MFFs did not count as losses then.Pantaleo MFF in 2018.
And that was an MFF, not an injury default.
Here are the 2018 NCAA brackets. Jason's record was 26-1. The 1 was Van Brill.
MFFs did not count as losses then.Pantaleo MFF in 2018.
Season | Class | Record | Falls | TFs | MDs | Conf. Place | NCAA Place |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2015-2016 | 2nd Year Freshman | 33-2 | 15 | 11 | 5 | 2 | 2 |
2016-2017 | 3rd Year Sophomore | 27-0 | 14 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2017-2018 | 4th Year Junior | 26-1 | 16 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 1 |
2018-2019 | 5th Year Senior | 31-0 | 15 | 5 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
Total | 117-3 | 60 | 27 | 16 |
Counting the unattached loss in RS?MFFs did not count as losses then.
And that was an MFF, not an injury default.
Here are the 2018 NCAA brackets. Jason's record was 26-1. The 1 was Van Brill.
The Green loss didn't count either, but if it had, Taylor lost 2x in his shirt year.Counting the unattached loss in RS?
I'm still surprised McKenna gave up his opportunity to get his degree from Stanford.Yep. Right after the putz rode Joey McKenna's horse for a couple of years.
I think he did get his degree from Stanford. Even if he didn’t it doesn’t really matter, his father is loaded. He’s the head guy at Hunter Roberts Construction Goup. I’m sure Joey has a pretty good gig waiting for him when he’s done completingI'm still surprised McKenna gave up his opportunity to get his degree from Stanford.
Y'all sleeping on David Taylor AND Zain? Cray.It's useful to remember that Nolf:
Has four losses, not three like Taylor, but one was due to sloppy officiating that allowed him to be injured.
Has ten more pins than Taylor (60-50)
Has three NC's, not 2.
Was never himself, pinned.
Had he won a 4th NC, there'd be no question he'd have been the best Lion. Similar can be said for Nickal.
In a hypothetical draft of all-timers:
In no order, I'm picking Nolf, Nickal and Boone before Taylor. If Carter gets No. 5, he's the fourth before Taylor.
It would be a toss-up between Taylor and Zain.
He's got a robe that no one can take away from him!Being part of the 2nd best college team ever is more importanter than a Stanford degree.
I myself have a robe no one will take off of me.He's got a robe that no one can take away from him!
2nd best would still be PSU! oh and first as wellBeing part of the 2nd best college team ever is more importanter than a Stanford degree.
Brushing off the Suriano example like it's no big deal is ridiculous. PSU went on a 9 year drought after he left without an All American until Lilledahl this year. That's indisputably one of Cael's rare mistakes. You're losing credibility if you refuse to acknowledge that.Why would it? Cael and staff know what they are doing… name me a time when a guy left and came back to beat the Nits??? Suriano, sure but that was a mess to begin with. Cael plays chess. This was probably in the works and the Nits were shopping.
Zain for me too,the only one on this list to go as a TF.and of course that when his only losses occured. I firmly believe had he shirted first he would have went undefeated.Y'all sleeping on David Taylor AND Zain? Cray.
SmDh
For real though, it's an interesting case.
If you go by career bonus rate, this is really your top 5 in the Cael era
1) Taylor (91)
2) Nolf (86)
3) Nickal (77)
4) Ruth (76)
5) Zain (75)
If you go by bonus rate in their last 3 years, because let's remember Zain took an unbelievable leap offensively after his redshirt...
1) Nolf (96)
2 Taylor (94)
3) Zain (87)
4) Ruth (82)
5) Nickal (80....but Bo had the best pinning percentage)
None of these guys had any truly bad losses. For example, probably the worst loss by any was when Ruth lost to Mike Letts but Letts was a multi AA.
Me personally, I'm taking Zain primarily because I think he's what Iowa wishes they were.
Thank the lordI myself have a robe no one will take off of me.
Brushing off the Suriano example like it's no big deal is ridiculous. PSU went on a 9 year drought after he left without an All American until Lilledahl this year. That's indisputably one of Cael's rare mistakes. You're losing credibility if you refuse to acknowledge that.
I love Cael as much as everyone else, and he's been right 99% of the time, but he still makes mistakes once in a blue moon. He's human.
