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Know Your Penn State Wrestlers, 2021 Edition

WISCONSIN
125 HOWARD DEC BARNETT OR BARNETT DEC SHUNK
133 RBY MD
141 LEE PIN
149 SCHARENRBOCK DEC
157 BERGE DEC
165 LEE MD
174 STAROCCI MD
184 BROOKS MD
197 BEARD DEC OR WISC. DEC OTHER PSU
285 HILGER DEC OR NEVILLS MD ANY OTHER
 
PSU vs Wisconsin 2/2/21

125
: Barnett DEC over any PSU; Howard DEC over Rotondo; Rotondo DEC over Shunk
133: RBY MD over Burwick
141: Lee TF over any, Bartlett DEC over any
149: Any PSU DEC over Scharenbrock
157: Berge DEC over Model or Bahr or MD over Anderson; Any WISCY DEC over other PSU
165: Any PSU DEC over any WIS
174: Starocci or Edsell DEC over Krattiger
184: Brooks DEC over Weiler
197: Beard MD over Salemme; Salemme DEC Higgins
285: Hillger DEC Nevills, or Nevills MD over Christiansen
 
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Wisconsin

125 any Wisconsin Dec
133 Bravo Young MD
141 Lee to
149 any PSU Dec
157 Berge Dec
165 Lee Dec
174 Starocci Dec
184 Brooks Dec
197 Salemme Dec
Hwt Neville dec
 
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WISCONSIN
125- Barnett DEC Howard or MD Shunk OR PSU DEC
133- RBY MD
141- PSU Fall
149 Any PSU DEC
157- Berge DEC or Wisc Dec any other PSU
165- Lee MD, Manville Dec
174- Starocci MD OR Wisc DEC any other
184-Brooks MD
197- Beard MD OR Salemme MD Higgins
285 -Nevills DEC Hillger, Nevills MD Christianson
 
I started out to prove that my score was wrong due to Nick Lee's bout, but you have it correct, but I did notice Hockeygod11 predicted TF and you only gave him, and everyone, 2 pts. Is it due to the IU opponent?
Sorry, I should have offered an explanation with the scores.

125 Out due to FFT
133 and 141 Everyone got 2, because IU opponents weren't listed. In that case, as long as there is a unanimous choice for the winner, everyone gets the 2, rather than throwing the bout away.
197 Out due to PSU FFT

Everybody got 149 and 174 wrong, unanimously, so the only differentiation for this match was 157, 165, 184 and 285. Considering that the picks were all unanimous for the PSU guys, the only real differentiation was with the win type.
 
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Wisconsin
125
- PSU MFF (Barnett Dec Howard, or MD Shunk)
133 - RBY MD Burwick
141 - Lee TF any WISC, Bartlett DEC any WISC
149 - Any PSU DEC Scharenbrock
157 - Berge DEC or Wisconsin DEC other PSU
165 - Any PSU DEC
174 - Starocci MD Krattiger
184 - Brooks MD Weiler
197 - Beard MD over Salemme; Salemme DEC other PSU
285 - Hillger DEC Nevills, or Nevills MD Christiansen
 
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WISCONSIN

125- Howard DEC (any) or Barnett DEC (Shunk) or Shunk DEC (Rotondo)
133- Bravo-Young MD
141- Lee MD (Dentino) TF (any other Wisc) or Bartlett DEC
149- PSU DEC
157- Berge DEC or Boone DEC
165- Lee MD or Manville DEC
174- Starocci MD
184- Brooks MD
197- Beard MD or Higgins DEC
285- Nevills DEC (Hillger) or MD (Christiansen)
 
Wisconsin
125 Howard PSU Dec or PSU FF
133 RBY PSU TF
141 Lee PSU TF
149 PSU dec
157 Berge PSU Dec
165 Lee PSU Dec
174 Starocci PSU MD
184 Brooks PSU MD
197 Beard PSU Dec, if no Beard - dec Wisky
HWT Nevills PSU Dec Hilger
 
Wisconsin

125 any Wisconsin Dec
133 Bravo Young MD
141 Lee to
149 any PSU Dec
157 Berge Dec
165 Lee Dec
174 Starocci Dec
184 Brooks Dec
197 Salemme Dec
Hwt Neville dec
JAYHOUSE,
I know someone above already asked...I am again.

Your 141 guess isn't clear. If "o" was close to "f" on the keyboard, I'd guess you fat-fingered the "f" for "tf". As it is, we are not sure what your guess is, other than picking N. Lee to win.
 
Sorry, I should have offered an explanation with the scores.

125 Out due to FFT
133 and 141 Everyone got 2, because IU opponents weren't listed. In that case, as long as there is a unanimous choice for the winner, everyone gets the 2, rather than throwing the bout away.
197 Out due to PSU FFT

Everybody got 149 and 174 wrong, unanimously, so the only differentiation for this match was 157, 165, 184 and 285. Considering that the picks were all unanimous for the PSU guys, the only real differentiation was with the win type.
Thanks, but the ref also got 174 wrong, there should have been a CStar escape and less riding time, lol, just kidding/not kidding!
 
