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Narduzzi really misread Jurkovich's talent if he recruited him to be the starting QB. Supposedly Jurkovich even got a decent amount of Pitt NIL money.

Looks like a costly miscalculation that could result in a losing season.
 
Narduzzi really misread Jurkovich's talent if he recruited him to be the starting QB. Supposedly Jurkovich even got a decent amount of Pitt NIL money.

Looks like a costly miscalculation that could result in a losing season.
Assuming the NIL thing is accurate, (who knows?) continued occurances like this will lead to wiser investments in the future. I think the NIL bubble will be quick to burst for some schools. It can't be sustainable. The numbers that are thrown around are ridiculous.
 
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Assuming the NIL thing is accurate, (who knows?) continued occurances like this will lead to wiser investments in the future. I think the NIL bubble will be quick to burst for some schools. It can't be sustainable. The numbers that are thrown around are ridiculous.
Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
 
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Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
We joke about it, but Narduzzi can't put himself in that position, can he? Doesn't seem plausible at that level. Even so, he would seemingly have the pull to go to a donor and say, look...this isn't working out. As "outspoken" as he can be and all.
 
Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
Thats what the Pitt fans on the lair think is happening right now. IE, jurkovich getting preferred treatment. How long it lasts I dont know but I doubt it goes on too much longer, He's been terrible.
 
We joke about it, but Narduzzi can't put himself in that position, can he? Doesn't seem plausible at that level. Even so, he would seemingly have the pull to go to a donor and say, look...this isn't working out. As "outspoken" as he can be and all.
I wouldn’t spend too much time trying to evaluate the “deep thoughts” of the DUZZ. Trying to understand or unravel what doesn’t exist is a wasted exercise.
 
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Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
Balanced by ‘I gotta win some games or I lose my multi million dollar job!’
 
They could have....but they didn't.

I'm still trying to figure out why Penn State fans that don't care about Pitt constantly run their mouths on every Pitt thread in this forum.
Because Pitt ran their mouths for decades and their fans are lying, sub human animals.
 
I didn't see all of the game, I started watching midway through the 3rd. On TV it is hard to tell. Were there receivers open? You can't see them. If they weren't open and Jerkovic is being rushed, not much one can do. Its not his fault. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. But he looked slow and his arm isn't that strong.
He missed several easy wide open dump offs. His OL isn't helping but those were throws any high school QB should complete.

Phil and his receivers don't see the same reads on the field. A number of passes weren't even in the same zip code. The receivers run vertical routes and Phil throws like it should be a comeback route.

There were guys open against Cincy, mostly deeper throws. But Phil was either pressured or when he did have time, didn't have the arm to get it there.
 
After seeing his refusal to play CV on Saturday, what portal transfer in their right mind would ever want to go there?
That's just now how kids think though. If they believe they can play early there they'll go depending on other offers
 
That's just now how kids think though. If they believe they can play early there they'll go depending on other offers
Why would they think they can play early knowing that that level of QB play won't let them see the field behind an entrenched starter?
 
After seeing his refusal to play CV on Saturday, what portal transfer in their right mind would ever want to go there?
I agree. Unless you are the guy who he promises to play, which apparently is the case with Phil. I have to think he is trying to gain favor with western PA recruiting.

But in reality he is destroying the team morale and hurting recruiting by not giving them their best chance to win.
 
I agree. Unless you are the guy who he promises to play, which apparently is the case with Phil. I have to think he is trying to gain favor with western PA recruiting.

But in reality he is destroying the team morale and hurting recruiting by not giving them their best chance to win.
We can’t understand it, because we don’t think or speak Narduzzese.
 
Why would they think they can play early knowing that that level of QB play won't let them see the field behind an entrenched starter?
You realize both transferred in right?
And same reason 4 and 5 star kids go to a place loaded at their position.
 
I think there's a very good chance that CV isn't better than Jurkovec.
I don't believe anyone, even the Pitt staff, knows for sure. And they have seen Jurkovec have two of the most miserable QB performances in recent Pitt history the last two games. Jurkovec had receivers open and missed them by a mile. On top of that his interview after their Cincy game turned pitt fans off further. Jurkovec has dug himself a hole that only winning 6 games out of Pitts remaining 9 for a 7-5 season) would get him out of, and nobody in Oakland or anywhere else believes he could or will do that.