Suriano was hardly Cael's mistake.Brushing off the Suriano example like it's no big deal is ridiculous. PSU went on a 9 year drought after he left without an All American until Lilledahl this year. That's indisputably one of Cael's rare mistakes. You're losing credibility if you refuse to acknowledge that.
I love Cael as much as everyone else, and he's been right 99% of the time, but he still makes mistakes once in a blue moon. He's human.
Meh. Given Suriano's platinum U-Haul membership, and the snit he threw when Tomasello dared to train at the RTC for a whole week when invited ... he probably wasn't staying at PSU for 4 years.Brushing off the Suriano example like it's no big deal is ridiculous. PSU went on a 9 year drought after he left without an All American until Lilledahl this year. That's indisputably one of Cael's rare mistakes. You're losing credibility if you refuse to acknowledge that.
I love Cael as much as everyone else, and he's been right 99% of the time, but he still makes mistakes once in a blue moon. He's human.
I lost zero sleep over Suriano.Brushing off the Suriano example like it's no big deal is ridiculous. PSU went on a 9 year drought after he left without an All American until Lilledahl this year. That's indisputably one of Cael's rare mistakes. You're losing credibility if you refuse to acknowledge that.
I love Cael as much as everyone else, and he's been right 99% of the time, but he still makes mistakes once in a blue moon. He's human.
Meh. Given Suriano's platinum U-Haul membership, and the snit he threw when Tomasello dared to train at the RTC for a whole week when invited ... he probably wasn't staying at PSU for 4 years.
He wasn't even willing to stay at Arizona State for his last year of competition when already living and training there.Right. The idea that Suriano was going to be Penn State's 125 for four years ignores the reality that he was never going to be anyone's four-year starter, and pretending that that would've been the case if Cael had only done x or y is delusional.
Was wondering what he was up to, I checked out his insta account. One weird dude.Suriano was hardly Cael's mistake.
What were some of the weirdest?Was wondering what he was up to, I checked out his insta account. One weird dude.
He's simply filling a void left after Fellers became persona non grata @Iowa. Capitalizing on an opportunity, is all. Don't hate the paid lover, hate the game.Good lord corby get your nose out if the brands ass for a little bit.
Oooh, what's the goss on Fellers & non grata?He's simply filling a void left after Fellers became persona non grata @Iowa. Capitalizing on an opportunity, is all. Don't hate the paid lover, hate the game.
I forget the details. Quick search yielded bupkis. Maybe just my impression from various podcast appearances, and later conspicuous absence.Oooh, what's the goss on Fellers & non grata?
I believe it had to do with Chittum leaving Iowa and going to ISU.I forget the details. Quick search yielded bupkis. Maybe just my impression from various podcast appearances, and later conspicuous absence.
For some reason I think it has to so with another donor's influence and his repeated harping on Brands not evolving their mindset and training approach.
Or maybe I imagined it all.
How did that Chittum move affect Fellers and how his status changed from persona grata to non, vis a vis the Iowa program?I believe it had to do with Chittum leaving Iowa and going to ISU.
Which related to bringing in Ferraris, which related to certain donor influence?I believe it had to do with Chittum leaving Iowa and going to ISU.
Public repeated criticism of the decision to bring in the Ferraris, I would suppose. Coming to the realization of irreconcilable differences of value systems between himself and those who decided to bring in the Ferraris.How did that Chittum move affect Fellers and how his status change from persona grata to non, vis a vis the Iowa program?
Perfect, thank you. Have another lunch on me homie!Public repeated criticism of the decision to bring in the Ferraris, I would suppose. Coming to the realization of irreconcilable differences of value systems between himself and those who decided to bring in the Ferraris.
Chittum's public reason was Anthony Ferrari's arrival, given an alleged knife assault in HS.
How did that Chittum move affect Fellers and how his status changed from persona grata to non, vis a vis the Iowa program?
thx!
Skip to 37:00 he speaks on it.
Hahaha now Iowa is paying me this is greatHe's simply filling a void left after Fellers became persona non grata @Iowa. Capitalizing on an opportunity, is all. Don't hate the paid lover, hate the game.
Dude, it's a running gag.Hahaha now Iowa is paying me this is great
I know it is and it's hilarious. Only Pat gets paid 😜Dude, it's a running gag.
What were some of the weirdest?
I'm a ho for gossip and love to read a good 3rd-party characterization of a 2nd party's socials; hook a brother up?