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It all starts with the dropped passes.

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The new receivers coach needs to be on a serious hot seat. These receivers had no issues like this last year. It's hard to watch and must be worse for the players, especially McSorley. This season is starting to disintegrate and to me it all starts with the endless dropped passes.
 
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During his halftime interview on PSU radio Franklin acknowledged how the dropped passes were momentum killers. Since he knows it and he's the head coach, it's his job to fix it. So far at Game #7 there's been no improvement.
 
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I agree that Corley ultimately needs to be held responsible but there’s no way someone hasn’t taught these kids the finer points of catching a ball before they got to PSU. all the camps they’ve attended, at some point they just gotta make the damn catch and no excuses for drops
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find an athlete at this level who would blame anyone but himself for dropping passes. Any player that would blame someone else would lose all the respect of his teammates and coaches. It's ludicrous. It's not like the first passes they ever tried to catch came when they entered college. What's on the coaches is that it is their decision whether or not to keep playing the guys who are dropping the ball.
 
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mn78psu83 said:
You'd be hard pressed to find an athlete at this level who would blame anyone but himself for dropping passes. What's on the coaches is that it is their decision whether or not to keep playing the guys who are dropping the ball.
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This is 100% on the money. That’s where i get ticked when the same guys keep getting the same amount of playing time and the younger guys not getting an opportunity
 
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JJ didn't seem to play much the last part of the game, no idea if it was because of the drops or something else. Polk dropped 2 or 3, figured he'd get benched but it didn't happen. Hippenhammer dropped 2. Cam Sullivan-Brown looked pretty good and Dotson caught his only target late in the game.

Perhaps Dotson getting in the game late was a message to the others?
 
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Cam Sullivan-Brown came in the game and made two nice receptions. I finally thought we had a WR in the game who could get open. Then he disappeared. Anyone know what happened to him? He may have been back, but did not notice him after those receptions.
 
palmettolion said:
JJ didn't seem to play much the last part of the game, no idea if it was because of the drops or something else. Polk dropped 2 or 3, figured he'd get benched but it didn't happen. Hippenhammer dropped 2. Cam Sullivan-Brown looked pretty good and Dotson caught his only target late in the game.

Perhaps Dotson getting in the game late was a message to the others?
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JJ didn’t even have his helmet on during the 4th quarter which led me to wonder if he was hurt or knew he wasn’t going back in.
 
Nittany Ziggy said:
How do you “coach” someone to not drop a pass?
Please name one thing that a coach can do to “help” a receiver to regress in his pass catching skills?
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Perhaps tie a string around the receivers balls and give it yank everytime the ball is dropped. Or is that not allowed?
 
Nittany Ziggy said:
How do you “coach” someone to not drop a pass?
Please name one thing that a coach can do to “help” a receiver to regress in his pass catching skills?
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It's called coaching of fundamentals. There are basic techniques players need to use to catch a ball. It's not as though they're told, "OK boys. Go run your routes and catch the ball if you can."
 
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NittPicker said:
Agree but the coaches are there to coach. If the players have natural stone hands there's not much anyone can do to help.
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What the coaches can do is put some one in the game that can catch the ball. WR is a position where there is depth. From what I have see Sullivan-Brown has caught the ball during the limited playing time he has gotten. He redshirted last year so there is not worry about a redshirt. Yet he gets little playing time.

CJF said in his post game press conf. that the young receivers got playing time due to injuries at the position. That sounds like he was planning to keep the same WR's playing no matter how many drops they had.....
 
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Penalties are every bit as harmful as the dropped passes and that falls on the Coaching.
 
dcf4psu said:
These receivers had no issues like this last year.
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Yes, they did. They just didn't play as much behind Hamilton, Blacknall, and Gesicki. Johnson and Thompkins have had stone hands since they arrived on campus.
rudedude said:
I just figured the Psuro JUGGS gun would expand hand span!
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The line would be so long to use said machine that the receivers' reps on it wouldn't be enough to do any good.
 
Thompkins is practically invisble. I think he had one catch and a muffed punt that wasn’t entirely his fault. Polk was terrible. JJ has been consistently inconsistent. Hard to imagine we’ll lose production playing freshmen here.
 
Someone mentioned Hippenhammer had two drops, but I am not sure either were true drops. He only was able to get one hand on one ball, and on the second, it certainly appeared the defender tipped it...
 
The loss of Gattis has definitely hurt this redeiving group.The receivers used to take pride in their blocking its another area where they are under performing.The dropped passes are drive killers.I believe there is issues with the way they are running their routes that’s why they are not getting separation.
 
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At this point I don’t care who’s fault it is, just bench the players who are continually dropping the ball. If Polk, Hamilton, and JJ don’t play another snap this year it will be too soon.

I’m usually not a proponent of “playing for next year,” but I would play a WR group of all freshman through the rest of the season. See what the young guys got and help their future development. If the drops continue with an entirely new set of players, then it’s time to look for a new WR coach.
 
What happened to Justin Shorter? After fall practice he was supposedly all-world and was going to get lots of playing time. He has vanished.
 
YorkLion said:
Penalties are every bit as harmful as the dropped passes and that falls on the Coaching.
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We’ve consistently been one of the least-penalized teams in the country under Franklin, and that hasn’t changed this year. We had more drops than penalties yesterday, and the drops took a touchdown off the board.
 
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Does anyone have an accurate tally of the number of dropped passes this year? I lost track a few weeks back.
 
dcf4psu said:
The new receivers coach needs to be on a serious hot seat. These receivers had no issues like this last year. It's hard to watch and must be worse for the players, especially McSorley. This season is starting to disintegrate and to me it all starts with the endless dropped passes.
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The new WR coach can't catch them. I'm pretty sure he isn't teaching them how to drop passes. Its in their heads.
Now if you want to talk about the inability of our 6'4" WR to get off the LOS or for some of our other WR's to get no separation. Thats fair.
One of the things I had heard about Joe Mo. was that he designed really good pass routes. We might be missing that. It would be interesting to know how much imput the WR coach and the OC and Franklin have in designing routes.
 
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rudedude said:
Thompkins disappeared also. Injury or just benched? Drops are a huge problem with this group of WR. Don't we have a JUGS machine? Maybe Psuro can supply one! o_O
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From what we've been told and we saw pictures of it. JJ had been staying after practice to work with Trace and the JUGS machine.
I think Thompkins got "dinged" up and thats why we didn't see him, although the way he's disappeared in 3 other games who knows.:rolleyes:
 
Polk is seriously one of worse wr I ever seen. He can't do anything right.
Yes from what I seen these wr are holding the whole offense back. It's affecting the play calling because no confindence in the passing game anymore.
Polk, JJ and the other one need to sit already. Why won't Franklin give these younger guys a shot already.
 
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