DDS has a groin pull which is very easily aggravated. Totally different.
And showing him doing some very miner movements doesn’t cause the team to the west to change game preparations.
Football Latest on QB Drew Allar's injury status for Saturday's game
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And showing him doing some very miner movements doesn’t cause the team to the west to change game preparations.
We are only seeing a small glimpse/sample size of Allar practicing. Really we don't know. All this speculation is interesting banter but 10 second video clips tell us very little beyond the fact he is indeed practicing and there is a possibility he could start and play. And no, not a Lloyd Christmas "you're telling me I've got a shot", type of thing.
I agree that losing to Minnesota would be unacceptable but a lot of things are unacceptable. Like BGSU leading at half and being an onside kick away from a shot to tie. Or trailing USC 20-6 at half and needing a bad throw by Moss and a couple of close calls going our way to get into OT.
PSU should win but it's not a gimme
In the past, OSU/PSU would be an enormous game ... the loser of which would basically lose all interest in anything meaningful thereafter, for the rest of the regular season
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Currently, OSU/PSU is a huge game ... the loser of which still has substantial interest, and everything is still meaningful thereafter for the rest of the regular season.
And, in all likelihood, both these squads end up still having an enormous game (or two, or three, or four) AFTER the regular season is over.
Net gain in magnitude throughout the season.
It's so much better with an expanded playoff. So much.
Yes I agree. The expanded playoff sustains interest throughout the whole season. If it was a 4 team playoff still, then if we lost on Saturday that would be it. No possibility of making the playoff or being in the hunt for a NC.
I just hope Allar opts out of this game and the rest of the season to protect himself for the NFL draft.
So if there was still a 4 team playoff and PSU lost this weekend, you wouldn't watch the rest of their season?
I don't think that is how it works, or how it has ever worked. Unless you are a bandwagon, fair weather fan.
Penn State can win this game with Pribula.
But we still won those games--I don't care how we win as long as we win. Any win is acceptable
I know you have a point underneath that snarky post ... but you'll have to state it more clearly. Use your words.
Similarly, someone could call you a bandwagon or fair weather (sic) fan because you don't think this PSU/OSU game is as meaningful as past ones.
Both of those characterizations would be vapid, and unhelpful.
We lose to both OSU and Minny and we are def OUT.. we beat OSU but lose to Minny we are still in.. actually 1 loss after an OSU win and we are still
Ok… clearly this Saturdays game on so may levels.. is one of the biggest we have had in the last 10 years at PSU..
He didn't say he wouldn't watch. He said the season would essentially be over which is accurate and why the old system never worked.
Agreed. And you'd have tOSU and Oregon in the B1G championship game assuming O wins out. That could leave tOSU, Indy and PSU all with one loss but tOSU would have beaten them all one-on-one. That, then, leaves us in a shootout versus Indy for the third spot.
Lets just beat tOSU and we don't have to worry about it.
Wait, so Drew Allar threw a high pass in practice, and now we are doomed?
Got it. SMH...
Got it. SMH...
I've been a PSU fan for decades and I NEVER lost interest after a loss. I was bummed out but I was still interested.
- A 1 loss team still had a chance (82 loss to Alabama)
- I always rooted for a New Year's Bowl game
- I cheered for a team that was told they couldn't compete with southern speed (SEC)
- I was excited about finishing ranked 3rd in 1981, 1985, 1991, & 2005
- Other years I rooted for a top 10 finish or a NY6 Bowl
I will admit that bowl games started losing their luster a couple of years ago when players with NFL aspirations started opting out. I also fear that this year will be worse. Assume that PSU misses the playoff at 10-2. Who wants to watch a bowl game where PSU plays without Allar, Singleton, Allen, Warren, Carter, etc?
Regular season games aren't meaningless--the significance is just much less. Auburn can be happy about beating Bama because it hurts their chances to make the playoff--being a spoiler still matters but the Iron Bowl isn't the same when the teams aren't elite. The Backyard Brawl isn't exciting--do you care about it? It's also why they're smart to play it earlier in the year when they can still have some meaning.
