KYPSW 2021-22
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Rider
125 Hildebrand MD
133 RBY TF
141 Lee MD
149 Barlett MD
157 Negron or Barraclough Dec
165 Berge Or Edsell Dec
174 Starocci MD
184 Brooks Fall
197 Dean Fall
Hvy Kerk Fall
125 Hildebrand MD
133 RBY TF
141 Lee MD
149 Barlett MD
157 Negron or Barraclough Dec
165 Berge Or Edsell Dec
174 Starocci MD
184 Brooks Fall
197 Dean Fall
Hvy Kerk Fall
Rider:
125: Hildebrandt maj
133: RBY fall
141: Lee maj
149: Bartlett maj
157: PSU dec
165: PSU maj
174: Starocci fall
184: Brooks fall
197: Dean maj
285: Kerkvliet fall
125: Hildebrandt maj
133: RBY fall
141: Lee maj
149: Bartlett maj
157: PSU dec
165: PSU maj
174: Starocci fall
184: Brooks fall
197: Dean maj
285: Kerkvliet fall
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Rider
125 PSU 125
133 RBY TF
141 Lee MD
149 PSU dec
157 PSU dec
165 PSU dec
174 PSU TF
184 PSU Fall
197 PSU TF
285 PSU fall
125 PSU 125
133 RBY TF
141 Lee MD
149 PSU dec
157 PSU dec
165 PSU dec
174 PSU TF
184 PSU Fall
197 PSU TF
285 PSU fall
Rider:
125 Hildebrandt MD
133 Bravo-Young TF
141 Lee MD
149 Bartlett Dec
157 any PSU Dec
165 Edsell or Berge Dec
174 Starocci Fall
184 Brooks Fall
197 Dean MD
285 Kerkvliet Fall
125 Hildebrandt MD
133 Bravo-Young TF
141 Lee MD
149 Bartlett Dec
157 any PSU Dec
165 Edsell or Berge Dec
174 Starocci Fall
184 Brooks Fall
197 Dean MD
285 Kerkvliet Fall
Rider
125: Hildebrandt Fall Klinsky
133: RBY Fall Koehler
141: Lee TF Kinner
149: Bartlett Fall McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron MD Bobchin
165: Berge/Edsell MD Wilson
174: Starocci Fall Reitsma
184: Brooks Fall Vasquez
197: Dean Fall Bell
285: Kerkvliet Fall Szuba
125: Hildebrandt Fall Klinsky
133: RBY Fall Koehler
141: Lee TF Kinner
149: Bartlett Fall McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron MD Bobchin
165: Berge/Edsell MD Wilson
174: Starocci Fall Reitsma
184: Brooks Fall Vasquez
197: Dean Fall Bell
285: Kerkvliet Fall Szuba
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PSU vs Rider
125: Hildebrandt MD Klinsky
133: RBY TF Koehler
141: Lee MD Kinner
149: Bartlett MD McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron DEC Bobchin
165: Berge MD, Edsell DEC Wilson
174: Starocci MD Reitsma
184: Brooks FALL Vasquez
197: Dean FALL Bell
285: Kerkvliet FALL Szuba
125: Hildebrandt MD Klinsky
133: RBY TF Koehler
141: Lee MD Kinner
149: Bartlett MD McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron DEC Bobchin
165: Berge MD, Edsell DEC Wilson
174: Starocci MD Reitsma
184: Brooks FALL Vasquez
197: Dean FALL Bell
285: Kerkvliet FALL Szuba
Rider
125: Hildebrandt Fall Klinsky
133: RBY Fall Koehler
141: Lee TF Kinner
149: Bartlett Fall McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron MD Bobchin
165: Berge/Edsell MD Wilson
174: Starocci Fall Reitsma
184: Brooks Fall Vasquez
197: Dean Fall Bell
285: Kerkvliet Fall Szuba
125: Hildebrandt Fall Klinsky
133: RBY Fall Koehler
141: Lee TF Kinner
149: Bartlett Fall McComas
157: Barraclough/Negron MD Bobchin
165: Berge/Edsell MD Wilson
174: Starocci Fall Reitsma
184: Brooks Fall Vasquez
197: Dean Fall Bell
285: Kerkvliet Fall Szuba
PSU vs Rider
125 – Hildebrandt MD over Klinsky
133 – RBY TF over Koehler
141 – Lee MD over Kinner
149 – Bartlett DEC over McComas
157 – Barraclough/Negron DEC over Bobchin
165 – Edsell/Berge MD over Wilson
174 – Starocci FALL over Reitsma
184 – Brooks FALL over Vasquez
197 – Dean FALL over Bell
285 – Kerkvliet FALL over Szuba
125 – Hildebrandt MD over Klinsky
133 – RBY TF over Koehler
141 – Lee MD over Kinner
149 – Bartlett DEC over McComas
157 – Barraclough/Negron DEC over Bobchin
165 – Edsell/Berge MD over Wilson
