Anybody notice Cael forgot to take a moment to tweet Mendez is pretty darn good just not skilled enough to overcome Beau's own skills and unique toughness.
Ohio State dual thread - Feb 14
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Wearing something that prevents free and fluid motion of a knee doesn't seem like an advantage.
You can use the 2 duals a weekend count as one twice during the season.
Who wins the other 1 time out of 100?
He would need 4 matches at the Big 12 tourney to get to 15. I believe the Big 12 draws for byes like the Big 10 used too instead of giving the top 2 automatic byes. If he gets a first-round opponent and then wins all 4 for the Big 12 title he will be at exactly 15 and be RPI eligible.
It's 8 seeded and 6 randomly drawn in. So there's a chance he doesn't get 4. I posted something about this and how Mendez and Bartlett could be the 2 & 3 at NCAA if Mendez wins the big 10 and Alirez gets 15 and is undefeated
Doesn't have to be a sum of 100, right? Though that is definitely the norm.
He don’t like tough addition.
Wrestlestat calculates RPI even if someone has less than 15 matches. I don't know if it's 100% accurate but it's pretty close. Right now, Alirez's RPI is 11. I don't see any way his RPI is higher than Mendez or Bartlett. Let's say Mendez beats Bartlett at Big 10's so they each have 1 loss and Alirez goes 15-0 and Alirez is #1 in the coaches rankings. It will come down to how quality wins are split. Mendez would need all 20% to be seeded higher. If Bartlett wins Big 10's and remains undefeated, I see no path for Alirez to be seeded higher because quality wins will be the tiebreaker.
- Head-to-head competition: 25% of the total points
- Quality wins: 20% of the total points
- Coaches ranking: 15% of the total points
- Results against common opponents: 10% of the total points
- Ratings Percentage Index (RPI): 10% of the total points
- Qualifying event placement: 10% of the total points
- Win percentage: 10% of the total points
It wasn't pretty, the usual haters are going to cry about the end of 2nd period exchange but I think Braeden Davis deserves a another shoutout.
I think he was a game time decision, we weighed in Garcia for a reason. The kid has been through a lot the last month and I think has been battling injuries the entire season and clearly it's affected his tank yesterday. He clearly told Cael he's ready to go if needed. The situation at 125 was definitely something he would have had in mind. Imagine if Bouzakis came out and pinned or teched Garcia and Mendez kept the momentum. Then we're looking at a 14-0 and 15-0 deficit. Momentum is a real thing. The 149 match was close (wouldn't be shocked if Shayne is battling something as well)
Against a FIRED up Nic Bouzakis (we know Bouzakis has the talent to beat almost anyone at his best) with all the momentum, Davis demonstrated his high IQ and grit by not getting caught in any of Bouzakis big moves and he got the only 2 takedowns of the match. Didn't get phased at all by the pressure. Braeden extinguished any momentum Ohio State had basically (they absolutely needed 133 to pull some crazy upset) I think we're underestimating how scary it could have been at the half if he didn't wrestle yesterday.
The best part? Kid kept his poker face the entire dual. You can tell he was even cracking jokes with Nick Lee during the long review
I think he was a game time decision, we weighed in Garcia for a reason. The kid has been through a lot the last month and I think has been battling injuries the entire season and clearly it's affected his tank yesterday. He clearly told Cael he's ready to go if needed. The situation at 125 was definitely something he would have had in mind. Imagine if Bouzakis came out and pinned or teched Garcia and Mendez kept the momentum. Then we're looking at a 14-0 and 15-0 deficit. Momentum is a real thing. The 149 match was close (wouldn't be shocked if Shayne is battling something as well)
Against a FIRED up Nic Bouzakis (we know Bouzakis has the talent to beat almost anyone at his best) with all the momentum, Davis demonstrated his high IQ and grit by not getting caught in any of Bouzakis big moves and he got the only 2 takedowns of the match. Didn't get phased at all by the pressure. Braeden extinguished any momentum Ohio State had basically (they absolutely needed 133 to pull some crazy upset) I think we're underestimating how scary it could have been at the half if he didn't wrestle yesterday.
The best part? Kid kept his poker face the entire dual. You can tell he was even cracking jokes with Nick Lee during the long review
I got bored and did the seeding math. Alirez's RPI or lack thereof does not matter at all.
- If Beau wins B10s, it'll be 1 Beau, 2 Alirez, 3 Mendez.
- If Mendez wins B10s, it'll be 1 Alirez, 2 Mendez, 3 Beau.
I also checked the next highest ranked guy from other conferences, just in case. Koderhandt (Navy) finishes below all 3. Criteria-wise he's only close to Alirez -- but needs Alirez to not win B12s to pass him. If Alirez loses a dual but wins B12s, he still gets a higher seed than Koderhandt.
- If Beau wins B10s, it'll be 1 Beau, 2 Alirez, 3 Mendez.
- If Mendez wins B10s, it'll be 1 Alirez, 2 Mendez, 3 Beau.
