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The transfer pool is getting bigger, pretty soon it will be a free
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How’s that any different from the way recruiting works?
I'm old school, been passionately following college football for 45 years (I was hooked after watching the 1973 season '74 Orange Bowl with my Dad). The new rules are really challenging to accept. I get that the young athletes want their chance to shine but seriously this is destine to get out of control. Play me or I'm leaving. There is a great book out about the coddling of the American mind, the transfer portal and all that it represents is another reflection of the problem. What's wrong with being a team player? Not everyone gets to be CEO or Governor or President. Life is about making your contribution to something bigger than yourself however insignificant it may seem. This generation of players learn that being selfish is stylish. Sad. In time this process will further erode what was an American celebration-college football. You may as well launch the NFL D-League like the NBA. Let the passionate student athletes play for the colleges and the selfish NFL or bust types play there. Enough said.
once the ncaa acknowledges that there is no sit out year for anyone, it will be mass free agency and re-recruiting your team each year. it will be very hard to keep coaches away from each others players. the portal added just the right dose of technology to facilitate the process. some of the new emerging technology will enable totally run silent confidential and untraceable communication, so then it will be wholesale recruiting in real time.
I have googled before some one shows me to google.
Where is the transfer portal site.
I can’t find it
Where is the transfer portal site.
I can’t find it
CFB is a sesspool thanks to its current leadership. Completely out of control. Bagmen everywhere, kids transferring without sitting out, 5th seniors are one and done, coaches flipping and leaving on a wim. There is no loyalty and commitment to anything but me, me, me....
This is a bad thing for CFB. I want my team better "now" mentality, lower tier power 5, and non power 5 are going to eat this up. This isn't finishing a career at Delaware .
There was a day when you recognized your professional team primarily by the names of the players. Maybe you even collected cards with their faces and record printed on the back.
But now you can't recognize your team by anything other than the uniform and the fact that it is one of the teams when played locally. Given that the same forces are at work -- money -- the trend is extending to the colleges.
My interest in team sports will probably continue to decline. I might be left watching only golf, where there is no team illusion and nothing local. You watch only for the quality of play and really don't have a sense of stake in the outcome. Young people addicted to their phones and social networks probably do not need free agency to drive disinterest. Interest in sports should continue to decline and begin to impact feed for the beast -- money.
But now you can't recognize your team by anything other than the uniform and the fact that it is one of the teams when played locally. Given that the same forces are at work -- money -- the trend is extending to the colleges.
My interest in team sports will probably continue to decline. I might be left watching only golf, where there is no team illusion and nothing local. You watch only for the quality of play and really don't have a sense of stake in the outcome. Young people addicted to their phones and social networks probably do not need free agency to drive disinterest. Interest in sports should continue to decline and begin to impact feed for the beast -- money.
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You are so right. I am 80 years old. And College Sports has been about Money ever since T.V. has taken over. No more for the school, it is all about me. But that's what this generation is all about, me.
Who made the game about money? It wasn’t the players. The college administrators and TV networks are what made this bed, and the players are doing the best they can in the landscape that the college administrators and TV executives have created for them to exist in.
Although I agree with the sentiment, most schools have been operating like semi-pro teams for 50 years. I have not watched a second of the national title games over the last four years. Why bother watching minor league football?
The NCAA had a chance to be proactive and fix the situation and punted. All they had to do was allow kids to transfer, without penalty, when a head coach leaves. The average fan understands that it is completely unfair that a coach can switch jobs and go to the highest bidder and a player can not. The NCAA fiddled while college football burned.
People seem to be confusing grad transfers with the Fields/Patterson situations. To be a grad transfer, you need to have completed your undergrad degree in 4 years (Hurts did it in 2.5), have a year of eligibility left and enroll in a grad program which your university doesn’t offer. Hard to accuse someone who has been in a program for, generally, 4 years and finished their degree of lacking loyalty. They are the definition of what college sports are supposed to be about, the student athlete. If they see better opportunities to play elsewhere, or just want to get started on life after football through obtaining a masters in a field that they choose, I have no problem. They have more than fulfilled their end of the bargain, starting with getting a degree in four years or less.
