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True Rivalry game vs PITT...

As a point of reference, the only college administrator I have any respect for is Alan Brinkley.

The nature of the beast is that they are academics who like to play politics, a dangerous combination. Most are perpetual gamesmen.
It's hard to make a judgement about a guy who has been doing a job for years when many have no experience or idea what the job entails. Unless you know exactly what these Presidents encountered daily I can't see how somebody not in that position can really make an educated assessment.
 
Out of 100 Pitt fans how many do you think are vile? Could it be possible that there are as many Penn St fans with fan etiquette issues? I just can't see how you can make a blanket statement like that.


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No.
 
What a worthless post, why waste your time? Obviously I am not basing my opinion of his intelligence solely on the fact he can't navigate the new format. But why not throw it on the pile?



If you have to ask this question, you just aren't paying attention. Pitt fans... nearly all of them. But I must point out that not all Pitt grads are Pitt fans. It's not like going to PSU. Many go to Pitt, study, graduate and move on, either ignoring sports or cheering for PSU like the rest of the normal people in the state.



Apples and Oranges. 2001 is not "ages". Those schools respect each other, the fan bases respect each other. Army fans don't act like vile children towards Navy fans just because they have a better program at the moment. Army led the series as recently as 2006, it's been fairly competitive. Pitt/PSU hasn't been competitive since 1981, and really only for a few years while Pitt was cheating.



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What a worthless post, why waste your time? Obviously I am not basing my opinion of his intelligence solely on the fact he can't navigate the new format. But why not throw it on the pile?



If you have to ask this question, you just aren't paying attention. Pitt fans... nearly all of them. But I must point out that not all Pitt grads are Pitt fans. It's not like going to PSU. Many go to Pitt, study, graduate and move on, either ignoring sports or cheering for PSU like the rest of the normal people in the state.



Apples and Oranges. 2001 is not "ages". Those schools respect each other, the fan bases respect each other. Army fans don't act like vile children towards Navy fans just because they have a better program at the moment. Army led the series as recently as 2006, it's been fairly competitive. Pitt/PSU hasn't been competitive since 1981, and really only for a few years while Pitt
What a worthless post, why waste your time? Obviously I am not basing my opinion of his intelligence solely on the fact he can't navigate the new format. But why not throw it on the pile?



If you have to ask this question, you just aren't paying attention. Pitt fans... nearly all of them. But I must point out that not all Pitt grads are Pitt fans. It's not like going to PSU. Many go to Pitt, study, graduate and move on, either ignoring sports or cheering for PSU like the rest of the normal people in the state.



Apples and Oranges. 2001 is not "ages". Those schools respect each other, the fan bases respect each other. Army fans don't act like vile children towards Navy fans just because they have a better program at the moment. Army led the series as recently as 2006, it's been fairly competitive. Pitt/PSU hasn't been competitive since 1981, and really only for a few years while Pitt


Well why is it necessary to bring his blank post up in the first place? You wasted space when you could have just made your point without trying to down grade people. Your completely off base in your assessment of how many Pitt fans are bad people. I will go as far as to say your delusional if you think anywhere near a majority of their fan base are bad people. Also 14 years without a win qualifies as ages. Fourteen years is a long time in the world of college football. The last ten years of the Pitt series was easily as competetive as the Army - Navy series has been. Also your way off on the Pitt grads all become Penn State fans.From bringing up the guys blank post to label him dumb then following that with ridiculous (at best) assertions on the amount of bad Pitt fans and not thinking 14 years is a long time in college football. No critical thinker would agree with you on just about anything you posted. Talk about a worthless post.You got nothing correct.
 
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[Q so soSo 't't'UOTE=" Ranger Dan, post: 280017, member: 3512"]Yes, and it's been a long time since Pitt won one of their nine national championships or double digit wins...[/QUOTE]
army has not beat Navy since 2001. it's irrelevant. Alabama beat Auburn 10 years in a row before Bo Jackson came along. You don't Stop playing rivalry games because one team gets a little edge.If so Pitt would Have stopped playing Penn State long ago when Penn State was not competitive with them.
 