In a smaller sample size at PSU Veilleux was very accurate as well as being pretty cool in the pocket. And Veilleux has 3 years of eligibility which could translate into him getting better this season to build for better QB play in 2024 and 2025 for Pitt. And after 3 games Pitt's season goal are for all practical purposes trashed. 2 bad losses and 4 ranked teams upcoming, along with Duzzy's record of losing to an occasional bottom feeder has Pitt fans believing that a 6-6 season is about the best they can reasonably expect for this season. The Pitt fans have every reason to complain that Duzzy is not giving the backup QB a chance to show he is a better in game QB.
 
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Narduzzi really misread Jurkovich's talent if he recruited him to be the starting QB. Supposedly Jurkovich even got a decent amount of Pitt NIL money.

Looks like a costly miscalculation that could result in a losing season.
Not only a losing season, but now Veilleux knows how much of a Bozo coach that Duzzy is and he may considering tranferring again after this season. If you read the Pitt football board you don't have to enter too many threads to realize that Duzzy has also alienated a good many pitt fans by his failure to take action which will likely cause Pitt's sorry attendance to drop further. I doubt the cameras at the NC/Pitt game will dare to even show the stands during the broadcast.
 
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Agreed. an interesting side thought: could the coach also be similarly influenced by the NIL money the player is getting? I mean, the coach could think "wow, big booster, maybe pays me a NIL too in the future, don't want to piss them off, I'll give Jerkovic one more game...."
Already mentioned on the pitt board
No one is trusting anyone overthere
 
how do you know that they are the same people?

well, at least one is, as I was responding to the person that said "I'm still trying to figure out why Penn State fans care about Pitt. We haven't been rivals in decades."....thereby implying that he/she does not care about Pitt, yet continues to run his/her mouth in every thread about Pitt.....understand?
 
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well, at least one is, as I was responding to the person that said "I'm still trying to figure out why Penn State fans care about Pitt. We haven't been rivals in decades."....thereby implying that he/she does not care about Pitt, yet continues to run his/her mouth in every thread about Pitt.....understand?
Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to us
I've never seen any other fan base be this petty
We shouldn't play Pitt. We're a better team than Pitt. We win 90%+ of our recruiting battles with them. Yet people are still bitter that they used to be decent or thankfully made things infinitely better for us by keeping us out the Big East. See our TV money.
If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic.
 
Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to us
I've never seen any other fan base be this petty
We shouldn't play Pitt. We're a better team than Pitt. We win 90%+ of our recruiting battles with them. Yet people are still bitter that they used to be decent or thankfully made things infinitely better for us by keeping us out the Big East. See our TV money.
If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic.

The only thing more pathetic than people crying about Pitt is people who cry about people crying about Pitt.
 
Because you're all acting like children regarding a school you all claim that's inferior to us
I've never seen any other fan base be this petty
We shouldn't play Pitt. We're a better team than Pitt. We win 90%+ of our recruiting battles with them. Yet people are still bitter that they used to be decent or thankfully made things infinitely better for us by keeping us out the Big East. See our TV money.
If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic.
Try living in W Pa. Lots of Pitt grads. Lots of people with family that are Pitt grads. Always talking trash. Acting like their football program is on par or better. Saying we won’t play them because we are afraid of them. Always saying their school is better. Often bringing up Sandusky.

It thrills my heart 🥰 to see them lose. To see Dueche screw up. I laugh at their tears😹.
 
Try living in W Pa. Lots of Pitt grads. Lots of people with family that are Pitt grads. Always talking trash. Acting like their football program is on par or better. Saying we won’t play them because we are afraid of them. Always saying their school is better. Often bringing up Sandusky.

It thrills my heart 🥰 to see them lose. To see Dueche screw up. I laugh at their tears😹.
I doubt they're crying. They don't expect much. I'm really confused why you get that treatment. I used to live in the South Hills and now live north of the city and have never had a problem. I wear Penn State hoodies when going to grocery stores, walking my labs, etc all fall/winter and no one ever says a thing. Maybe you need to know classier people? I've never had anyone bring up Sandusky or say they're better than us. I have heard we're scared to play them and that's just their way of dealing with the fact we refuse to play them. To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.
 
To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.

Zero fear. Just doesn't fit the criteria of what we need from a schedule. I think the way they handled our road games ruffled feathers more than people realized and plays a part in not continuing the series.

Another factor is PA football is down, particularly WPa. And we are cherry picking them kids mostly. It's the Philly kids we tend to lose to SEC schools. I'd rather play a neutral game in Philly...
 
