Fair enough! Maybe I shouldn't speak for all Iowa fans!Highly recommended reading.
ISU vs. Iowa (what do you think?)
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Good Lord you have no conscience. I'm noticing not many are engaging you. I should follow suite. And your still an Ahole.
Joe Lee is the most likely next man up.
Josh Barr would be an interesting idea if he can make it down. Probably not ready for Kennedy yet, but if Kennedy doesn't get his conditioning right, Barr will press the entire match.
Brian Ferentz fell asleep watching that offensive display.
I could see that and IF IF IF this WERE to happen I dont think it will be a game-time decision.
I've been engaged far more than usual actually. All you have to do is ignore my handle. Extremely simple.
Agreed, very interesting matchup and not a gimme to PK (or either side) by any means there. I think PK will get his conditioning back as he comes back from his injury and gets settled in up a weight, but he would still be undersized against a team that can't simply be outworked anyway
The more general question is - assume Penn State has won every match from 125 through 165. Would you guys rather send a backup out against PK and let Truax sit at 184, in order to let Star shut up Gabe, or let Star wrestle PK at 174 and Truax wrestle Gabe at 184 in order to preserve the meet shutout?
This is genuinely meant for discussion too, by the way. Not trying to start anything. Personally I'd probably vote for keeping my guys at their regular weight and work for the shutout, rather than moving around the lineup in reaction to statements made by a true freshman on the other side
This would be a silly lineup disruption, and CS doesn't do silly. So pretty much zero chance.
And if Arnold can beat Truax at 184, more power to him.
It’s a fan wish. It would never actually happen. I’m sure Cael saw enough with CStar’s riff with Washington to ever allow it if CStar even asked.
I don't think it would ever happen, either. I think Cael as a coach would not let the emotions come into play there and he would just play the normal lineup regardless.
I'm asking though, as a fan - with these scenarios, which would you rather:
1) Penn State wins 9 of 10 matchups; the one loss is a backup 174 to PK, but Star bumps up to wrestle Gabe Arnold and Star embarrasses him
2) Penn State wins 10 matchups with Star beating PK at 174 and Truax beating Gabe at 184
Again, I'm positing this as a legitimate discussion item. Personally I'd rather scenario 1 if it's my team on the winning end, but I also see why number 2 is desirable considering the meet still isn't in danger and the team outcome is the same but it also gives an opportunity to shut up some trash talk against the biggest recruit on the biggest rival
The 'Iowa way'? Laughable.
Question - how many stall calls will they have against PSU? Carver magic might be able to keep it to single digits.
Or you could try to apologize for being a sub-human asswipe. It's sad there are actually people like you walking around.
I agree completely
Let's say, up through 165, Iowa has won 1 match and so the shutout is out of the question already. Does that change your mind?
I think it changes my mind, personally, because at that point I'm not looking at something special from the team side but rather at what the best storyline is from the remaining individual matchups
Definitely shutout. Carter beating up on a true freshman doesn’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things but shutting out Iowa sure does
In this scenario I still like everyone at their own weight still. I’d like Truax to get his hands on Arnold plus sitting a 3 time AA just so Carter can wrestle Gabe doesn’t make much sense to me
It's not a legitimate discussion item, it's a silly hypothetical. Because bumping up Starroci to 184 just to face Arnold would almost certainly never happen. Also, I doubt that CS is much interested in "embarrassing" an opponent or that he much cares about trash talk from an opponent
And BTW, what did Arnold say that has some folks spun up?
This is why I love wrestling, and dual meets especially. It's an individual sport with a team component. We want each individual to win, of course, but we think about things in the team perspective always anyway. If we stop putting the team first then the individual matchups can be more dramatic, but if we stop caring about individual matchups then the team score can be more dramatic. There's so many layers to it and it makes it so much more engaging for the fan
Fair! I agree with this completely.
Arnold said in an interview last year something to the effect of "next year I will be the best 174 in the country and no one will beat me". I don't think he called out Star explicitly but the implication was clear that he was calling out Star
This seems unnecessary. @WildTurk is a good wrestling fan and a pretty decent guy as far as I can tell.
I don't disagree. However, they've been throwing accolades at him for years. I think I heard too many excuses for his big loss as well
Are you forgetting Snyder or Cassar? And then there's Kerry McCoy who was almost .500 (at 190) before bumping up and and tearing it up.
Well it’s one way to avoid having him killed by Carter.
You missed quite a bit the last few days.
More than 1 guy.
1 beat the unbeatable, twice and the other one is sporting a gold medal.
Just watched the tape replay of the match. Dresser should be embarressed for not challenging the no take down call for Echemendia. It was close, and in my view through replay, a takedown. But to not even take a second look at it.....WTF!!!. Dual meet outcome, national ranking for your guy, post season seeding,.... Cael, Ryan, the Brands, etc., would have been all over it. That was terrible coaching!
Nah, that ship has sailed.
We just like wrestling. It was an entertaining dual. Arnold at 174 is going to be a tough out for anyone. Woods is so disappointing, but he wins. He could blow opponents out if he let it fly.
You obviously have not read the sub-human comment. Speaking of unnecessary, jeez.
Someone who thinks the comment was not that bad. There has never been a worse comment on this board ever. Even if I tried I couldn't come close. But he's a good guy, rite.
Everyone, really. Let's stop hijacking threads with Turk talk.
Wrestle with a pig, you get covered in crap and he loves it.
Wrestle with a pig, you get covered in crap and he loves it.
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