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Wisconsin

125 - Howard Dec or Wisc Dec Shunk
133 - RBY MD other PSU Dec
141 - Lee TF Bartlett MD other PSU Dec
149 - Verk Dec Wisc other PSU
157 - Wisc Dec
165 - Lee MD Manville Dec
174 - Starocci Dec or Wisc Dec other PSU
184 -Brooks Dec or Wisc Dec other PSU
197 - Beard MD or other PSU Dec
285 - Hillger Dec or Nevills MD Christianson
 
NU...
125 Out due to FFT
133 Everybody got 2, because Utterback went for NU
184 Everybody got 2, because Davison went for NU
197 Out due to FFT
285 Everybody but jqforester got 2, because everybody else was unanimous for Nevills. This goes against precedent, because usually if it isn't unanimous, the entire weight gets thrown out. jqforester, if you wish to protest this decision, let me know, and I will take it under advisement with my legal counsel.
 
NU...
125 Out due to FFT
133 Everybody got 2, because Utterback went for NU
184 Everybody got 2, because Davison went for NU
197 Out due to FFT
285 Everybody but jqforester got 2, because everybody else was unanimous for Nevills. This goes against precedent, because usually if it isn't unanimous, the entire weight gets thrown out. jqforester, if you wish to protest this decision, let me know, and I will take it under advisement with my legal counsel.
Im good with the decision Judge lol
 
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Alright, just to put everyone's minds at ease, because I know you're all worried about my mental health, due to all of these lineup iterations...Entering these picks is not that much more time consuming than it has been in the past. I will admit that it slows me down a little bit, but you guys have been pretty good about the way you're entering your picks. Most have been pretty clear. And, I expect that it will get easier from here. Heck, there's only six more duals, anyway, right?
 
So, we had three guys not enter picks for the Wisconsin match, which puts me in a conundrum. Maybe they didn't check in on the forum between when the match was announced, and the match. It's very possible that pointingdogsrule was out with his pointing dogs, ZepGrafitti had his headphones on, listening to Misty Mountain Hop, and bigbopper was, well, bopping? I realize people have lives beyond KYPSW. Even though it absorbs every thread of my being this time of year, it may not cause others to check in on the forum every 30 seconds.

With the short season, I hate to see anyone out of the contest, virtually before it even began, so I looked at several scenarios to give a fair and reasonable way of giving them points. After all, this short turnaround is unprecedented.

I looked at several scenarios, and here is what I came up with. I have given each of the three of them the same score as the lowest scoring individual from this match. Sorry to bust you out like this, verolion, but you had 13 points, so each of the guys that didn't put picks in have been given those same picks, for scores of 13.

That being said, I'm open to other suggestions. If any of the three, or anyone else, has a solution that might be fairer, speak now or forever hold your peace. Someone suggested I could even let them tell me what they would have picked, if they had picked. I'll be honest, I don't see that happening.

Also, this is a very rare and unprecedented occurrence. To everyone else, don't get all butthurt, just because you didn't get the same treatment for a match in 2018, and don't expect the same treatment for our next match that is a week and a half away. Under ordinary circumstances, I won't be this lenient, even if you are bopping for two days.
 
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125 Out due to FFT
141 and 165 Win type doesn't count, due to Wisconsin not sending the right guys out.

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From one of the contestants on Scout:

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I think 149 should be free points for everyone... The match notes didn't specify the man-bun for Scharenbrock... I clearly wouldn't have picked someone with a man-bun to win against PSU.

Who was it in the last couple of years that had a manbun for us? Gardner? I wonder how loyalandtrue would pick, if both guys had them? :p
 
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125 Out due to FFT
141 and 165 Win type doesn't count, due to Wisconsin not sending the right guys out.

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Question, first place 98lber, just to pick on him, shows 18 for picks and 4 bonus for a total of 22, but the individual weights just show 5 2’s, is something not showing up for me? Or am I justmissing something obvious?
 
Question, first place 98lber, just to pick on him, shows 18 for picks and 4 bonus for a total of 22, but the individual weights just show 5 2’s, is something not showing up for me? Or am I justmissing something obvious?
Interesting. The totals are totalling off of a different part of the spreadsheet, not the individual bout result portion. I'll have to take a look at what has gone wrong with my spreadsheet.
 
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To=tap out. Nick Lee is a beast. Just noticed my mistake. I had a busy day and didn't take time to proof read. We Are!!!
 
First year in this game so forgive me if this is obvious but I believe I picked every match (IU, NU and UW) but there are people on the scorecard with 16 picks and it shows me with 12 picks? How do I not have 30 picks? I pick 10 weights each match so wouldn’t it be 30?
 
