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Sammy Sasso

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Freshman from Nazareth knocks off #1 Lugo at 149, which appears to be a weight class where Penn State could use some help. Did Cael recruit him?
 
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It's buried a bit, but there is lengthy discussion on this most recently starting here.
 
Last night I had a few vinos at supper and came across a little to vague about the Sasso situation. My issue isn't Sasso not wrestling for PSU but he wasn't even recruited. A kid can choose to go wherever he wants, sometimes it could be the tuition allottment or coaching preference. In some rare cases it might be a family perk that entices the wrestler,such as Spencer Lee and Surianos situation.
Do I think Sammy's past created the lack of interest from Cael, Yes. Was that valid, I don't know. You can not argue with what Sanderson has done. I know most of us made mistakes when we were young.
I just wished that he was in our lineup.
 
Beating Horses.....Burning Bridges......So much violence. Can't we all just get along? :)
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.

Right Slush. Sasso took no offense shots the whole match how this Rivera let it go with no stall warnings or calls is unbelievable. Lugo had to just finish his 4 or 5 that he did have so have to blame him really..The cradle Lugo had in the one min overtime was 2 and that should have ended it no reaction time is not needed anymore.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.
I'll admit I wasn't aware of the previous threads or the baggage he may have had. I was just witnessing a defeat of a #1-ranked wrestler by a Pennsylvania wrestler at a weight where Penn State will likely be giving up 6 points against Iowa next week.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.
Not sure what was different for him last night, but nearly all of his college matches have been much higher scoring, even his losses.

Maybe there's an issue with facing opponents who wrestle a more controlled style. Going back to HS, he wrestled free and loose against Spencer Lee, but the next year got Pletchered (boring 2-1 loss decided by a penalty point).
 
Right Slush. Sasso took no offense shots the whole match how this Rivera let it go with no stall warnings or calls is unbelievable. Lugo had to just finish his 4 or 5 that he did have so have to blame him really..The cradle Lugo had in the one min overtime was 2 and that should have ended it no reaction time is not needed anymore.

I think the official wasn't going to give the 2 on the cradle until Lugo popped his head out . . . by the time he did, he no longer had the cradle locked.

I'll admit I wasn't aware of the previous threads or the baggage he may have had. I was just witnessing a defeat of a #1-ranked wrestler by a Pennsylvania wrestler at a weight where Penn State will likely be giving up 6 points against Iowa next week.

Have some faith in our guy! While it would really be something to get an upset, we can objectively predict no worse than a loss by decision.
 
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Not sure what was different for him last night, but nearly all of his college matches have been much higher scoring, even his losses.

Maybe there's an issue with facing opponents who wrestle a more controlled style. Going back to HS, he wrestled free and loose against Spencer Lee, but the next year got Pletchered (boring 2-1 loss decided by a penalty point).

I'm guessing now that he is a BlackShirt, he has less incentive to get after it out there. ;)

Solid point, though. I do recall higher scores in other matches.
 
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I'll admit I wasn't aware of the previous threads or the baggage he may have had. I was just witnessing a defeat of a #1-ranked wrestler by a Pennsylvania wrestler at a weight where Penn State will likely be giving up 6 points against Iowa next week.
Lugo has 1 pin this year -- against a shirting true freshman from Indiana.

Lugo wins, fair prediction. Lugo by fall, Penn State Pessimism on display.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.
Agree that Sasso did nothing offensively, but it was a damn entertaining bout against Lugo, even without a single takedown. Low scoring for sure, but still entertaining. It looked like Lugo had Sasso dead to rights 2 or 3 times, but Sasso's defense and flexibility were incredible. Sasso is a living Gumby man.
 
Going by his last match Lugo scores 1 point per 9 minuets. How long would they have to wrestle to get to a major :) Has Penn state or anyone have a # 1 ranked wrestler score 1 point in a 9 minute dual meet match?
 
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but absolutely nothing about how Sasso wrestled that match last night made me wish he was on the PSU team.

I could have missed something, but I came away thinking he made no attempt whatsover to create his own offense. It was all defense. To each his own, but watching that strategy is anti-entertainment for me.