174 – Starocci FALL over Reitsma
184 – Brooks FALL over Vasquez
197 – Dean FALL over Bell
285 – Kerkvliet FALL over Szuba
Rider
125: Hildebrandt DEC
133: RBY TF
141: Lee MD
149: Bartlett FALL
157: PSU DEC
165: PSU MD
174: Starocci FALL
184: Brooks FALL
197: Dean FALL
285: Kerkvliet FALL*
*I think anyone who correctly predicts a Fall for Kerk here should be given an extra bonus point, as his opponent is, after all, from Brick, NJ.
125: Hildebrandt DEC
133: RBY TF
141: Lee MD
149: Bartlett FALL
157: PSU DEC
165: PSU MD
174: Starocci FALL
184: Brooks FALL
197: Dean FALL
285: Kerkvliet FALL*
*I think anyone who correctly predicts a Fall for Kerk here should be given an extra bonus point, as his opponent is, after all, from Brick, NJ.
Here are the Rider results. Everybody gets 2 for 149. Nobody gets nothing for 157 and 184.
Okay, everyone, I've got issues. As if you all weren't already aware.
In year's past, I had 100% confidence in these results. Not so much this year. There was a major SUBAR mid-season, when some of you maybe saw an updated rankings, followed by them disappearing. Well, that led to a massive amount of time spent re-entering massive amounts of data. By the time I was done, I was spent.
So, below are the final* dual season standings, and here is the spreadsheet. If you think there is an error, please use the spreadsheet and let me know where you think the error occurred. The tab that opens has the individual dual scores, beginning at A1. Individual duals are in tabs across the bottom. If I don't hear from anyone by mid-week, we'll call them final.
And, I do apologize for the screw-up. I will have a plan in place to prevent this from happening next year.
In year's past, I had 100% confidence in these results. Not so much this year. There was a major SUBAR mid-season, when some of you maybe saw an updated rankings, followed by them disappearing. Well, that led to a massive amount of time spent re-entering massive amounts of data. By the time I was done, I was spent.
So, below are the final* dual season standings, and here is the spreadsheet. If you think there is an error, please use the spreadsheet and let me know where you think the error occurred. The tab that opens has the individual dual scores, beginning at A1. Individual duals are in tabs across the bottom. If I don't hear from anyone by mid-week, we'll call them final.
And, I do apologize for the screw-up. I will have a plan in place to prevent this from happening next year.
KYPSW B1G Championships
Description
The B1G Championships functions as a qualifier tournament for Nationals. The B1G will automatically qualify a certain number of wrestlers per weight class, based on their placing at the B1G Championships. The auto-qualifiers (AQs) will number as follows:
125: 10
133: 10
141: 7
149: 7
157: 7
165: 7
174: 8
184: 12
197: 11
285: 9
In addition, there is a need to determine an extra place finish beyond the AQ at each weight to identify the wrestler that falls one place short of being an AQ, per one of the criteria needed to attain “Bronze Standard” for eligibility to obtain an “at-large” berth to Nationals. Long-story-short, for any weights where there are 8 or more AQ, those weights will be wrestled to AQ+1 placements.
What You Need To Do
For each of the 10 PSU wrestlers competing at the B1G Championships, predict his:
(1) Place Finish, per the placing categories listed below for each weight class; and
(2) Total Number of Bonus Points (to the nearest half-point) scored during the tournament EXCLUDING matches wrestled to determine 9th place through 14th place.
All predictions must be posted in this thread by 10:00 AM Eastern on Saturday, March 7th.