First year in this game so forgive me if this is obvious but I believe I picked every match (IU, NU and UW) but there are people on the scorecard with 16 picks and it shows me with 12 picks? How do I not have 30 picks? I pick 10 weights each match so wouldn’t it be 30?
Picks number is how many points you get for picking winner, best possible, if no weights thrown out, would be 20, 10 x 2, you can earn a bonus point for guessing the correct Decision, ie Dec, MD, TF, F, for another possible 10 points (listed as bonus), the absolute best would be 30 points, again if all weights contested and no strange wrestlers sent on the mat. Strange is my choice of words (for listed in match notes in advance), not meaning if they have a man bun or not, lol.
Since you had 12 picks you correctly chose the winner in 6 weights. There will be a cumulative scoring sheet posted showing results for all three matches (or 4 if after our next Dual) at some point
 
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First year in this game so forgive me if this is obvious but I believe I picked every match (IU, NU and UW) but there are people on the scorecard with 16 picks and it shows me with 12 picks? How do I not have 30 picks? I pick 10 weights each match so wouldn’t it be 30?
12 is the number of points you got for that match by picking the correct winner. Bonus is the number of points you got for picking the correct win type in addition to winner. The 12 under picks means you got 6 weight classes right in that match.
 
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Not sure my Wisconsin is correct (mostly because its indicates I'm on top).

157 - Berge MAJ; or Boone.

184 - Brooks MAJ.

Maybe I'm missing something in reading the table, but it look like I have 0s in both columns.
Interesting. The totals are totalling off of a different part of the spreadsheet, not the individual bout result portion. I'll have to take a look at what has gone wrong with my spreadsheet.

I noticed that, but don't understand the view. I picked all winners correctly and saw decision types had zeros for those I had also picked correctly (e g. 157, 184, 285). I figured I just didn't understand the spreadsheet. Maybe when it was sorted all the columns weren't included.

I think my total is right. ALL bout winners picked correctly. 5 decision types picked correctly. 141 correct pick type thrown out
 
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So, we had three guys not enter picks for the Wisconsin match, which puts me in a conundrum. Maybe they didn't check in on the forum between when the match was announced, and the match. It's very possible that pointingdogsrule was out with his pointing dogs, ZepGrafitti had his headphones on, listening to Misty Mountain Hop, and bigbopper was, well, bopping? I realize people have lives beyond KYPSW. Even though it absorbs every thread of my being this time of year, it may not cause others to check in on the forum every 30 seconds.

With the short season, I hate to see anyone out of the contest, virtually before it even began, so I looked at several scenarios to give a fair and reasonable way of giving them points. After all, this short turnaround is unprecedented.

I looked at several scenarios, and here is what I came up with. I have given each of the three of them the same score as the lowest scoring individual from this match. Sorry to bust you out like this, verolion, but you had 13 points, so each of the guys that didn't put picks in have been given those same picks, for scores of 13.

That being said, I'm open to other suggestions. If any of the three, or anyone else, has a solution that might be fairer, speak now or forever hold your peace. Someone suggested I could even let them tell me what they would have picked, if they had picked. I'll be honest, I don't see that happening.

Also, this is a very rare and unprecedented occurrence. To everyone else, don't get all butthurt, just because you didn't get the same treatment for a match in 2018, and don't expect the same treatment for our next match that is a week and a half away. Under ordinary circumstances, I won't be this lenient, even if you are bopping for two days.

Thanks pa..tn.
My bad. Outta the loop for a couple days and didn't even realize the meet was on till end of 141.
Fantasy golf [rookie] and way too much snow cut into my board time
Figured I just bag it till tourny time, but if it's cool w/ALL, I'll take the 2nd life? :cool:
OTOH: fair is fair. I can stand down for a while.
 
Alrighty, then. Sometimes it is easy.

For the Excel nerds, the following is what got me into trouble...
=IF(AND(B6<>"",B6=B$4,C6=C$4),3,IF(AND(B6<>"",B6=B$4,C6<>C$4),2,0))

How? Well, when Penn State forfeits the 125 match, and, therefore, there is nothing in cell B6, B6 being nothing causes the AND statements to be false and return 0. The zero is correct for 125, but copy, paste and repeat across the weights, and it fails.

Anyway, here are the updated results. Same totals, but corrected individual bout scores.

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Alrighty, then. Sometimes it is easy.

For the Excel nerds, the following is what got me into trouble...
=IF(AND(B6<>"",B6=B$4,C6=C$4),3,IF(AND(B6<>"",B6=B$4,C6<>C$4),2,0))

How? Well, when Penn State forfeits the 125 match, and, therefore, there is nothing in cell B6, B6 being nothing causes the AND statements to be false and return 0. The zero is correct for 125, but copy, paste and repeat across the weights, and it fails.

Anyway, here are the updated results. Same totals, but corrected individual bout scores.

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Did you add another "If()" in there then? Just curious.
 
Did you add another "If()" in there then? Just curious.
No. I put 'a' in column B for all contestants, which satisfies the B not being blank. 'a' is not the name of the contestant that won the forfeit, which returns 0 for the 125 result for everyone, and in the succeeding weights allows the correct score to calculate, as well.
 
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