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Noteworthy Results and Goldfish Games - Week of Jan 3

Yeah… it takes time to get back into wrestling shape. I don’t know, I think he’s gonna have trouble making it through the year though. What a warrior. Shame his body is breaking down.
assad continuing to look better each time out. feeling optimistic on that front.
 
I needed the Google machine’s help to catch up on Brands Bros latest clowning move:

“We like Brennan Swafford,” Brands added. “Taking him out of redshirt is a no-brainer. o_O

 
I needed the Google machine’s help to catch up on Brands Bros latest clowning move:

“We like Brennan Swafford,” Brands added. “Taking him out of redshirt is a no-brainer. o_O

Sounds like Brands had a secret of his own.
 
fwiw, in 2020 i saw him wrestle his first match back live against covaciu and he looked much worse than that and nearly lost. he thumped mark hall a month later. the brace is concerning though.
Agreed. Underhooks on that shoulder and forcing him shoot with that lead are going to be coached.

I can't imagine he will have either the stamina or HP he once had unfortunately.
 
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Agreed. Underhooks on that shoulder and forcing him shoot with that lead are going to be coached.

I can't imagine he will have either the stamina or HP he once had unfortunately.
Bold prediction (ok, maybe not so bold) but Coach Brands and Swafford better make up quick. I think we are seeing the last few matches of Kems career. I don’t believe he makes it to Nationals and if not, sad ending to a great career.
 
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The swafford meltdown last night is very interesting internetting.

You got mineo playing him like a violin on tweeter.

You got the outer circle on the tHR first hammering him than walking him back as the night drew on.

What a wonderful mess.
 
What a wonderful mess.
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The swafford meltdown last night is very interesting internetting.

You got mineo playing him like a violin on tweeter.

You got the outer circle on the tHR first hammering him than walking him back as the night drew on.

What a wonderful mess.
I experienced some personal growth last night I’m proud of myself even if no one else is. The old Jts would have been over there all night stirring up trouble and sticking in daggers wherever he could find a spot. The new me on the other hand stayed away to avoid the temptation. But I did have to get up early this morning. That may or may not have played a role in my decision. I’ll let you guys wonder if it did. Lmao
 
Was the Brand brand just joshing Joshua when the redshirt was pulled?
Someone made the point that wrestling attached at the Scuffle meant Iowa paid for the trip. That's travel, hotel, meals, etc. It looked to me like the bigger issue might have been that the wrestler and his family believed until the last moment that he was wrestling. He had picked out his entry music and there were articles written about his debut. A failure to communicate clearly by the coaching staff, it would seem. But we don't have all the info and we never will.
 
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The swafford meltdown last night is very interesting internetting.

You got mineo playing him like a violin on tweeter.

You got the outer circle on the tHR first hammering him than walking him back as the night drew on.

What a wonderful mess.
Every year I think the drama with that team has peaked, another season rolls around and tops it. Their fans must find it exhausting.
 
Yeah… it takes time to get back into wrestling shape. I don’t know, I think he’s gonna have trouble making it through the year though. What a warrior. Shame his body is breaking down.

Yeah watch Swafford hit the portal or quit outright, only to see Kem go down to re-injury once he starts to face some real competition.

Definitely a illustration that Brand's genius at times is limited by impulsiveness and a focus on the moment. You can't help to wonder if he wasn't reacting to Mineos post just to burn him, and losing sight of what's best for the team realative to Swafford, which granted is of lesser concern. Unlikely, but sad if there is even a shred of truth to it. The optics created by the curious timing are not favorable. It could have been handled differently for sure.

I don't suspect an explanation is forthcoming, but at least it is entertaining from our perspective. The Titanic that is the national championship team returning all 10 has definitely hit the iceberg (Spencer), but the band is still playing, everything is going to work out just fine ....
 
For all the jokes about the cesspool, the vast majority empathized with the brother and at least recognized communication should have been better.
 
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Idk if we can make that conclusion from tonight. Gable beat him 16-6 and 15-6 last year. Maybe if he got turned.
fwiw, i agree with him. i posted a more detailed explanation on HR in the grades thread, but to sum up, my concern is that instead of being the best version of big tony, he's made himself an inferior version of parris or kerk. i'd pick kerk today.
 
Definitely a illustration that Brand's genius at times is limited by impulsiveness and a focus on the moment. You can't help to wonder if he wasn't reacting to Mineos post just to burn him, and losing sight of what's best for the team realative to Swafford, which granted is of lesser concern. Unlikely, but sad if there is even a shred of truth to it. The optics created by the curious timing are not favorable. It could have been handled differently for sure.

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I had a similar thought. This situation perfectly illustrates the main difference between Brands and Cael. Cael strategizes a plan with the big picture in mind. Brands flys by the seat of his pants. All of the insiders on HR are saying this was Kem’s decision at the last minute.

So Brands pulls a kids redshirt, tells his whole family that he’ll be wrestling, and then gets his plan vetoed by his athlete at the last hour. LOL. Can’t imagine Cael let’s one of his athletes veto the plan they have in place.
 
I had a similar thought. This situation perfectly illustrates the main difference between Brands and Cael. Cael strategizes a plan with the big picture in mind. Brands flys by the seat of his pants. All of the insiders on HR are saying this was Kem’s decision at the last minute.

