Assuming the NIL thing is accurate, (who knows?) continued occurances like this will lead to wiser investments in the future. I think the NIL bubble will be quick to burst for some schools. It can't be sustainable. The numbers that are thrown around are ridiculous.Narduzzi really misread Jurkovich's talent if he recruited him to be the starting QB. Supposedly Jurkovich even got a decent amount of Pitt NIL money.
Looks like a costly miscalculation that could result in a losing season.
Victim of the small sample size. Conclusions on our QB based on a single game.
Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."Assuming the NIL thing is accurate, (who knows?) continued occurances like this will lead to wiser investments in the future. I think the NIL bubble will be quick to burst for some schools. It can't be sustainable. The numbers that are thrown around are ridiculous.
We joke about it, but Narduzzi can't put himself in that position, can he? Doesn't seem plausible at that level. Even so, he would seemingly have the pull to go to a donor and say, look...this isn't working out. As "outspoken" as he can be and all.Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
Thats what the Pitt fans on the lair think is happening right now. IE, jurkovich getting preferred treatment. How long it lasts I dont know but I doubt it goes on too much longer, He's been terrible.Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
I wouldn’t spend too much time trying to evaluate the “deep thoughts” of the DUZZ. Trying to understand or unravel what doesn’t exist is a wasted exercise.We joke about it, but Narduzzi can't put himself in that position, can he? Doesn't seem plausible at that level. Even so, he would seemingly have the pull to go to a donor and say, look...this isn't working out. As "outspoken" as he can be and all.
Balanced by ‘I gotta win some games or I lose my multi million dollar job!’Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
After seeing his refusal to play CV on Saturday, what portal transfer in their right mind would ever want to go there?Won’t bench because it would make recruiting future portal transfers not believe him
Because Pitt ran their mouths for decades and their fans are lying, sub human animals.They could have....but they didn't.
I'm still trying to figure out why Penn State fans that don't care about Pitt constantly run their mouths on every Pitt thread in this forum.
Has CV had a recent stroke and lost fine motor control of his throwing arm? Other than that I’m not sure how that could be possible.I think there's a very good chance that CV isn't better than Jurkovec.
He missed several easy wide open dump offs. His OL isn't helping but those were throws any high school QB should complete.I didn't see all of the game, I started watching midway through the 3rd. On TV it is hard to tell. Were there receivers open? You can't see them. If they weren't open and Jerkovic is being rushed, not much one can do. Its not his fault. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. But he looked slow and his arm isn't that strong.
That's just now how kids think though. If they believe they can play early there they'll go depending on other offersAfter seeing his refusal to play CV on Saturday, what portal transfer in their right mind would ever want to go there?
The way Pitt has played the last 2 weeks, one might think the Duzz spent all week reading boards. The team certainly didn't look prepared to play.So you are saying Nardouce reads PSU football forums? - even for you that is a dumb statement.
Why would they think they can play early knowing that that level of QB play won't let them see the field behind an entrenched starter?That's just now how kids think though. If they believe they can play early there they'll go depending on other offers
I agree. Unless you are the guy who he promises to play, which apparently is the case with Phil. I have to think he is trying to gain favor with western PA recruiting.After seeing his refusal to play CV on Saturday, what portal transfer in their right mind would ever want to go there?
We can’t understand it, because we don’t think or speak Narduzzese.I agree. Unless you are the guy who he promises to play, which apparently is the case with Phil. I have to think he is trying to gain favor with western PA recruiting.
But in reality he is destroying the team morale and hurting recruiting by not giving them their best chance to win.
You realize both transferred in right?Why would they think they can play early knowing that that level of QB play won't let them see the field behind an entrenched starter?
I'm thankful every day for that.We can’t understand it, because we don’t think or speak Narduzzese.
I don't believe anyone, even the Pitt staff, knows for sure. And they have seen Jurkovec have two of the most miserable QB performances in recent Pitt history the last two games. Jurkovec had receivers open and missed them by a mile. On top of that his interview after their Cincy game turned pitt fans off further. Jurkovec has dug himself a hole that only winning 6 games out of Pitts remaining 9 for a 7-5 season) would get him out of, and nobody in Oakland or anywhere else believes he could or will do that.I think there's a very good chance that CV isn't better than Jurkovec.
