Nolf Vs. IMar

[Tom McAndrew]

As indicated earlier, Nolf is a RS freshman this year, which is exactly what IMar was last year.

IMar got a major, TF, or pin in 24 of his 35. His two closest decisions were to James Green. He defeated him 2-0 in a dual, and 3-2 in the NCAA semis. His other closest decisions came in the Midlands finals were he defeated Cody Pack (South Dakota St.) 6-3, and in the Roadrunner finals were he defeated Max Hvolbek (Stanford) 9-6.

Generally when you get 2 elite wrestlers going at it, there's not a lot of scoring, as each is difficult to take down, and they're wary of taking shots unless there is a clear opening.

Then again, we could get lucky and be treated to an all-out, high scoring battle. IMar only had one match like that last year. In the Roadrunner semis, he defeated Alex Elder (Oregon St.), 18-13.

FWIW, IMar has been even more dominant this season. He's TFed or pinned every opponent but 2. On the flip side, the competition he's faced hasn't been all that stellar. His decisions were 2-0 over Oliver Pierce (Ariz. St), and 11-5 over JoJo Smith (Okla. St.) in the Reno Tournament of Champions.

 

[hlstone]

So you are writing that Nolf has a chance?

 

[KFM74]

Thanks for the info Tom. Very informative. I, like another poster said, have gone back and watched the Nolf Green match again. Perhaps Nolf will keep this real close and maybe even pull out a V. One can only hope.

 

[RoarLions1]

Witnessed every Martinez match at Big Ten's and NCAA's, and I saw a wrestler with a gear that few have. He could go along looking like an above average wrestler, and then BANG, takedown, reversal, back points, whatever. Simply amazing, one minute a very good wrestler, the next a GREAT wrestler. I'd be interested in jto's or NoVa's perspective, others too, whoever saw him in person.

Nolf is not quite the same, more active, great motor (better? not sure), and I believe a more diverse offense. Point is, he's not chopped liver. Almost ready to call this one a toss-up, almost... just can't get past that "extra gear" thing.

Btw, Frey had the first takedown against Martinez in their bout at Big Ten's last year. I know it ended in a TF, but I believe Nolf will have opportunities to score.

 

[rakes6293]

I was at the Big Tens last year and I will say that IMar was very impressive. And I follow Penn State for everymatch and was at the NLO to see Nolf he is also very impressive. I have to think that IMar can and will beat him. But i will not be overly suprised if Nolf beats IMar. Its gonna be fun to see how they do against each other because i dont think that either has gone up against an opponent thats the same caliber of each other

 

[NoVa Lion]

Nolf is basically doing what IMar did last season. He's a frosh destroying everyone in front of him. I definitely think Nolf is as good now as IMar was last year at this time but what I have seen of IMar this season he looks like he is even stronger now. To win Nolf will have to overcome that. IMHO, he can but I have IMar as a favorite, maybe 70-30 or so. Either way I think this will be a close match, with the margin being 1-2 points.

 

[TangSoo]

I think if Jason can stay away from giving up any cheap tilt points that this will be a very close match. I think Jason can get to IMAR's and legs take him down. Get out from under. Stay away from any ties that would slow Jason down. Dictate the action. Shoot! IMAR has had a lot of easy matches. Test his motor. Surely Cael and company are preparing Jason to defend the tilts. I'll say 6 -5 Jason.

 

[Lion-around]

I think Nolf will win; I don't think there will be lots of points. I feel this match will track just like the match Nolf had against Virginia Tech (which he won 4-1).

 

[RoarLions1]

So we have;

Nolf will win of course
IMar by decision 11-8
Imar like 10-5/12-7
imar by 3
I think IMAR will win
IMAR by at least (5) the first time they meet
Imar by 5
12-7 IMar
Nolf 5-4
I don't think Jason beats IMar, (but) it certainly wouldn't surprise me
(Nolf) will stick him in the first match up
he (Imar) will beat Nolf this week
IMar wins a close battle by 2-3 pts
I'm taking Nolf
Agreed! (taking Nolf too)
I have no idea who will win
I have IMar by 5-6
Whoever scores the most points should win
My heart says Nolf, my brain says Martinez
ready to call this one a toss-up
IMar can and will beat him....not overly suprised if Nolf beats IMar
close match, with the margin being 1-2 points
I'll say 6 -5 Jason
I think Nolf will win

Which blind squirrel will find a nut?

 

[lionlover]

As indicated earlier, Nolf is a RS freshman this year, which is exactly what IMar was last year.11-5 over JoJo Smith (Okla. St.) in the Reno Tournament of Champions.

