Don's get so bent out of shape. I was only relating events as I recalled them. Your post does not totally hold water. I did a quick check and found that Sandusky was charged with abuse that began in 1994. He was a coach at Penn State until 1999. If all of this had nothing to do with the football program, why was the program in effect put on trial?
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If you actually want to engage in a dialog about that shitstorm why don't you start another thread about it? Or drag up one of the previous thousands of threads about it. This is not the place for it.
Or, if your motivation is to see this thread moved or deleted then carry on.
This is an excellent question. If you actually want to learn about this, I recommend the following podcast.
Note that neither of the investigative journalist hosts is a Penn Stater (one is actually a Pitt alum)
With the Benefit of Hindsight...
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I certainly don't fault anyone who doesn't want to dive into this (it's something like 80 hours of material) but there are a lot of people who *think* they understand what happened and definitely do not.
Because the Board is the party that enabled Sandusky via their actions, they endeavored to deflect attention from themselves and shift it to the football program. And again, I believe you are incorrect, and full of shit, that Sandusky was found guilty, and convicted, of anything relating to a 1994 incident.
Huge game upcoming this Saturday, but personally I'd prefer to spend the next few days relitigating the Sandusky saga for the 9,000th time. NOT!
I've given you a ton of crap in the past, you might not get it but this topic will go off rails in a heartbeat. And it'll go one for weeks.
Stick to the game stuff.
I didn't bring it up. I jumped in when OSU's abuse problems were brought up. It is all water over the dam. Good luck on Saturday.
I am shocked that you, as an attorney, aren’t more educated on this case. Every attorney I know was fascinated by all the contortions, maneuvering, press distortions, the legal morass, and how terribly the trial itself was executed.
Both sides are crazy
Sandusky is an awful human being that deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison
It also wasn't a football issue but the "powers that be" at Penn State allowed it to be one
Honestly the fact people still try to claim Sandusky is innocent is absolutely insane.
Sandusky is an awful human being that deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison
It also wasn't a football issue but the "powers that be" at Penn State allowed it to be one
Honestly the fact people still try to claim Sandusky is innocent is absolutely insane.
Are there any positional matchups where PSU has the clear advantage? I'm talking our OL vs. their DL, our RB vs. their LBs, etc. Maybe OSU WRs vs. PSU DBs is a push since it's strength on strength, but even then OSU might have an edge given all of the talent they have there. Our TEs might be the key matchup for us. An OSU poster mentioned CBs have been a weaker spot for them, but PSU doesn't have stud WRs this year either to take advantage. This is going to be a tough one, but history says PSU will still keep it close as they tend to do vs. OSU. I'm worried this could still be an OSU blowout though given all of the talent they have, I hope I'm wrong.
That's the only one I could really think of too. But if their DL wins the battle against our OL, Yurcich will keep the TEs in to help with blocking and that could really cost us. This is a disadvantage of having great RBs that are young... they typically aren't as good in pass pro as more experienced players so even if we keep RBs in to help with blocking we still might not be able to release the TEs.
I dont think we have an option but to release the TEs. Yurchich saw how not using the TEs worked vs. Mich. Not gonna make that same mistake. And getting the TEs involved opens things up.
Watch this breakdown of Michigan's defense vs our offense. You will see some of the stuff they did that was very disruptive.
The one play they showed a 4 man rush. Last minute, LBs stepped up for double A gap blitz. 2 DEs bailed into flat zones. Our OL couldn't handle the A gaps and I believe their NT moved Juice straight back. Nourzad whiffed completely and Wormley barely hit his guy and Singleton stepped up but wasn't going to win that block for long. Clifford threw it away but we has no hot route.
The 4th down fade to Washington. Tinsley was open on the outside and would have got a 1st down with a well placed ball. Clifford should have went there.
We ran a QB Power and Wallace just got beat bad on his block. They also blitzed the CB. Clifford tried to go left and something spooked him. Play needed an rpo on it. Might have got the pass to the WR before the safety got down.