Not only a losing season, but now Veilleux knows how much of a Bozo coach that Duzzy is and he may considering tranferring again after this season. If you read the Pitt football board you don't have to enter too many threads to realize that Duzzy has also alienated a good many pitt fans by his failure to take action which will likely cause Pitt's sorry attendance to drop further. I doubt the cameras at the NC/Pitt game will dare to even show the stands during the broadcast.Narduzzi really misread Jurkovich's talent if he recruited him to be the starting QB. Supposedly Jurkovich even got a decent amount of Pitt NIL money.
Looks like a costly miscalculation that could result in a losing season.
Already mentioned on the pitt boardAgreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
how do you know that they are the same people?
Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to uswell, at least one is, as I was responding to the person that said "I'm still trying to figure out why Penn State fans care about Pitt. We haven't been rivals in decades."....thereby implying that he/she does not care about Pitt, yet continues to run his/her mouth in every thread about Pitt.....understand?
Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to us
I've never seen any other fan base be this petty
We shouldn't play Pitt. We're a better team than Pitt. We win 90%+ of our recruiting battles with them. Yet people are still bitter that they used to be decent or thankfully made things infinitely better for us by keeping us out the Big East. See our TV money.
If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic.
If you want to believe that you can. Clearly we disagree.The only thing more pathetic than people crying about Pitt is people who cry about people crying about Pitt.
Try living in W Pa. Lots of Pitt grads. Lots of people with family that are Pitt grads. Always talking trash. Acting like their football program is on par or better. Saying we won’t play them because we are afraid of them. Always saying their school is better. Often bringing up Sandusky.Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to us
I've never seen any other fan base be this petty
We shouldn't play Pitt. We're a better team than Pitt. We win 90%+ of our recruiting battles with them. Yet people are still bitter that they used to be decent or thankfully made things infinitely better for us by keeping us out the Big East. See our TV money.
If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic.
I doubt they're crying. They don't expect much. I'm really confused why you get that treatment. I used to live in the South Hills and now live north of the city and have never had a problem. I wear Penn State hoodies when going to grocery stores, walking my labs, etc all fall/winter and no one ever says a thing. Maybe you need to know classier people? I've never had anyone bring up Sandusky or say they're better than us. I have heard we're scared to play them and that's just their way of dealing with the fact we refuse to play them. To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.Try living in W Pa. Lots of Pitt grads. Lots of people with family that are Pitt grads. Always talking trash. Acting like their football program is on par or better. Saying we won’t play them because we are afraid of them. Always saying their school is better. Often bringing up Sandusky.
It thrills my heart 🥰 to see them lose. To see Dueche screw up. I laugh at their tears😹.
To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.
I agree with all of that. I don't think we have anything to gain by playing Pitt but we also have nothing to gain by playing WVU. Fear likely isn't the right word or the one I would use but I sew why they do given our loss to them was a major factor in us missing a playoff bid.Zero fear. Just doesn't fit the criteria of what we need from a schedule. I think the way they handled our road games ruffled feathers more than people realized and plays a part in not continuing the series.
Another factor is PA football is down, particularly WPa. And we are cherry picking them kids mostly. It's the Philly kids we tend to lose to SEC schools. I'd rather play a neutral game in Philly...
I agree with all of that. I don't think we have anything to gain by playing Pitt but we also have nothing to gain by playing WVU. Fear likely isn't the right word or the one I would use but I sew why they do given our loss to them was a major factor in us missing a playoff bid.
I doubt they're crying. They don't expect much. I'm really confused why you get that treatment. I used to live in the South Hills and now live north of the city and have never had a problem. I wear Penn State hoodies when going to grocery stores, walking my labs, etc all fall/winter and no one ever says a thing. Maybe you need to know classier people? I've never had anyone bring up Sandusky or say they're better than us. I have heard we're scared to play them and that's just their way of dealing with the fact we refuse to play them. To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.
Now this is funny. Your quote from this very thread:
"If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic."
So if I have this straight, you actually think Penn State fans cry about Pitt....even though, in fact, we have every reason to celebrate.....but Pitt fans don't cry about their miserable season and coach....even though, in fact, they do?
That's gold!
Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.Now this is funny. Your quote from this very thread:
"If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic."
So if I have this straight, you actually think Penn State fans cry about Pitt....even though, in fact, we have every reason to celebrate.....but Pitt fans don't cry about their miserable season and coach....even though, in fact, they do?
That's gold!
This...all of this.Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.
Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.