Right Slush. Sasso took no offense shots the whole match how this Rivera let it go with no stall warnings or calls is unbelievable. Lugo had to just finish his 4 or 5 that he did have so have to blame him really..The cradle Lugo had in the one min overtime was 2 and that should have ended it no reaction time is not needed anymore.
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Yeah I still don’t understand how that cradle wasn’t 2, even after review. Refs totally blew that call, and it cost Lugo the match.
 
Agree that Sasso did nothing offensively, but it was a damn entertaining bout against Lugo, even without a single takedown. Low scoring for sure, but still entertaining. It looked like Lugo had Sasso dead to rights 2 or 3 times, but Sasso's defense and flexibility were incredible. Sasso is a living Gumby man.

When one guy takes all the risk and does all the work and doesn't even get the reward of stalling points, "annoying" (rather than entertaining) is the word I would use to describe how I feel about the match.

There was excitement in the scrambles, but I still came away annoyed that one of the wrestlers could get away with not attempting any offense.

With as much grief as some on this board have given Fix, Lehigh, Evans, and the like over the years, any sort of endorsement for Sasso's performance last night to me sounds like it is all just about the fact he beat an Iowa guy. Pitchforks would be out for Sasso if it was any other opponent (in my opinion).
 
To add opinion about Sasso's ability from my eyes. I would like to comment about what I have witnessed watching high school wrestling. I'm obviously a District 11 Homer, but can tell you every 5 to 7 years a local wrestler has an unique ability that stands out from the other great wrestlers in the area. Over the past 45 years I saw Bobby Weaver, Jack Cuvo, Jon Trenge, Jammar Billman,Jordan Oliver, Mikey Riscato, Sammy Sasso,and now Crookman have special talent..
Some of them excelled in college. Cuvo 2x NC could have been 3 or 4 if he could of beaten Bonomo ,Oliver 2x NC . One was an Olympic champ,Weaver but to small for college. Trenge wrestled Cael for his last title. Billman was a multi AA. Mikey probably chose the wrong college.
Just to confirm I never thought Darling was in this group
Maybe Sasso, ends up like one of the champs from above ,maybe he doesn't.
My guess is he gets one or two National titles.
Maybe I'm being a Homer.
 
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To add opinion about Sasso's ability from my eyes. I would like to comment about what I have witnessed watching high school wrestling. I'm obviously a District 11 Homer, but can tell you every 5 to 7 years a local wrestler has an unique ability that stands out from the other great wrestlers in the area. Over the past 45 years I saw Bobby Weaver, Jack Cuvo, Jon Trenge, Jammar Billman,Jordan Oliver, Mikey Riscato, Sammy Sasso,and now Crookman have special talent..
Some of them excelled in college. Cuvo 2x NC could have been 3 or 4 if he could of beaten Bonomo ,Oliver 2x NC . One was an Olympic champ,Weaver but to small for college. Trenge wrestled Cael for his last title. Billman was a multi AA. Mikey probably chose the wrong college.
Just to confirm I never thought Darling was in this group
Maybe Sasso, ends up like one of the champs from above ,maybe he doesn't.
My guess is he gets one or two National titles.
Maybe I'm being a Homer.


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Ha!

But you know how this will go. Sasso is the next Spencer Lee -- any time he wins or our guy loses, somebody will bring him up, regret him going elsewhere, invent reasons for his choice, pretend he's transferring, etc.
 
Let’s not ignore that 149 is unusually week this year. Not sure this conversation exists if Nick Lee is 149.
 
Ha!

But you know how this will go. Sasso is the next Spencer Lee -- any time he wins or our guy loses, somebody will bring him up, regret him going elsewhere, invent reasons for his choice, pretend he's transferring, etc.
Wait, so you’re saying Spencer is transferring? Awesome!
 
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Ha!

But you know how this will go. Sasso is the next Spencer Lee -- any time he wins or our guy loses, somebody will bring him up, regret him going elsewhere, invent reasons for his choice, pretend he's transferring, etc.
If you check all my post I have only once posted comments about a wrestler and his college choice. I actually defended Spencer Lee and his family decision.
My gripe as I noted was Sasso didn't even get recruited by PSU.
Have I gone over the top on this issue, yes. But as a PSU fan that likes to see Pennsylvania home grown talent make up some of our lineup I think I have valid reason to be disappointed on this one situation.
Check what I post, it's very seldom negative. I try to be informative and insightful.
Your knowledge on PSU is awesome and I enjoy your post probably the most in this forum. We just look at this issue differently.
 