The transfer rule exists to safeguard against the very thing many are complaining against, perceived free-agency. Take it away and it will be open recruitment for everyone, every year. Total chaos. If you think big money college sports are corrupt now, wait until that happens.
The transfer rule exists to safeguard against the very thing many are complaining against, perceived free-agency. Take it away and it will be open recruitment for everyone, every year. Total chaos. If you think big money college sports are corrupt now, wait until that happens.
I think if a player is unhappy he should be able to leave the current location but they have to find a way to stop the rich getting richer and the chances of some really shady recruting and players running for the top schools.
How about any player can transfer without sitting out if he transfers to a team outside the top 25 in the final CFB Playoff Poll. If he transfers to a team inside the top 25 he will have to sit out a year.
How about any player can transfer without sitting out if he transfers to a team outside the top 25 in the final CFB Playoff Poll. If he transfers to a team inside the top 25 he will have to sit out a year.
It’s simple. Don’t like it. Don’t follow the game. Players should be allowed this as coaches have done this for years.
Look at it from another perspective. Kid has been in a program for x number of years. Indications, from whatever source, are that he's not going to get much, if any, playing time. But he thinks he can play, wants to play, for whatever reason. What's he supposed to do? Subordinate his interests for those of a coach, a coach that can move on to another job at the drop of a hat, a coach that can get rid of him to make room for an incoming recruit? That's the cold, hard reality of today and the kids didn't make it.
The NCAA didn't punt anything. Its member schools did. Allowing players to transfer w/o penalty keeps coming up in legislation, and keeps getting shot down.
I disagree with this sentiment. Take the case of Joe Burrow who transferred from OSU to LSU. (Realize he was a grad transfer different from Fields situation, but I believe general principles are comparable) He was a warrior for LSU this year. Completed 75% of his passes against Texas A & M and ran 29 times for 100 yards in a 7 overtime game. Took a vicious hit in the bowl game against UCF. Was 21 of 34 for 3 touchdowns. Very good player, but not as good as Haskins.
Burrow was a loyal teammate while at OSU. Had no opportunity to play at OSU because he was behind an extremely good qb. He could be a 3rd round draft pick and potentially play 10 years in the NFL if he gets enough college reps. Very happy that he could transfer and develop his skills somewhere other than OSU. He needs to, and has every right, to look out for himself and the potential money he may make in the NFL.
Also, if Martell leaves OSU because he feels he won't play behind Fields, more power to him. I wish him well wherever he may go. He is a very talented qb and has every right to develop and showcase his skills elsewhere if need be.
The simple fact of the matter is that the college money sports, essentially football and men’s basketball are not amateur sports. They are essentially minor league programs for the NFL and NBA. This will continue to be the case until those professional sports develop real minor league systems. While it may happen with the NBA, especially if the one year rule goes away, it will never happen in football, where the cost structure of a minor league system is prohibitive.
People want the NCAA to do something. Well, they already do. What do you think funds all the rest of the P5 athletic programs? The NCAA’s approach is to use the money from those sports to subsidize other ones.
Ultimately, we, as fans, are to blame, as we are the ones that put the money into the system.
People want the NCAA to do something. Well, they already do. What do you think funds all the rest of the P5 athletic programs? The NCAA’s approach is to use the money from those sports to subsidize other ones.
Ultimately, we, as fans, are to blame, as we are the ones that put the money into the system.
It’s very easy to preach loyalty and sacrifice when it has no effect on you. You are arguing that players should be forced to stay in a situation they are uncomfortable with because it enhances your entertainment 12 Saturdays per year.
My only issue with the transfer dynamics is that kids can make shortsighted decisions and leave when they’d be better served in the long run gutting through the adversity. I have zero sympathy for fans or coaches who just expect a player to stay because it makes the team better.
