Penn State - Michigan Dual Thread
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@Tom McAndrew Seems you noticed what I noticed... Where is the 125 match?
The lack of bonus and the general sluggishness is almost certainly due to beat the snot out of practices leading up to Sunday.
My opinions:
Howard was amazingly mentally tough. Robbie was obviously tired and did what is expected, he battled through the fatigue and won.
RBY and Lee should have had bonus points, but they were pacing themselves due to the fatigue.
Berge is never the most offensive minded kid they send out there, but while pacing he did what is expected, he overcame the fatigue battled for position throughout and won his match.
Carter was exhausted. Someone on here posted he thought Carter looked tired in the second and whoever the poster was never thought given how tired he thought Carter was he would win. Carter's win IMO is a huge wow simply because of the mental toughness he displayed in getting it done.
Brooks legs were a little slow for the same reason.
Beard I thought looked great, and his conditioning is finally here. He is neck and neck with the odds on favorite to win the weight.
Seth has to be as tired as the rest and despite getting his ass kicked by a far superior athlete Seth kept fighting and wrestling. Something OSU's new Hwt did not do Friday night.
149, I want to see Bartlet.
165, Joe needs to have that practice session Quentin had with Matt Brown where you are not allowed to leave practice until you get off bottom on a whistle start.
Due to changing things around to get the kids ready for the off-season I have no idea what to expect Friday night, but I know I am anxious as hell to see these kids roll once the coaches have them ready to go.
My opinions:
Howard was amazingly mentally tough. Robbie was obviously tired and did what is expected, he battled through the fatigue and won.
RBY and Lee should have had bonus points, but they were pacing themselves due to the fatigue.
Berge is never the most offensive minded kid they send out there, but while pacing he did what is expected, he overcame the fatigue battled for position throughout and won his match.
Carter was exhausted. Someone on here posted he thought Carter looked tired in the second and whoever the poster was never thought given how tired he thought Carter was he would win. Carter's win IMO is a huge wow simply because of the mental toughness he displayed in getting it done.
Brooks legs were a little slow for the same reason.
Beard I thought looked great, and his conditioning is finally here. He is neck and neck with the odds on favorite to win the weight.
Seth has to be as tired as the rest and despite getting his ass kicked by a far superior athlete Seth kept fighting and wrestling. Something OSU's new Hwt did not do Friday night.
149, I want to see Bartlet.
165, Joe needs to have that practice session Quentin had with Matt Brown where you are not allowed to leave practice until you get off bottom on a whistle start.
Due to changing things around to get the kids ready for the off-season I have no idea what to expect Friday night, but I know I am anxious as hell to see these kids roll once the coaches have them ready to go.
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BTN never (as far as I know) posts all 10 matches on their YouTube channel. It is what it is.
At least this year, you can hear the alternate ref counting down at the end of periods.
Agree. If Michigan goes Ragusin at 125 it might of meant a win. Obviously RBY would of had an easier match. Now if they had Micici it may have turned out different. Good dual tho
He weigh 129 lbs and he is moving in the wrong direction to wrestle 125, I think he may be their 133 guy in the post season.Stefon maybe a no go.
If he's moving up to 133 I just think he would have weighed in more. He's BIG for the weight so if he knew he was done at 125 this year he surely is walking around higher than 129.
That weight to me means more like he can get back to 125 with the 1.5% rule by conference. Skip any other remaining match and focus on the cut.
That weight to me means more like he can get back to 125 with the 1.5% rule by conference. Skip any other remaining match and focus on the cut.
Mattin is rostered at 149, and all of his opponents this year (other than Bartlett) are rostered 149 as well. So Mattin is probably a 149.
On Barraclough: Four-time high school champions aren't that common in any state. He's one of them. Granted, Utah is sparsely (3.2M) populated, which has to affect the overall level of competition. But he wouldn't be at PSU if the head coach didn't see something he liked, and an 18 - 3 record wrestling unattached last season would seem to bear that out. As a R_FR he's a big, long 149, and if he could maybe make that weight for a couple years, then move up to 157 / 165 he could very well be a factor on the national scene.
When Carter has ahold of his leg and bent up behind him you can’t roll through. Mistake by Massa but smart by Cstar
We should be careful about assuming this about 4x state champs -- some states have too many classifications.
Virginia has 6 classifications. Footage of their awards ceremony:
Utah has 6 classes for duals and 3 for individuals (1A/2A, 3A/4A, 5A/6A).
Etc.
I don't mean this to diminish Bearclaw's achievement-- for all I know, he would've been a 4x champ regardless. And I trust Cael.
Just that 4x champ doesn't mean what it used to.
We should be careful about assuming this about 4x state champs -- some states have too many classifications.
Virginia has 6 classifications. Footage of their awards ceremony:
Utah has 6 classes for duals and 3 for individuals (1A/2A, 3A/4A, 5A/6A).
Etc.
I don't mean this to diminish Bearclaw's achievement-- for all I know, he would've been a 4x champ regardless. And I trust Cael.
Just that 4x champ doesn't mean what it used to.
I was going to say it’s probably still rare, but gosh darn, in VA apparently it isn’t. There were 9 that got their 4th in 2019 alone.
It really comes down to the number of schools in the classification. I live in Maryland and coach high school track and field. One of my athletes is the favorite to win the state championship...I then explained to her it is the equivalent based upon the number of schools as being the District 3 champion in Pennsylvania.We should be careful about assuming this about 4x state champs -- some states have too many classifications.
Virginia has 6 classifications. Footage of their awards ceremony:
Utah has 6 classes for duals and 3 for individuals (1A/2A, 3A/4A, 5A/6A).
Etc.
I don't mean this to diminish Bearclaw's achievement-- for all I know, he would've been a 4x champ regardless. And I trust Cael.
Just that 4x champ doesn't mean what it used to.
She does have a legitimate chance of being the overall state champion.
In Maryland in wrestling they have 2 classifications (4 in track). I have a feeling Aaron Brooks would have won 4 no matter what in Maryland.
Back 20-25 years ago some family friends of ours moved back home after living in Alaska for 10-12 years. Their one son was an Alaska state champ and figured he was gonna take some hardware in PA. Not stretching the truth one bit here...the kid couldnt win the spot on his new PA HS team.
We should be careful about assuming this about 4x state champs -- some states have too many classifications.
Virginia has 6 classifications. Footage of their awards ceremony:
Utah has 6 classes for duals and 3 for individuals (1A/2A, 3A/4A, 5A/6A).
Etc.
I don't mean this to diminish Bearclaw's achievement-- for all I know, he would've been a 4x champ regardless. And I trust Cael.
Just that 4x champ doesn't mean what it used to.
If I am not mistaken Bo Pipher was a 3x champ, 1x runner up in Colorado as well.
I believe at least at one time, Bo held/holds the state-wide career record for falls in Colorado.
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Don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, but the Michigan match was the first time that Penn State failed to score bonus points in a match since 2016. Let's hope that is the beginning and end of a short "streak" of one.
Guessing that has something to do with his loss to Bulsak last year (who is also undefeated this year and only ranked 1 spot above Sloan)
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