Bowl games are meaningless--if we miss the playoffs why would any of them play unless they decide to return next year? Even if they are returning they shouldn't play--why risk injury?
I don't understand why you were "excited" about finishing 3rd? What difference did it make where some voters put us?
In 1982 a one-loss team had a chance but in other years an undefeated Penn State didn't have a chance
The NYD bowl/top 10 finish is just--weird but to each their own. I think that's still not having accepted there's a playoff
Was at the UCLA game just can’t see us beating OSU the team was average at best I think this is a 2 touchdown game
Did you watch Ohio State at home against Nebraska because if Penn State vs UCLA scared you...
He's being funny (mocking those that sit out of bowl games) but why isn't Allar going pro? He'll be a second round pick at worst next year
Fair enough but even if you don't think he should go in that range that's what likely will happen.
I didn't think Hack should have been a second round pick but knew someone would take him on Day 2
Hack's got more upside than any QB in this class--he's going to look phenomenal at a pro day/combine in shorts and a teeshirt and a GM/coach will fall in love. There isn't a throw he can't make.
IMO--he's easily the best QB we've had since Collins. Even his accuracy is over 70% this year. I just don't know what some people expect from him. If anyone watched Texas-Georgia (with 3 future 1st round QBs) I think it became obvious how impressive Drew is.
I kind of agree, his running threat helps creat opportunities and puts pressure on a defense. What scares me is with Beau, the possibility of turnovers also increases. Poor exchanges and interceptions are a real possibility.
Not publicly but has any of the elite underclassmen really hinted at it?
I'd love Drew to come back--I just don't see it. If he has a 3rd round grade or better it's time to go
People expect an aerial show with a 5 star QB. If we had TOSU’s receivers maybe we would get that. However, we have two good backs and a great tight end and an offensive coordinator that plays to his strengths. Doesn’t mean Drew is not elite, simply means he is in an offense that plays to its strengths.
And, unlike most elite QBs, Drew is willing to be conservative and run a ball control offense without complaining
I would watch but that is not what I'm saying. In a 4 team playoff format there was just about zero room for error. If we were to lose on Saturday it is almost a lock we would not make the 4 team playoff. If we had lost to USC on 10/12 then we probably would have done serious damage to any hope of making the playoff. The new format allows for a loss or two and sustains interest throughout the season even if we have a loss. Thst is great in my mind. Another way to look at it is with one loss we still control our own destiny. Before with one loss we then had to depend on the dominoes falling our way. Remember 2016? Was that fun to get aced out of the playoff?
Think it depends on who he sees coming back and how far PSU goes into the playoffs this year...and of course if our OC stays around..
And how much money we find for him?
Maybe...I think all the OSU kids made a mistake coming back so I'd say the same about Allar even though, selfishly, I'd be thrilled.
Yup, just have to hope that any mistakes from Beau result in incomplete passes or recovering our own fumble like on the one mesh screwup last week.
I figured Allar would play and it looks like he probably will. Hopefully he gained some confidence in that knee this week and realizes that's it's stable enough not to baby it. I'd still prefer Beau over an injured Drew but I'll be hopeful with either of them.
yep. we can win. And yep, turnovers are a much higher risk.
I'd also say that Wisconsin wasn't prepared for Beau and tOSU will be and with far greater athletes. The first time Allar faced that, he and the team wilted. He's got that experience under his belt. Beau does not. That is a very tough ask.
Pribula has played plenty. Stop being negative. Thank God the players don't act like you guys.
No, he hasn't.
He's attempted 44 passes in his career. Few against a quality team.
DA has attempted 613.
That isn't to say he won't be successful. A lot depends on how close to 100% DA is. We don't know and probably never will know. I trust the coaches to make that call. But IMHO experience, in big games, matters.