Placing Categories, By Weight Class
125: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, or “DNP”
133: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, or “DNP”
141: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or “DNP”
149: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or “DNP”
157: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or “DNP””
165: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or “DNP”
174: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, or “DNP”
184: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, or 12thor “DNP”
197: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th,or “DNP”
285: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, or “DNP”
*Note: As you can see, there is a minimum of 8 place finishes for each weight class. We essentially predict the placing based on the number of AQs +1 for all weights with at least 8 auto-qualifiers. Beyond that, we predict “DNP” for “does not place”.
Scoring
For each PSU wrestler, you will be awarded “Placement Points” based on your prediction for where the wrestler places in the tournament. You will also be awarded “Bonus Points” based on your predicted number of bonus points scored by the wrestler (excluding extra matches wrestled for 9th-14th place). The scoring structure for Placement Points and Bonus Points are listed below.
Placement Points
30 points for predicting a wrestler's place finish exactly (includes the “DNP” category)
25 points for a prediction being off by 1 place
20 points for a prediction being off by 2 places
15 points for a prediction being off by 3 places
10 points for a prediction being off by 4 places
0 points for a prediction being off by 5 or more places
Note: Any "DNP" finish is considered 1 place away from the final placement position for the weight.
Bonus Points
4 points awarded for predicting a wrestler's bonus point total exactly (to the nearest half-point)
3 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 0.5 points
2 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 1.0 points
1 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 1.5 points
0 points awarded for a prediction that is off by 2.0 or more points
Note: Major Decision = 1.0 bonus points; Tech Fall = 1.5 bonus points; Fall, Medical Forfeit, Injury Default, and Disqualification = 2.0 bonus points.
The maximum attainable score under this system is 340 points. Tiebreaker criteria are (1) most placement points, (2) most “30-point” placement predictions, (3) most “25-point” placement predictions, (4) most “20-point” placement predictions, (5) most “15-point” placement predictions, (6) most “10 point” placement predictions, and (7) most Rivals or 24/7 posts.
Example Predictions/Outcomes/Scoring
Example 1. I predict Wrestler A to finish 5th and score 1.5 bonus points. Wrestler A actually places 1st and scores 2.0 bonus points. I receive 10 Placement Points (1st – 5th = -4 = 10 pts) and 3 Bonus Points (2.0 – 1.5 = 0.5 = 3 pts) for a total of 13 points for my Wrestler A weight class prediction.
Example 2. I predict Wrestler B to finish 9th in a 9 AQ weight class and score 2.0 bonus points. Wrestler B actually places 4th and scores 4.0 bonus points. I receive 0 Placement Points (4th – 9th = -5 = 0 pts) and 0 Bonus Points (4.0 – 2.0 = 2.0 = 0 pts) for a total of 0 points for my Wrestler B weight class prediction.
Example 3. I predict Wrestler C to finish “DNP” and score 0.0 bonus points in a weight class with 8 AQ. Wrestler C actually finishes 7th and scores 1.0 bonus points. I receive 15 Placement Points (7th – DNP = 3 = 15 pts) and 2 Bonus Points (1.0 – 0.0 = 1.0 = 2 pts) for a total of 17 points for my Wrestler C weight class prediction.
Example 4. I predict Wrestler D to place 9th and score 1.5 bonus points. Wrestler D actually withdraws after his first match, does not place in the top 10, and scores 0.0 bonus points. I receive 20 Placement Points (DNP – 9th = 2 = 20 pts) and 1 Bonus Point (0.0 – 1.5 = -1.5 = 1 pt) for a total of 21 points for my Wrestler D weight class prediction.
I will post a link to B1G pre-seeds when they are announced and actual seeds and brackets when they become available.
Again, all predictions must be posted in this thread by 10:00 AM Eastern on Saturday, March 5th.
Although these scores will be compiled with the Dual Season and Nationals scores to crown an overall season champion, all are welcome to join this particular event to be crowned B1G champion. Good luck!
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Actually, Roar, I would much prefer to just have 3 numbers...
125: 3, 1
133: 1, 3
and so on.
As I'm entering these, I can fly through them, if it's just numbers.
Question on Example 3:
-If there's 8 AQs and they wrestle to 9th place. Wouldn't DNP = 10th [7th - DNP = 3 = 15]??