If you check all my post I have only once posted comments about a wrestler and his college choice. I actually defended Spencer Lee and his family decision.
My gripe as I noted was Sasso didn't even get recruited by PSU.
Have I gone over the top on this issue, yes. But as a PSU fan that likes to see Pennsylvania home grown talent make up some of our lineup I think I have valid reason to be disappointed on this one situation.
Check what I post, it's very seldom negative. I try to be informative and insightful.
Your knowledge on PSU is awesome and I enjoy your post probably the most in this forum. We just look at this issue differently.
I didn't single you out there. It was a prediction applied broadly across the board.
 
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Right Slush. Sasso took no offense shots the whole match how this Rivera let it go with no stall warnings or calls is unbelievable. Lugo had to just finish his 4 or 5 that he did have so have to blame him really..The cradle Lugo had in the one min overtime was 2 and that should have ended it no reaction time is not needed anymore.
Yeah I still don’t understand how that cradle wasn’t 2, even after review. Refs totally blew that call, and it cost Lugo the match.[/QUOTE]
Were Tom and Terry coaching Sasso. That match had an Iowa blue print all over it. If you notice in the 141 and 197 matches Brands sent two ducks out there to eat time. Neither gave up big points to number ones.
 
Sasso is more offensive as a freshman than Pletcher was as a sophmore. Pletch is an offensive machine now. I expect Sasso will show more attack rate each year and be a monster before he is done. I'm no tOSU fan but he is already fun to watch most of the time. He isn't Nolf or Bo but who is?
 
If you check all my post I have only once posted comments about a wrestler and his college choice. I actually defended Spencer Lee and his family decision.
My gripe as I noted was Sasso didn't even get recruited by PSU.
Have I gone over the top on this issue, yes. But as a PSU fan that likes to see Pennsylvania home grown talent make up some of our lineup I think I have valid reason to be disappointed on this one situation.
Check what I post, it's very seldom negative. I try to be informative and insightful.
Your knowledge on PSU is awesome and I enjoy your post probably the most in this forum. We just look at this issue differently.
Your disappointment should lie with the wrestler then. His bed was made early on and while kids will be kids and grow up..Cael has something he looks for and at the time, the kid wasn’t it. Those standards are real. Ever wonder why we don’t wrestle CKLV? The man has standards. We don’t have to agree with them, but he stands pretty tall with them.

Paterno’s Grand Experiment worked. I’d say Cael’s experiment does too.
 
Yeah I still don’t understand how that cradle wasn’t 2, even after review. Refs totally blew that call, and it cost Lugo the match.
Were Tom and Terry coaching Sasso. That match had an Iowa blue print all over it. If you notice in the 141 and 197 matches Brands sent two ducks out there to eat time. Neither gave up big points to number ones.[/QUOTE]
I believe he needed to get him to his hip as in starting to turn him.... sort of like what happens on the edge. My $.02 Yet this is similar situation to the over/under on the mat and the guy puts his leg in and automatically get the two. Locking hands on the cradle doesn't give you auto points
 
Were Tom and Terry coaching Sasso. That match had an Iowa blue print all over it. If you notice in the 141 and 197 matches Brands sent two ducks out there to eat time. Neither gave up big points to number ones.
I believe he needed to get him to his hip as in starting to turn him.... sort of like what happens on the edge. My $.02 Yet this is similar situation to the over/under on the mat and the guy puts his leg in and automatically get the two. Locking hands on the cradle doesn't give you auto points[/QUOTE]

Correct on the cradle. You have to put your opponent on his hip.
 
Your disappointment should lie with the wrestler then. His bed was made early on and while kids will be kids and grow up..Cael has something he looks for and at the time, the kid wasn’t it. Those standards are real. Ever wonder why we don’t wrestle CKLV? The man has standards. We don’t have to agree with them, but he stands pretty tall with them.

Paterno’s Grand Experiment worked. I’d say Cael’s experiment does too.
If that's the case why did he recruit Teasdale.?
 
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