Yes, there are a few truly elite coaches that outplay their talent consistently, but they also recruit “their type of guys” and develop players in the system.
How so?…college football is now a professional sport. Just pay the best players to come to PSU…and get a better coach.
I know he gets a ton of sh*t and deservedly so, but I credit jones for being the only reporter willing to ask the tough questions. I'd like to stay with Franklin, but he needs to start "feeling it" from a pressure standpoint. Tired of the sycophantic reporters, the BS complimentary talk when its clear to the eye our offense sucked all season, regardless of points. The only questions between this year and next year id want to hear asked of Franklin are : how do you finally put together an offensive line that can compete with the best in the big ten and how do you recruit explosive athletes on the outside or game plan better to feature the strengths in your locker room. I hated how proud of the Illinois win Franklin was.
the question was pointless, though. there are zero coaches who would have given a much different answer to that
It is up there with Paterno punting from the 29 yard line vs Michigan in 2007, or O'Brien going for 4th down for no reason vs a bad Indiana team and losing. It was a really awful play call
Yep, you have to think your defense is your best option at that point to stop OSU and get good field position, get a turnover or a score. Offense was not giving you hope.
I dont agree, just because he didn't get the desired response doesn't mean it was pointless. It was a tough question that directly pointed out the terrible results against OSU and unfortunately, I think it needed to be said(not that Franklin doesn't know it). Franklin seems much less firey after these OSU losses these days. No more big speeches about becoming elite.
I don't think any coach would answer that question during a post game press conference. So in that sense it was pointless, because a question about the history of the last 10 years would predictably get sidestepped in that kind of a setting. actually acknowledging that it was a fair question was a lot more than most other coaches would do
Please explain how he’s “coaching in a comfort zone”. I guarantee you that loss yesterday hurt Franklin a hell of a lot more than it did anyone on this board.
it's a little unfair to skip back to the 1970s and 1980s, which is what people are basically comparing with, and forget that the entire 1990s and 2000s were basically at this level of two loss seasons being the norm (actually the 2000s were a bit worse than that)
Let’s face it, our entire existence in the Big 10 (minus a few years) was three and four losses.
I think 2 or 3 losses has been the norm. I think 4 losses is still generally considered a bad season for psu
In the 21 years prior to Franklin, we had 11 seasons with four or more losses.
Read the post. It had nothing to do with wether he was hurt by the loss. It pointed to the fact of wether he is Elite and win National Championships or simply be a 9-3 or 10-2 team. He is comfortable in the fact that no matter which of the above happens he is safe and getting paid.
yeah but four of those are generally considered our worst seasons in history (early 2000s) and three more were under the scandal fallout and sanctions restrictions. None of those were really normal seasons
So what should he be doing to be elite and win national championships that he’s not already doing? It’s not like a coach can just choose to win a NC.
That’s true, but the bottom line is many posters on here remember a past that wasn’t quite what they remember it to be especially since we joined the Big.
I am not sure the past they are remembering existed even before the Big Ten.
From 93-99 Penn State won more games than any other Big ten team.
yet out of all those seasons, really only 1994 would have been up to the standards of some posters on here. most of the others were 9-2 type of deals, or sometimes worse than that
Nope he sure can't, which leads back to my original post of what do you want as a University and a fan base. If he can't do it then is that something that everyone is happy with or is it not. It's all personal preference and what as a fan your content with and what the University is getting what they think they are paying for. Just because I think he is comfortable, does not mean I think he likes losing these games or doesn't care. I just think that at the end of the day he can be hurt and upset with a loss but also be comfortable with how the outcome falls because at this moment the ones that matter are happy with the product their getting that's all.
And other than one year we never really won anything. Not to mention there wasn’t a juggernaut like OSU is today to deal with and Michigan the last two years. We were beating same teams that don’t seem to be good enough wins these days.
yes. often losing to Michigan and a significantly less intimidating version of OSU even in those days
Do you not think he’s trying? Penn State, regardless of who’s coaching, isn’t going to attract the level of talent that a Bama or OSU is.
He has a huge guaranteed contract with zero accountability. Thank Sandy’s incompetency for that!
well who would say no to that deal? we only have the prior psu administration to blame for the inflexibility in the contract
It’s not that “huge” of a contract…he makes less than Mark Stoops. His contract isn’t in the top 10, so why should he be judged equal to those that are?
I think what's huge is the number of years and the out for psu is very expensive
But the flip side is so many on here were complaining about Franklin being mentioned for every job and he made no commitment to stay at PSU….then he signs a long term contract and posters are pissed because we can’t fire him easily.
Not a matter of remembering. PSU had numerous undefeated and untied seasons against much more difficult schedules than this year.
Ridiculous take. Franklin wants it as much or more than anyone associated with the program. Hell he knows that if he's the first black coach to win a title his name goes in the history books, forever, which appears to be a huge personal motivation for him based on his previous comments.
There are $55,000,000 reasons not to dismiss East Stroudsburg Jimmy. Now, if you’d cut a check for that amount, Penn State might agree to cut him loose.