That can't be, because we've been using that example for a long as the contest has existed, and no one has ever said anything. Sigh.
Fixed.
pawrestling can give the definitive answer, but I'm pretty sure that placing has nothing to do with how many qualifiers there are. There are 8 scoring places, and any 9th is a DNP no matter how many qualifiers there are.
The number of AQs determine where the DNP starts, for each weight.
For example: this year 141 will have 6 DNPs and count as a "9th", but 184 will only have 1 DNP for 14th place. So if you pick a guy to DNP and he finishes 7th, you may or may not get any points depending on weight class.
That's my understanding anyway.
No. This is not correct. The brackets will be drawn with mini-brackets for placement out to one beyond AQ. So, 184, for instance, will have 13 places, even though only 8 will be on the podium.
The use of "Placement Points" for KYPSW should not be confused with Placement Points for the tournament. The KYPSW definition is in the first paragraph under "Scoring" in pawrestlers post above (#575). Likewise, the word "place(s)" cannot be confused with tournament scoring, where "only 8 places" are recognized. KYPSW "places" run all the way to AQ+1.
The language in the rules has changed a bit over the years. Here's something from the early days; "note: A "DNP" finish is considered 1 place away from 8th at 125/149 lbs, from 9th at 141/157/165 lbs, from 10th at 197/285 lbs, from 11th at 174/184 lbs, and from 13th at 133 lbs.", which was from 2015.
tomsc,
If you entered "DNP" in a weight class with with 10 AQ's, for example, you'd be guessing a finish of 12th of lower, not 9th or lower as you suggest.
Don't you mean FUBAR and the results can't be right if I didn't win.Okay, everyone, I've got issues. As if you all weren't already aware.
In year's past, I had 100% confidence in these results. Not so much this year. There was a major SUBAR mid-season, when some of you maybe saw an updated rankings, followed by them disappearing. Well, that led to a massive amount of time spent re-entering massive amounts of data. By the time I was done, I was spent.
So, below are the final* dual season standings, and here is the spreadsheet. If you think there is an error, please use the spreadsheet and let me know where you think the error occurred. The tab that opens has the individual dual scores, beginning at A1. Individual duals are in tabs across the bottom. If I don't hear from anyone by mid-week, we'll call them final.
And, I do apologize for the screw-up. I will have a plan in place to prevent this from happening next year.
Based on previous history I will flame out in the post season. I need to consult with our coaching staff to help me out with that.
I was trying to use kinder, gentler language, and therefore, I used "screwed," instead of the alternative.Don't you mean FUBAR and the results can't be right if I didn't win.
Based on previous history I will flame out in the post season. I need to consult with our coaching staff to help me out with that.
Anyone who didn't play in the dual season should feel free to jump into B1G and NCAA. They will roll up to the grand champion, but each one is also a standalone contest. The prizes are truly unbelievable.
I don't think that statement was untrue.I always have to acknowledge when something has me ROTFLMAO.
B1G Championship
125: 2, 0
133: 1, 1.5
141: 1, 1
149: 5, 0
157: 4, 0
165: 8, 0
174: 1, 1
184: 1, 2
197: 2, 0
285: 3, 3
125: 2, 0
133: 1, 1.5
141: 1, 1
149: 5, 0
157: 4, 0
165: 8, 0
174: 1, 1
184: 1, 2
197: 2, 0
285: 3, 3
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B1G Tournament
125: 2, 0
133: 1, 2
141: 1, 1.5
149: 5, 0
157: 2, 0
165: 7, 0
174: 1, 0
184: 1, 1
197: 1, 0
285: 2, 2
125: 2, 0
133: 1, 2
141: 1, 1.5
149: 5, 0
157: 2, 0
165: 7, 0
174: 1, 0
184: 1, 1
197: 1, 0
285: 2, 2
B1GS:
125: 3, 0
133: 1, 2.5
141: 1, 1
149: 6, 0
157: 4, 0
165: 8, 0
174: 1, 2
184: 1, 2
197: 1, 1
285: 2, 2.5
125: 3, 0
133: 1, 2.5
141: 1, 1
149: 6, 0
157: 4, 0
165: 8, 0
174: 1, 2
184: 1, 2
197: 1, 1
285: 2, 2.5