To be fair, the fade to PW was a GREAT ball. Clifford put it right where it needed to be. PW got both hands on it. It's a tough catch, but they need him to make that.
It shouldn't have even come to that though -- had Singleton stayed behind the LOS on the original 3rd down play, PSU has 1st and 10 from the UM 24 yard line.
PW should have caught it, but the other throw was a lot easier. Sanristil also played PW really well on the play. The other CB, Turner I think, he gave up 2 steps on the In then Out route. Catch and turn up field and that's a first down at minimum, perhaps more if the corner misses the tackle.
Freshman mistake on Nick.
Understood that MT was open, but assuming the fade is the first read, unless you know it isn't there, you throw it. You aren't progressing to a second read to know that Tinsley is open unless you assess that it is covered. Right?
I doubt it's a blow out. I have this game pegged as a 35-24 type of game, and I think Penn State covers.
I also think it's very possible Penn State wins.
Our CBs are what worry me the most, particularly on 50/50 balls. Still some bad tendencies not to turn around and play the ball, which creates PI calls. Denzel Burke was a freshman phenom last year, but has struggled early this year. We've also had trouble keeping our CBs healthy -- Jordan Hancock (super talented CB we flipped from Clemson) just hasn't gotten healthy. Whether PSU can exploit that is probably a better call for you all to make, but it's a real vulnerability for us.
I like our DL. We don't get a lot of sacks, but we're one of the most disruptive DLs in the country in terms of forcing the QB to make uncomfortable throws. We are much improved in that department vs. last season. Knowles has proven very effective at getting pressure.
Our running game is under the microscope after last week's game, and there are questions about whether we're "tough" enough up front to run the ball if needed. We'll see. Obviously our WRs are studs -- I know he's not popular around here, but Julian Fleming has been terrific since he finally got healthy. But PSU's secondary will definitely test us.
I expect a very competitive game.
This is a fair assessment. Thanks for your perspective. I expect a good game and wouldn't be surprised if PSU covered.
The OSU WRs vs. PSU DBs is going to be one of the more intriguing matchups to watch, particularly Marvin Harrison Jr. vs. Joey Porter Jr. I expect the media to blather on about that storyline a lot during the game... two sons of former NFL players, strength vs. strength, two possible first round draft picks, etc. Teams haven't thrown Porter Jr.'s way too often, but if PSU lines him up against Harrison Jr. he'll see more opportunities than usual. I'm not sure if Porter Jr. typically follows the top WR regardless of which side of the field he's on, or if they keep him on one side. I don't see the games in person and this is rarely talked about on TV, but I suspect it will be mentioned a lot on Saturday. Porter Jr. also tends to get flagged for DPI once or twice a game given his physical style, so hopefully penalties won't be a factor.
I'm still not sure if PSU's WRs can exploit what you're pointing out is a potential weak spot. IMO we have solid, but not extraordinary WRs. This team does not have an Allen Robinson, KJ Hamler, Jahan Dotson type to become a focal point in the passing game. What we do have is a lot of competent receivers, particularly once you include three TEs that are all possible starters and sometimes line up together, so we have the ability to spread the ball around to a lot of different targets. This is one of the reasons I like that Clifford is starting, with his experience he's going to be better at going through progressions than Allar at this point in his young career. The problem is we have to protect Clifford long enough to do so. Clifford is also a solid runner and we'll probably see more designed QB runs this week vs. what we've seen in most other games.
Both reads were to Clifford's right side. Tinsley was in his break before Washington, so if PW was the first read on the fade, Tinsley must have been window dressing (no way to throw that route late).
If so, it's a low percentage play going for 15 yards when we needed 6. To the shortest WR we had on the field at that. Clifford was under 50% at that point. Just not the day for that call. No?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see how you'd ever throw the fade as a second read. If any coaches want to chime in, I'd be happy to admit I'm wrong.
I would guess some would. I am not familiar with Penn State's roster but you have only lost 1 game and have probably played a tougher schedule than OSU. OSU does not start all 5 star kids. The defensive backfield could be stronger.
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