Zero fear. Just doesn't fit the criteria of what we need from a schedule. I think the way they handled our road games ruffled feathers more than people realized and plays a part in not continuing the series.

Another factor is PA football is down, particularly WPa. And we are cherry picking them kids mostly. It's the Philly kids we tend to lose to SEC schools. I'd rather play a neutral game in Philly...
I agree with all of that. I don't think we have anything to gain by playing Pitt but we also have nothing to gain by playing WVU. Fear likely isn't the right word or the one I would use but I sew why they do given our loss to them was a major factor in us missing a playoff bid.
 
I agree with all of that. I don't think we have anything to gain by playing Pitt but we also have nothing to gain by playing WVU. Fear likely isn't the right word or the one I would use but I sew why they do given our loss to them was a major factor in us missing a playoff bid.

WVU drew the 4th highest attendance so I'm not inclined to say much about it. I don't think it should be an annual game either though.

Losing OOC is part of making the good games, but in the 4 team playoff era it is risky. When we go to 12, that risk will decrease (because multiple 2 loss teams will get in). The Pitt game was good adversity. We might not have beaten Minnesota that year without having had that experience prior.
 
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In case you guys have not already had enough fun at Pitt's and Duzzy's expense, continued entertainment below. Duzzy sure seems like a whipped puppy only 3 games into the season, with lots more punishment ahead.

 
I doubt they're crying. They don't expect much. I'm really confused why you get that treatment. I used to live in the South Hills and now live north of the city and have never had a problem. I wear Penn State hoodies when going to grocery stores, walking my labs, etc all fall/winter and no one ever says a thing. Maybe you need to know classier people? I've never had anyone bring up Sandusky or say they're better than us. I have heard we're scared to play them and that's just their way of dealing with the fact we refuse to play them. To be fair, we are kind of afraid because we gain nothing from playing them and they gain a ton. Maybe not how you think they mean afraid but we're definitely, wisely, avoiding it.

Now this is funny. Your quote from this very thread:
"If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic."

So if I have this straight, you actually think Penn State fans cry about Pitt....even though, in fact, we have every reason to celebrate.....but Pitt fans don't cry about their miserable season and coach....even though, in fact, they do?

That's gold!
 
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Now this is funny. Your quote from this very thread:
"If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic."

So if I have this straight, you actually think Penn State fans cry about Pitt....even though, in fact, we have every reason to celebrate.....but Pitt fans don't cry about their miserable season and coach....even though, in fact, they do?

That's gold!

"Crying" is generally built on expectations. Yes, I believe most Pitt fans think they've overachiever under Narduzzi but aren't happy with the QB situation. I think Penn State fan are split between those that think we've accomplished enough under Franklin yet still obsess about Pitt and those that feel Penn State needs to improve while not caring at all about Pitt.

Celebrating another team being bad is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's a losers mentality.
 
Now this is funny. Your quote from this very thread:
"If you and others want to cry about Pitt I'll tell you that you're being pathetic."

So if I have this straight, you actually think Penn State fans cry about Pitt....even though, in fact, we have every reason to celebrate.....but Pitt fans don't cry about their miserable season and coach....even though, in fact, they do?

That's gold!
Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.
 
Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.
This...all of this.
 
Its really easy to understand, and I dont believe that you don’t understand. Many posters here are older and live in western pa. 40 years ago the Pitt PSU game meant something. Now it is meaningless. For some reason I don’t understand, we occasionally put the old eastern rivals on our schedule. 4 games with Pitt, 2 with WVU, and I believe Syracuse is coming soon. I would dump them all. Playing those teams does not help recruiting, does not help financially, and does not help with national pollsters. Dump them all.

None of this.

Every game means something....just see what happens when you lose. Until we go to 12 conference games, we have to play someone OOC.

The recent WVU game was the 4th most attended game at The Beav. Pitt 2017 was top 10 until Auburn and WVU bumped it. Any time we play an old eastern rival the stadium is at 100%+ capacity.....so that blows your argument that these games do not help financially.

As for the rest, prove that these games don't help recruiting and while you're at it, prove that these games don't help in the national polls. Pretty sure you can't.

I grew up in western PA, around many Pitt fans, and live in Eastern PA now, and the "play Pitt every year?" question comes up once in a while....the only ones I see crying about playing Pitt are in this forum.
 
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