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Noteworthy Results and Goldfish Games - Week of Jan 3

Context.
I am very much aware of how that played out. My comment about Mark was in response to crablegs pointing out Cael would not allow an athlete to screw with the "big picture plan". Cael has allowed the athlete's desires to supersede the "big picture plan" several times.
I’m not sure it’s the same. Mark told Cael he wanted to go, and Cael adjusted the plan. I don’t think Mark went up to Cael after weigh ins in Carver Hawkeye arena and told him he’s wrestling. Plans can be adjusted as things change. I’m sure Cael and Mark sat down after Scuffle and talked about how to meet Mark’s needs as well as to consider the long-term ramification. Last nights decision couldn’t have been more different.
 
The guy is playing victim. He had several Freudian slips but I guess a " pass the hat " would bring him off the ledge.
 
I’m not sure it’s the same. Mark told Cael he wanted to go, and Cael adjusted the plan. I don’t think Mark went up to Cael after weigh ins in Carver Hawkeye arena and told him he’s wrestling. Plans can be adjusted as things change. I’m sure Cael and Mark sat down after Scuffle and talked about how to meet Mark’s needs as well as to consider the long-term ramification. Last nights decision couldn’t have been more different.
So you miss Cael and you hate the Brands. What's new? Personally I feel you should be more concerned with your own Hawkeye coaches.
 
Sorry, one year is all you’ve got. No matter how many “what ifs” fill your tiny brain, it is still only one title and that won’t change.
My tiny brain says Iowa beat Penn St in the dual in 19-20 and won the Big 10 tourney. Then won Big 10’s and NCAA’s last year so by my count Penn St hasn’t beaten Iowa since the 18-19 NCAA tourney.
 
Another Iowa thread on BWI. Credit youz guyz for consistency.

Current tourney edge PSU; current dual edge Iowa. It’s a long way to Tipperary, best three months of wrestling.
 
So you miss Cael and you hate the Brands. What's new? Personally I feel you should be more concerned with your own Hawkeye coaches.
Hmmm, miss Cael? That’s a new one. No fan of Cael, but can’t argue he is the best coach in the game light years ahead of the field.
 
I love running a chainsaw. It truly can be very therapeutic! I know some here agree.

You guys can pick up the logs and carry the water. Thanks
Probably. I'll give you that. But I won't give you the intellectual context because that is not how he used it. You know this.

It's 2022 now so I guess your wrong take odometer was reset.
 
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Probably. I'll give you that. But I won't give you the intellectual context because that is not how he used it. You know this.

It's 2022 now so I guess your wrong take odometer was reset.
I was just saying how I get enjoyment out of doing it. Nothing more. Don't look to far into it there dunke
 
My tiny brain says Iowa beat Penn St in the dual in 19-20 and won the Big 10 tourney. Then won Big 10’s and NCAA’s last year so by my count Penn St hasn’t beaten Iowa since the 18-19 NCAA tourney.
National Championships are all that really matter. It’ll be years before Iowa sees another.

Barring injuries (which often happen), it’s Penn State this year and next. After that Ohio State will be Penn State’s biggest threat for a while.
 
You guys don’t count duals or Big 10 titles? I will remember that.
There have been years that Penn State lost a dual or lost Big10’s and still won the National Championship, were talking championships here and in the last 2 years, Iowa has only won 1 - as painful as that might be for you.
 
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You guys don’t count duals or Big 10 titles? I will remember that.
They’re fun but not terribly important. It’s all about NCAAs and Cael knows that. Get your guys ready for the big tournament. Everything else is prep work and no one is even in the same universe as Cael when it comes to getting the most from his guys at NCAAs.
 
Brands screws a local kid proving once again he will do anything to give the crowd a thrill even if it involves lying to a kid to get him to give up his red shirt just so he can pretend he will let the kid wrestle. Terrible job!
It was Kemerer’s decision which he’s earned.
 
The guy is playing victim. He had several Freudian slips but I guess a " pass the hat " would bring him off the ledge.
Maybe a canned food drive at the next home match? They’ll need to have pictures of what they’re accepting though. Last time they did it hawk fans donated like 8 cans of actual food and a lot of 6 packs of budget beer and tins of chew
 
National Championships are all that really matter. It’ll be years before Iowa sees another.