Times change my friend. College football is the NFL minor league. It always has been. Anybody who wishes things should always just stay the same is going to be disappointed for the rest of their life. In 20 years people will be wishing CFB looked like it does today because things will be different in 20 years, too.
The world will always evolve and change and that includes CFB. Wishing for the "good old days" has been around since the beginning of time.
The role of leadership is to build the needed consensus to actually solve problems, not just talk about them- the NCAA has no leadership.
I have a hard time seeing how a player is better off staying and sitting on the bench. I can just see someone teaching his grandchildren an object lesson, "Kids, I'm the man I am today because I stayed for my final year at Drinkwater U to hold up the offensive signal signs, you know the ones with the picture of Super Mario on them, for the team."
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That concern can be applied to almost everyone. Every other adult is allowed to make their own choice. Why should college football players be treated differently? Do you care if a 20 year old quits a job he dosen’t like because it may have been better for him in the long run to stay? Should there be some oversight board telling that 20 year old that it, the board, knows what’s best for him and he can’t quit his job?
Definitely agree. I’m not saying it’s a reason to restrict kids through official means, I just hope that the kids are making good choices in conjunction with their support system and not going from the frying pan to the fire because some jackass coach at a new school sold them a bill of goods.
Agreed!
No loyalty to a program.
Just put out a tweet about "How you talked to God and God advised you to transfer out".
Yea right!
loyal...you mean like Josh Gattis loyal? Or joe Moorhead loyal?Agreed!
No loyalty to a program.
Just put out a tweet about "How you talked to God and God advised you to transfer out".
Yea right!
On the bright side, if you are an annual contender for the playoffs, you now have your own Division 1 Farm System.
The Power 5 conferences are like AAA Minors, the other ones are like AA, etc.
Alabama needs a QB? Get an experienced starter from TCU.
OSU needs a RB? Get a 4-star backup from Wisconsin.
I actually changed my thinking on this issue after reading Art's post about it. He made a great point about a player who thinks he has the ability to play but can't get the chance at his current school.
A potential negative aspect seems to be for non-national powerhouse programs who will have to keep an emerging star sophomore from jumping to a playoff contender.
The Power 5 conferences are like AAA Minors, the other ones are like AA, etc.
Alabama needs a QB? Get an experienced starter from TCU.
OSU needs a RB? Get a 4-star backup from Wisconsin.
I actually changed my thinking on this issue after reading Art's post about it. He made a great point about a player who thinks he has the ability to play but can't get the chance at his current school.
A potential negative aspect seems to be for non-national powerhouse programs who will have to keep an emerging star sophomore from jumping to a playoff contender.
Only when the folks who’ve been on the bottom of the ladder - - - despite being the ones most responsible for fueling the revenue-generating machineLots of folks seem to look at the “transfer portal” as if it is some shocking transformation...... and now, for the first time, they are seeing $$$$ College Football as something other than a bucolic pastime.
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The kids were - obviously
The “free market opportunities” (as limited as they are.... and “as they are” are still VERY limited) making their way to the labor force are still a pimple on an elephant’s ass in relation to the blatant whoring-out of the game that has been utilized by the Coaches, Administrators, University President’s, Sports Media etc etc etc etc etc ....... for DECADES.
Only when the folks who’ve been on the bottom of the ladder - - - despite being the ones most responsible for fueling the revenue-generating machine - - - get even a slight taste of self-control, does the general public have an issue.
Isn't that the way America works? The people at the bottom do all the work and the few at the top get the money and credit.
Thankfully I live in the Lehigh Valley. I can watch Lehigh play decent quality football without the hype and crap of D-1. I'll always love PSU but the fact is the new rules will put the money game on steroids. No thanks. I will not be surprised if only two or three schools (Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, maybe Georgia) win championships for the foreseeable future. All the rest are really playing meaningless football and spending millions to do so allowing a handful of players to attempt to make the NFL. D-1AA and local high school still makes the game fun for me. Others can disagree, I'll go with the pure play you can have your portal.
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