I also checked the next highest ranked guy from other conferences, just in case. Koderhandt (Navy) finishes below all 3. Criteria-wise he's only close to Alirez -- but needs Alirez to not win B12s to pass him. If Alirez loses a dual but wins B12s, he still gets a higher seed than Koderhandt.
I agree, given his recent situation, he did great to win that match, though the double cradles from the bottom position were quirky and troubling. I think the Davis and Bartlett wins were my favorite parts of the night, though murderer's row (165-197) was fun as well.
Adding onto this -- the points have allocated splits:
- H2H = 25-0, 16.7-8.3, or 12.5-12.5
- QW = 20-0, 15-5, or 10-10
- Rank = 15-0 or 7.5-7.5
- Conf Finish = 10-0 (doesn't say this, but it's gotta be 5-5 for same placement at different conferences)
- Common Opponents = 10-0 (again, gotta be 5-5 for a pure tie)
- Win % = 10-0
- RPI = 10-0
Quality Wins will most likely be a 15-5 split because while Mendez has many more, and against better opponents, Alirez has non-zero.
If Mendez wins B10s, here are their NCAA seeding scores in the simulated matches:
Wrestler | H2H | Quality Wins | Rank | Conf Finish | Common Opponents | Win % | RPI | Total |
Bartlett 2 | 12.5 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 47.5 |
Alirez | 12.5 | 5 | 15 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 52.5 |
Mendez 1 | 12.5 | 15 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 10 | 47.5 |
Alirez | 12.5 | 5 | 15 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 52.5 |
Bartlett 2 | 12.5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 22.5 |
Mendez 1 | 12.5 | 15 | 15 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 77.5 |
Refresher for everyone: NCAA seeds are compiled as a round-robin simulation scored via the seeding criteria. The guy who finishes 32-0 in the sim gets the 1 seed; 31-1 gets the 2; etc. In this case, these are the only 3 guys who can get a top 3 seed (assuming Alirez wins B12s and Beau/Mendez are B10 finalists).
Alirez gets the 1 seed because he beats both Beau and Mendez in the sim. Mendez gets the 2 because he beats Beau in the sim.
Tom Ryan is a good coach and classy person.
No excuses and very honest . The video is good .
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No excuses and very honest . The video is good .
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FWIW:
A poster on the Ohio Wrestling board stated he was told that Sealey had cut significant weight since several days before the match. If accurate, guessing that would have been since Sunday 2/9, when Kasak had to medically forfeit.
Can't account for the veracity of this report, but if accurate it might explain a lot about Sealey's performance.
A poster on the Ohio Wrestling board stated he was told that Sealey had cut significant weight since several days before the match. If accurate, guessing that would have been since Sunday 2/9, when Kasak had to medically forfeit.
Can't account for the veracity of this report, but if accurate it might explain a lot about Sealey's performance.
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Too bad he doesn’t have the emotional intelligence to stay off Twitter/X. That’s where his douche-baggery shinesTom Ryan is a good coach and classy person.
No excuses and very honest . The video is good .
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I don't do Twitter/X , so I wouldn't know.
That would have been a logical guess given he hadn’t been wrestled all year. Even if not true, not worried in the least about him. Just hoping Tyler can be at 100% in 3-4 weeks.
I'm having a hard time confirming this, but I think Jason Tsirtsis won the 149 title in 2014 with a total of three takedowns.
Too funny. Making fun of Flo without making fun of Flo.
Looked lethargic and weak, like you would expect from a big cut ... He was probably walking around the room way above 157 and had cut it 10-15 lbs in a week. Since he has never weighed in, he could probably avoid the descent limits.
He won 4-1 over Bryce Busler (Bloomsburg) with 1 TD, 4-3 over James English (Penn St) with 1 TD, 2-1 OT over Kendric Maple (Oklahoma) with 0 TDs, 2-1 OT over Drake Houdashelt (Missouri) with 0 TDs, and 3-1 OT over Joshua Kindig (Oklahoma St) with 1 TD. You are correct, 3 total TDs to win a National Title.
Message from Cael to Cole? Get in the Cassar diet and workout plan because you're gonna get bigger opponents next year... Maybe buy a couple cows?
Nobody will be surprised by this offender:
Chris Perry 2013:
R1 = 5-4, 0 T2 (2 R2)
R2 = 4-0, 1 T2
Qtrs = 3-2;TB-1, 0 T2 (3 E1)
Semis = 4-2 SV, 1 T2
Finals = 2-1 TB-1, 0 T2
Won the national title with 2 takedowns in 5 matches.
Wow! Did not know this story. Congrats to Brandon, for lots of things.
Luke looked a bit like young Spencer against Piccinini last night, although Luke was much more dominant on his feet before getting stuck.
Brandon McCrone is also not Nick Piccinnini. Think Luke is perfectly fine and still a title contender but it’s a loss that will always look weird on the record books
That would be 1.5 titles and 12 losses. Here's hoping for better...
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Well in terms of being stuck, done.
Well in terms of being stuck, done.
I know it would be crazy boring but I think it would be totally b'dass if a guy could win w/o any takedowns. Every match 2-0 or 2-1 with an escape and riding time point.
You’re describing Tony Nelson.😉
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