Don’t all relevant players have insurance policies? If so, why the need to skip the bowl game? What’s next? Fold up tents in mid-October?
So, WVU had their QB and tackle and one wideout
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Cael's boys lose money. Wouldn't exist without the surplus the football program generates.
Kids sitting out their bowl games are telling you exactly what they think about what they're getting.
See the injury to Jake Butt in their bowl game. He's never fully recovered. The insurance policy doesn't make up for that. He recovered about 540k for the insurance policy. No where close to what he likely lost.
I don't know that he lost more than 540k falling from the 2nd/3rd to the 5th round? Or that since he hasn't fully recovered the odds of him landing a second contract are drastically reduced? Really?
You don’t know how much he lost. Because you don’t know what round he would have gone in. And you don’t know know if he would have made it. And you don’t know if he would have ever gotten to a second contract. Basically you don’t know shiat. You are just guessing
Yes and no. They're expensive and the insurance companies make it difficult to collect. College player also cannot get insurance for a second NFL contract.
LMAO--you're awesome. First you can't read "losing record in the ACC" and now you're trying to say that Butt didn't fall in the draft. And notice I didn't say he would have gotten a second contract I said the fact he has yet to fully recover makes it less likely. The injury without question cost him more than 540k but if you can't simply acknowledge that then that's on you.
You left off these facts. He collected $ 550 000 from and insurance and then
On May 11, 2017, the Denver Broncos signed Butt to a four-year, $2.70 million contract that included a signing bonus of $300,938.[2
On which he still is collecting as he went on IR
Yea 17-18 is less than .500 duh but really??
As I said you don’t know
You're right. Nobody knows where a player will go in the NFL draft or what he's likely to make over an NFL career. But the player has a pretty good idea of where he'll go in the draft because he has to get an independent assessment in order to take out an LOV policy. He also believes that he'll have an NFL career because that what he's telling his school and what he thinks of its scholarship when he decides to sit out.
We all understand your consternation. It is remarkable that any poster would have the nerve to question your knowledge. Nevertheless, it is beneath you to quibble over trifling matters. Leave that to your inferiors, the rest of us.
Nobody is guranteed anything, but only a fool puts the possibility on the line for a bowl game and a fvcking Best Buy gift certificate.
Not all schools pay for them and not all schools pay the full amount of coverage a player may want. See Leonard Fournette.
Yeah, because collecting on an insurance policy is the same as having a career for which someone has worked hard for years.
I would fully expect that Grier has insurance, but he's already cast his vote and it's the only one that counts.
Sure you do. Then the ones lucky enough to be projected high enough make a business decision to play or not in bowl games. People can whine or hate on it all they want. It’s not changing anytime soon.
Why play the 7th game ? Or the 8th? Or the 3rd? Or the playoff game? Really why play anywhere but Alabama or Clemson?
Because really all the other games are meaningless, right
I didn't leave out those facts. I said he got 540k (not 550k) I think 543k to be exact and that he was drafted in the 5th round when he was a consensus day 2 pick. I covered all of that. The insurance never makes up for the injury because it doesn't factor in future earnings. You're trying to argue that insurance makes up for the threat of an injury. It absolutely does not.
Yes, 17-18 is less than 500 and any coach should be fired for failing to win half their conference games. Richt won one less game despite coaching 11 less. Golden was a failure at Miami by any standard.
Clowney did that, didn’t hurt his stock at all. He mailed it early and everyone’s knew it. Taken 2nd overall IIRC. Sorry you aren’t aware yet college football is a business for all parties involved....including the players.
Because that's part of your scholarship. Generally speaking only bowl games are completely irrelevant to the big picture. Rare exceptions like Maryland-Penn State this year.
As I said you don’t know what round he would have gone in. You don’t know if he would have any future earnings , you don’t know if he would have gotten hurt his first day of practice the insurance made up the difference between 5 Th round and second.
You left off about the contract that he did sign and he’s still collecting on
So tearing up your knee months before the draft has no impact, then why get insurance? Can’t have it both ways.
I didn't leave out anything about the contract. I said he was drafted in the 5th round which tells you the approximate contract if you follow the NFL. He may have gotten hurt but none of that alters what we do know. He fell in the draft because he had to sit out all of 2017 and he was injured in the bowl game. He's never been healthy since then. All of that is factual and he is the poster child for sitting out bowl games. Anyone entering the draft the elects to play in a bowl game that is not associated with the playoff is making a huge mistake and thankfully each year we're going to see more and more players realize this. Will Grier, Christian McCaffrey & everyone else that sat out their bowl game did the right thing. Those that played took an unnecessary risk.
Huh? Once you sign you scholarship you don’t really have to play. They are no cut. Just don’t go in the game!!! They can’t take it away from you There’s no difference between a regular season game and a bowl game according to you and many on this site
There's a huge difference between a regular season game and a meaningless bowl game and I've explained that a hundred times.
Because the scholarship is to play regular season games that actually have meaning. The bowl is after the semester is over. Your obligation is completed and there's no reason to play in an exhibition game. Thankfully Christian McCaffrey was smart enough to do this. Fournette followed suit and now a lot of kids realize there's no reason to play in these games.
Bowl games literally are nothing. They have no impact on anything which is why half the time one team doesn't even really show up. Regular season games impact division races, conference races and the battle for playoff.
Again division races, conference races and playoff races. They have meaning because even once you're eliminated you can impact others. Although this goes back to why expansion is very important. With a 24 team playoff more teams are battling for seeding and for playoff spots.
Tell the players then. This isn’t what is really is going on and is a stupid weak argument. It’s not your body or decision to make. That is the real bottom line.
How about when the coach processes them because HE made a bad evaluation of talent?
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