That's a much more convincing win over a very good common opponent. I am going with IMar.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

IMAR in a ride-out. This time.
If the match were in Rec Hall, I'd go with Nolf in OT.

 

[El-Jefe]

IMAR in a ride-out. This time.
If the match were in Rec Hall, I'd go with Nolf in OT.

If the match were in Rec Hall, Martinez would face a long bus ride and average officials. Wait, that's just for Ohio State. Never mind.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

So we have;

Nolf will win of course
IMar by decision 11-8
Imar like 10-5/12-7
imar by 3
I think IMAR will win
IMAR by at least (5) the first time they meet
Imar by 5
12-7 IMar
Nolf 5-4
I don't think Jason beats IMar, (but) it certainly wouldn't surprise me
(Nolf) will stick him in the first match up
he (Imar) will beat Nolf this week
IMar wins a close battle by 2-3 pts
I'm taking Nolf
Agreed! (taking Nolf too)
I have no idea who will win
I have IMar by 5-6
Whoever scores the most points should win
My heart says Nolf, my brain says Martinez
ready to call this one a toss-up
IMar can and will beat him....not overly suprised if Nolf beats IMar
close match, with the margin being 1-2 points
I'll say 6 -5 Jason
I think Nolf will win

Which blind squirrel will find a nut?

They will both go for the same move at the same time, bang heads and both fail concussion protocol.

 

[El-Jefe]

They will both go for the same move at the same time, bang heads and both fail concussion protocol.

The old double count out! You working for Vince McMahon?

 

[PSU-Knocker]

The old double count out! You working for Vince McMahon?

 

[RoarLions1]

They will both go for the same move at the same time, bang heads and both fail concussion protocol.

The old double count out! You working for Vince McMahon?

Did a search and saw some interesting clips, mostly MMA double knockouts. For those botanists out there, a Double Knockout is also a rose!!

 

[KFM74]

For those botanists out there, a Double Knockout is also a rose!!

Not what I anticipated learning from this board today. But I learned something indeed. Thx

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

It is really hard to predict. The one thing I have seen from Nolf is that his frenetic pace sometimes compromises his positioning. I think IMar will be able to capitalize on those momentary lapses. You just never know, though. The only time I have seen Nolf slow down his pace was in the Scuffle finals. IMar certainly has the ability to slow him down like JoJo Smith did. I don't think Jason beats IMar...that said, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

It's only hard to predict if you're a PSU fan. IMar majors him or comes close to it.

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

IMar may become a 4x NCAA Champion. He is that good. I expect he will beat Nolf this week. What happens at Big Tens and NCAAs will depend on how much Jason improves and learns from this first bout. He has two months to close any gap. While it might not be noticeable to us fans, Coach Casey said on the radio the other day that Nolf has improved tremendously since the beginning of the season. If he keeps that up, who knows what's possible?

Does IMar have 2 months to increase it or is that not an option?

 

[Chickenman Testa]

It's only hard to predict if you're a PSU fan. IMar majors him or comes close to it.

After seeing what he did to poor Brian Murphy, my 5 point victory prediction for Imar is looking miserly.

I shouldn't be surprised, but man did he manhandle Murphy.

 

[Lyco1990]

I'm a homer, however, this is where the PSU room pays dividends IMHO. Imar is physical and awesome, working with Zain will work to Jason's advantage. I expected Nolf to be really good this season and was mistaken. He is awesome as well. I believe these two will split the season 2-1.

 

[mike tognetti]

It's only hard to predict if you're a PSU fan. IMar majors him or comes close to it.

I'm all in with Papabear.

 

[manmythlegend1]

I'm all in with Papabear.

I'm Shocked....so unlike you Mike picking against PSU

But That being said, I watched the Murphy Match and all I can say is "WOW"

 

[dunkej01]

Willie picked Nolf 8-7 on yesterday's FRL.

By picking the upset ..........not unlike any other fearless forecaster does in any other sport.....has led to a call for Willie to hand in his credentials from the wrestling peanut gallery.

What a fun season this has been and surely will be the next two months!

 

[garw]

Going with the Nolferator in a tightly contested match with a TD with 18 seconds to go to seal the deal!

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Willie picked Nolf 8-7 on yesterday's FRL.

By picking the upset ..........not unlike any other fearless forecaster does in any other sport.....has led to a call for Willie to hand in his credentials from the wrestling peanut gallery.

What a fun season this has been and surely will be the next two months!

Remember the rotten tomatoes Willie had to dodge when he picked Suriano and Hall to go to Penn State.

 

[dunkej01]

It looks like we in the NE will be snowed in this weekend. Also since this match is on BTN I would hope the wrestling community tunes in so this match gets the ratings it deserves.