Barring injuries (which often happen), it’s Penn State this year and next. After that Ohio State will be Penn State’s biggest threat for a while.
So you don’t care if Penn St wins the dual on Jan 28 or the Big 10 tourney? Interesting. You’re original post was comparing Cael and Penn St to Brands and Iowa. Penn St hasn’t beaten Iowa in a dual or tourney in 2 years. I know it’s hard for you to fathom but those are the facts even if you change the subject to only national titles.
 
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So you don’t care if Penn St wins the dual on Jan 28 or the Big 10 tourney? Interesting. You’re original post was comparing Cael and Penn St to Brands and Iowa. Penn St hasn’t beaten Iowa in a dual or tourney in 2 years. I know it’s hard for you to fathom but those are the facts even if you change the subject to only national titles.
I care about the Dual but in the big scheme of things it’s not that important. You seem to be suffering from the same problem as your head coach. He puts the emphasis on the wrong things. He should seek Cael’s advice on how to do it.
 
So you don’t care if Penn St wins the dual on Jan 28 or the Big 10 tourney? Interesting. You’re original post was comparing Cael and Penn St to Brands and Iowa. Penn St hasn’t beaten Iowa in a dual or tourney in 2 years. I know it’s hard for you to fathom but those are the facts even if you change the subject to only national titles.
We want to beat Iowa in the dual, but that's not the goal, and hasn't been for a long time.

B10 tournament is even less important. Only 2 outcomes matter: qualification and health.

That's not changing the subject, that's facing reality.

People who make the B10 Tournament team race important:

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Not unjustified, but nonetheless... I doubt he wrestles any top 10 kids before Bigs

If that's the case he'll have just 5 matches in before Bigs.

IMO, Brands will put his best line-up on the mat when we visit Carver. Maybe winning the NCAAs is goal #1, but protecting their home turf is a close 2nd for the Hawks.

If given a choice between winning Bigs or beating PSU at Carver, I think they would choose the latter.
 
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I care about the Dual but in the big scheme of things it’s not that important. You seem to be suffering from the same problem as your head coach. He puts the emphasis on the wrong things. He should seek Cael’s advice on how to do it.
I simply stated Penn St hasn’t beat Iowa in a team competition in 2 years. Can’t be disputed but you can continue deflecting.
 
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We want to beat Iowa in the dual, but that's not the goal, and hasn't been for a long time.

B10 tournament is even less important. Only 2 outcomes matter: qualification and health.

That's not changing the subject, that's facing reality.

People who make the B10 Tournament team race important:

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Great minds…That scene (and the one of TomTom tug-o’-warring the trophy was the first thing I thought of when the question of caring about B1G Championships was posed.

Over time, people remember National Championships, not conference championships . . . unless there was a memorable peculiarity in one of the latter.
 
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Ok, so I get your point, but the quibble is over semantics. You maintain PSU hasn’t won an on-the-mat competition vs. Iowa in 2 years, which is correct. NittanyChris maintains that the only part of that streak that matters is the 1 National Championship, which is hardly a streak (and also correct). Another contention is that we enjoy winning everything but at the end of the day really only care aboot the National Championship, which is also correct.
 
Great minds…That scene (and the one of TomTom tug-o’-warring the trophy was the first thing I thought of when the question of caring about B1G Championships was posed.

Over time, people remember National Championships, not conference championships . . . unless there was a memorable peculiarity in one of the latter.
You mean this one?

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Though I'm partial to this pic -- because the dude in the background makes it look like the Tressel Trophy, which would be 100% on brand for the Big Ten.

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Ok, so I get your point, but the quibble is over semantics. You maintain PSU hasn’t won an on-the-mat competition vs. Iowa in 2 years, which is correct. NittanyChris maintains that the only part of that streak that matters is the 1 National Championship, which is hardly a streak (and also correct). Another contention is that we enjoy winning everything but at the end of the day really only care aboot the National Championship, which is also correct.
Cael is a great coach, no doubt. But if Brands is so bad, like a checkers player against a chess master, how has Iowa ever beat Penn St? He must be doing something right to beat the Grandmaster over 2 years of competition.
 
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