

This shit drives me crazy! Every fan base has a group of fan that are too emotionally involved and cross the line by public bashing kids they do not know personally. Anyone that engages in that practice is a jackass and needs to get a life! So Pitt fans and PSU need to stop pointing the finger because I've seen fans on both side public go after kids. This is one of the shameful and disgusting sides of recruiting.
 
I think most felt that last year was Pitt's year in the series, and they even opened as 9 point favorite on the early line games and opened at -6 the week of the game. If people picked us it was homers and little to nobody in the national media. This year I would anticipate the early line to be fairly high like PSU -17 1/2..Whether they could cover is another story

17 1/2 is a huge number. 7 to 10 would be the range I would expect. To your point, who knows if they will cover. I'm hoping for a night game and I would expect a very hostile environment. Conner is gone but Pitt develop some offensive weapons during the season. The question will be can Pitt's defense improve. It can't get any worse!
 
Did you see me type anything related 8-5 and a loss NW? I don't dwell on that. What's done is done. Im moving on to next year and looking forward to next years game. According to most PSU fans every Pitt win is a lucky win. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Discrediting Pitt's win over Penn State is a form of denial. No different then Ohio State fan calling Penn State's win a lucky win. A loss is a loss. Move on to 2017.

It's 2017, stop clinging to the past... its pathetic! You have a 6-6 season to look forward to! Clinging to Pitt's lucky win over PSU is a form of denial of how each team's season actually went. There is a huge difference between Pitt/PSU and OSU/PSU. PSU was dominating Pitt at the of the game and was in position to win and pissed multiple chances away. Pitt was very lucky that #5 dropped the game winning TD, and that #11 ran the wrong route leading to the INT. There was no luck in Penn State's win over OSU, there was 4:38 left and even if they didn't return the blocked FG, PSU is down only 4-7 points.... likely 4 since it was a long FG... and they blocked it. Given how PSU played all season at the end of games, and the prime field position, PSU had them right where they wanted them. OSU still had a chance to win the game, but PSU was dominating them at that point in the game. Like a typical Pitt fan, reality eludes you.

p.s. Not every Pitt win is lucky, Villanova was a pretty solid win.
 
17 1/2 is a huge number. 7 to 10 would be the range I would expect. To your point, who knows if they will cover. I'm hoping for a night game and I would expect a very hostile environment. Conner is gone but Pitt develop some offensive weapons during the season. The question will be can Pitt's defense improve. It can't get any worse!

I'm not a betting man but if I were, I'd find a way to bet you on that line. Unless something happens between now and then like Barkley and/or McSorley getting hurt, that line won't be close to 7 to 10. Pitt with a new QB, new OC, and replacing several o-linemen coupled with the fact that I don't think Franklin will ease up at all spells really bad news for Pitt. Of course it's possible Pitt could win but a PSU win by at least 2+ TDs is much more likely IMHO. PSU is going to be really good next year.
 
So was Clemson. You keep trying to rationalize the loss but I don't care about all of that! All that matters is the final score. Instead of letting it go and celebrating an awesome season you are stuck on the fact that Pitt beat PSU. I was pissed that Pitt lost to NW and I would love to rationalize it but in the end all that matters is the score.
 
I'm not a betting man but if I were, I'd find a way to bet you on that line. Unless something happens between now and then like Barkley and/or McSorley getting hurt, that line won't be close to 7 to 10. Pitt with a new QB, new OC, and replacing several o-linemen coupled with the fact that I don't think Franklin will ease up at all spells really bad news for Pitt. Of course it's possible Pitt could win but a PSU win by at least 2+ TDs is much more likely IMHO. PSU is going to be really good next year.

Pitt will only be replacing 2 linemen and one of the replacements is a former starter that suffered a knee injury. So, essentially 4 starters return. The new OC and QB will definitely be a concern but Duzz is looking to keep most of the key elements of Canada's offense. Pitt won last year with literally no passing game. The passing game will be better than it was last year against PSU and as I said before, the defense can't get any worse. I have no doubt PSU will be good. So you think this game will mean more to Franklin this coming year then last year?
 
I enjoy the back and forth banter between Pitt and Penn State fans. It is very amusing. There is so much hatred there which is necessary for a good rivalry. Sometimes that hatred leads to irrational insults. As much as I hate to acknowledge this Penn Stae had a great year! Not even the loss to Pitt can over shadow that. They caught lightning in a bottle when they beat Ohio State and rolled through the rest of the schedule. Pitt had a decent season that was compromised by a subpar pass defense. Pitt is in a similar position that Penn State was last season. Duzz is going into his third year has some solid pieces coming back on offense but will have a young defense up front but the secondary should be better with a another season of experience. OL won't be as good as last year but there 3 starters and a former starter back. I think Pitt is poised for a similar breakout season like Penn State had this year. Opening up with OK State and Penn State will be difficult though. Obviously, Penn State will be favorite and rightfully so but I expect another physical and passionately played close game. Before the last game all I heard was Penn State was going to blow Pitt out then after the game all I heard was they had the veteran team and was suppose to win. I don't mind the banter between the fans but let's have some rational and honest discussion about both teams.
Pfffffffftttttttttt
 
17 1/2 is a huge number. 7 to 10 would be the range I would expect. To your point, who knows if they will cover. I'm hoping for a night game and I would expect a very hostile environment. Conner is gone but Pitt develop some offensive weapons during the season. The question will be can Pitt's defense improve. It can't get any worse!
If Pitt opened up this past season as a 9 point favorite, PSU will open up as at least a 17 point favorite. And they will cover.
 
Pitt will only be replacing 2 linemen and one of the replacements is a former starter that suffered a knee injury. So, essentially 4 starters return. The new OC and QB will definitely be a concern but Duzz is looking to keep most of the key elements of Canada's offense. Pitt won last year with literally no passing game. The passing game will be better than it was last year against PSU and as I said before, the defense can't get any worse. I have no doubt PSU will be good. So you think this game will mean more to Franklin this coming year then last year?
Penn State had four turnovers on the road and still only lost by three. Cut the turnovers down this year and Penn State wins by three TD's minimum. Gonna get ugly.
 
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