 

[purescurve]

After seeing what he did to poor Brian Murphy, my 5 point victory prediction for Imar is looking miserly.

I shouldn't be surprised, but man did he manhandle Murphy.

he did manhandle him after he almost got pinned. I expect nolf will put him in the same position but will be able to keep him there,

 

[NoVa Lion]

he did manhandle him after he almost got pinned. I expect nolf will put him in the same position but will be able to keep him there,

Huh? Imar never got close to getting pinned or even taken down.

 

[El-Jefe]

Willie picked Nolf 8-7 on yesterday's FRL.

By picking the upset ..........not unlike any other fearless forecaster does in any other sport.....has led to a call for Willie to hand in his credentials from the wrestling peanut gallery.

What a fun season this has been and surely will be the next two months!

Suckers. I'm not questioning Willie's sincerity, but will point out that he played them like a fiddle.

Willie couldn't have played them any better if he made that prediction while dressed up like Jesse The Body Ventura, sequined robe, feather boa, called them all fat and ugly and stupid, and threatened to steal their wives AND their girlfriends.

(In case anyone didn't get the hint: photoshop opportunity for anyone with better skills than me.)

 

[El-Jefe]

So you are writing that Nolf has a chance?

 

[purescurve]

Huh? Imar never got close to getting pinned or even taken down.

nova, seems to me there was a situation where murphy had an underhook in then a throw and for a second or two imar was in a precarious position where i feel nolf could of taken advantage of better than murphy did. I've been looking for the video to prove my point but can't seem to find it. If anyone has it I would appreciate a relook. thanks

 

[Grass]

Not taking anything away from IMAR, but Murphy hasn't looked good at all this year. Didn't he get injured earlier this year and miss a lot of time? I saw him against the Ohio State back up and he looked average at best.

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

nova, seems to me there was a situation where murphy had an underhook in then a throw and for a second or two imar was in a precarious position where i feel nolf could of taken advantage of better than murphy did. I've been looking for the video to prove my point but can't seem to find it. If anyone has it I would appreciate a relook. thanks

Murphy briefly had him in position to bulldog him over but it didn't look like he even tried to capitalize. Murphy has been banged up and it shows. He had very little fight in him that match.

 

[NoVa Lion]

nova, seems to me there was a situation where murphy had an underhook in then a throw and for a second or two imar was in a precarious position where i feel nolf could of taken advantage of better than murphy did. I've been looking for the video to prove my point but can't seem to find it. If anyone has it I would appreciate a relook. thanks

I remember that now because the Illinois announcers got all excited and used the word pancake, but it was basically nothing. However, I agree from that position Nolf might have been able to take Imar to his back.

 

[purescurve]

I remember that now because the Illinois announcers got all excited and used the word pancake, but it was basically nothing. However, I agree from that position Nolf might have been able to take Imar to his back.

thats it. thanks. can't wait for the match

 

[mike tognetti]

Will be a great match, CP and his Gulibon ranking and now Willie picking Nolf. Sounds like a little homer picks from FLO again. Nolf is a great wrestler but isn't in Martinez League. If anybody wants to make a bet I'm game? Has to be someone that is honest because I want to make sure I can collect. Had a bet from one of your own that didn't follow through with his loss.

 

[lionlover]

Will be a great match, CP and his Gulibon ranking and now Willie picking Nolf. Sounds like a little homer picks from FLO again. Nolf is a great wrestler but isn't in Martinez League. If anybody wants to make a bet I'm game? Has to be someone that is honest because I want to make sure I can collect. Had a bet from one of your own that didn't follow through with his loss.

You do realize that CP was a huge Iowa poster before he worked for Flo?

 

[Onceafish]

Will be a great match, CP and his Gulibon ranking and now Willie picking Nolf. Sounds like a little homer picks from FLO again. Nolf is a great wrestler but isn't in Martinez League. If anybody wants to make a bet I'm game? Has to be someone that is honest because I want to make sure I can collect. Had a bet from one of your own that didn't follow through with his loss.

Papa Bear Slim says IMar by major decision. You say you're all in. So how many points you laying?

 

[nitlion6]

If it wasn't for IMar most of us would be anticipating a title this season for Jason, and the reason for that is Jason is that darn good. Martinez is pretty darn good also. The idea Martinez will shred Jason is beyond silly to the point that it is equal to the idea Jason will take Martinez down 10 times.

I do not expect the typical low scoring match seen when two elite wrestlers compete against each other. Neither one of these two do I expect to wrestle trying hard to not lose. They both I expect will wrestle to win, which should provide some serious wrestling action and entertainment.

I will not be surprised if Martinez wins, but neither will I be shocked if Jason prevails. I do expect whoever scores the last points will be the victor.