So Brands pulls a kids redshirt, tells his whole family that he’ll be wrestling, and then gets his plan vetoed by his athlete at the last hour. LOL. Can’t imagine Cael let’s one of his athletes veto the plan they have in place.
Cael's plan was to redshirt Mark Hall. Mark vetoed that plan by playing the "you told me it would be up to me" card.
 
I had a similar thought. This situation perfectly illustrates the main difference between Brands and Cael. Cael strategizes a plan with the big picture in mind. Brands flys by the seat of his pants. All of the insiders on HR are saying this was Kem’s decision at the last minute.

So Brands pulls a kids redshirt, tells his whole family that he’ll be wrestling, and then gets his plan vetoed by his athlete at the last hour. LOL. Can’t imagine Cael let’s one of his athletes veto the plan they have in place.
Exactly. It's the chess and checkers analogy. Cael is playing on a totally different level than Brands.
 
I had a similar thought. This situation perfectly illustrates the main difference between Brands and Cael. Cael strategizes a plan with the big picture in mind. Brands flys by the seat of his pants. All of the insiders on HR are saying this was Kem’s decision at the last minute.

So Brands pulls a kids redshirt, tells his whole family that he’ll be wrestling, and then gets his plan vetoed by his athlete at the last hour. LOL. Can’t imagine Cael let’s one of his athletes veto the plan they have in place.
This is the issue.

Tom Brands is just not that smart of a person. He has passion & is a good man, but he’s not that smart.

If wrestling didn’t exist, Tom would probably be a high school gym teacher - and brother Terry would be living in a van down by the river.
 
Cory Clark wore a similar shoulder harness his Sr year and he did okay.

Kem faces his 1st top-20 wrestler when he sees Ethan Smith in 2 weeks, then he'll have a tough stretch after that. I guess we'll see soon enough.
 
This is the issue.

Tom Brands is just not that smart of a person. He has passion & is a good man, but he’s not that smart.

If wrestling didn’t exist, Tom would probably be a high school gym teacher - and brother Terry would be living in a van down by the river.
Shots fired
 
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I had a similar thought. This situation perfectly illustrates the main difference between Brands and Cael. Cael strategizes a plan with the big picture in mind. Brands flys by the seat of his pants. All of the insiders on HR are saying this was Kem’s decision at the last minute.

So Brands pulls a kids redshirt, tells his whole family that he’ll be wrestling, and then gets his plan vetoed by his athlete at the last hour. LOL. Can’t imagine Cael let’s one of his athletes veto the plan they have in place.
Impulsivity definitely seems to be an issue with the Brandses. Sometimes it’s cute, but too often is in boorish territory.
 
Cael's plan was to redshirt Mark Hall. Mark vetoed that plan by playing the "you told me it would be up to me" card.

Totally different. The kid that didn't wrestle had his shirt pulled at the Scuffle. He could have gone unattached. To put the icing on the cake he was told (and it was published) he was going to debut at Carver last night.

Imagine being a transfer in as a Kem insurance policy. Say he gets at 20% Scholy. If Kem goes this year he shirts and wrestles next year (2 years of aid), if Kem can't he burns his shirt and gets to wrestle.

If there was any chance of Kem going this year, let alone on the 10th of January, you don't pull a kid's shirt a week earlier.

Now the kid is stuck at Iowa, his shirt is gone, of Kem stays healthy he doesn't get to wrestle, and next year lacking eligibility, he has to pay for his own tuition 100%. Most kids would at least question why the F@#$ did I come here in the first place?

The ONLY weak rationale I can muster is maybe Brands wants them to go dual duty hoping Swafford gets enough quality wins that if Kem can't make it, Swaf both qualifies and gets a seed for insurance? Fat chance. If that's the case then you lay it out for the kid ahead of time, or he should have had his shirt pulled in November - which obviously didn't happen.
 
During the 165 match one of the brands was rocking back and forth. Reminded me of an old hen I had. I wish she could of produced like that...
 
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Totally different. The kid that didn't wrestle had his shirt pulled at the Scuffle. He could have gone unattached. To put the icing on the cake he was told (and it was published) he was going to debut at Carver last night.

Imagine being a transfer in as a Kem insurance policy. Say he gets at 20% Scholy. If Kem goes this year he shirts and wrestles next year (2 years of aid), if Kem can't he burns his shirt and gets to wrestle.

If there was any chance of Kem going this year, let alone on the 10th of January, you don't pull a kid's shirt a week earlier.

Now the kid is stuck at Iowa, his shirt is gone, of Kem stays healthy he doesn't get to wrestle, and next year lacking eligibility, he has to pay for his own tuition 100%. Most kids would at least question why the F@#$ did I come here in the first place?

The ONLY weak rationale I can muster is maybe Brands wants them to go dual duty hoping Swafford gets enough quality wins that if Kem can't make it, Swaf both qualifies and gets a seed for insurance? Fat chance. If that's the case then you lay it out for the kid ahead of time, or he should have had his shirt pulled in November - which obviously didn't happen.
Context.
I am very much aware of how that played out. My comment about Mark was in response to crablegs pointing out Cael would not allow an athlete to screw with the "big picture plan". Cael has allowed the athlete's desires to supersede the "big picture plan" several times.
 
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