What a worthless post, why waste your time? Obviously I am not basing my opinion of his intelligence solely on the fact he can't navigate the new format. But why not throw it on the pile?



If you have to ask this question, you just aren't paying attention. Pitt fans... nearly all of them. But I must point out that not all Pitt grads are Pitt fans. It's not like going to PSU. Many go to Pitt, study, graduate and move on, either ignoring sports or cheering for PSU like the rest of the normal people in the state.



Apples and Oranges. 2001 is not "ages". Those schools respect each other, the fan bases respect each other. Army fans don't act like vile children towards Navy fans just because they have a better program at the moment. Army led the series as recently as 2006, it's been fairly competitive. Pitt/PSU hasn't been competitive since 1981, and really only for a few years while Pitt was cheating.


Well why is it necessary to bring his blank post up in the first place? You wasted space when you could have just made your point without trying to down grade people. Your completely off base in your assessment of how many Pitt fans are bad people. I will go as far as to say your delusional if you think anywhere near a majority of their fan base are bad people. Also 14 years without a win qualifies as ages. Fourteen years is a long time in the world of college football
 
Comparing us to Pitt 1991 to 2014 (Dating back to them joining a conference and us soon after)

Pitt: 141-147 (5-8 in bowls) Played in 2 New Years Day Bowls. (1-5 vs. PSU)

PSU: 203-94 (12-6 in bowls) Played in 13 New Years Day Bowls (5-1 vs. Pitt)

I don't think Pitt warrants 1 out of our 3 non-conference spots every single year.
 
What a worthless post, why waste your time? Obviously I am not basing my opinion of his intelligence solely on the fact he can't navigate the new format. But why not throw it on the pile?



If you have to ask this question, you just aren't paying attention. Pitt fans... nearly all of them. But I must point out that not all Pitt grads are Pitt fans. It's not like going to PSU. Many go to Pitt, study, graduate and move on, either ignoring sports or cheering for PSU like the rest of the normal people in the state.



Apples and Oranges. 2001 is not "ages". Those schools respect each other, the fan bases respect each other. Army fans don't act like vile children towards Navy fans just because they have a better program at the moment. Army led the series as recently as 2006, it's been fairly competitive. Pitt/PSU hasn't been competitive since 1981, and really only for a few years while Pitt was cheating.

pitt-Penn State would be better if the pitters showed Penn State the proper respect.
 
Comparing us to Pitt 1991 to 2014 (Dating back to them joining a conference and us soon after)

Pitt: 141-147 (5-8 in bowls) Played in 2 New Years Day Bowls. (1-5 vs. PSU)

PSU: 203-94 (12-6 in bowls) Played in 13 New Years Day Bowls (5-1 vs. Pitt)

I don't think Pitt warrants 1 out of our 3 non-conference spots every single year.


Yes.

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Comparing us to Pitt 1991 to 2014 (Dating back to them joining a conference and us soon after)

Pitt: 141-147 (5-8 in bowls) Played in 2 New Years Day Bowls. (1-5 vs. PSU)

PSU: 203-94 (12-6 in bowls) Played in 13 New Years Day Bowls (5-1 vs. Pitt)

I don't think Pitt warrants 1 out of our 3 non-conference spots every single year.

Speaking objectively, a conclusion I draw is that pitt does not have a good football program. Penn State is decidedly better.
 
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Given your apparent troubles navigating the new message board format, I completely understand why "your" so sensitive about people piling on for making trivial mistakes. Although come to think of it, this format is not really new, it's been around for AGES. Anyway, space on the internet is cheap, and making a Pitt loser look slightly worse is never a waste. You've obviously never met any Pitt fans, so stop chiming in a subject of which you know nothing.

Also, you failed to address most of the facts I posted about Army/Navy. About the mutual respect, the historical competitiveness, and that army led the series as recently as NINE years ago.
 
Comparing us to Pitt 1991 to 2014 (Dating back to them joining a conference and us soon after)

Pitt: 141-147 (5-8 in bowls) Played in 2 New Years Day Bowls. (1-5 vs. PSU)

PSU: 203-94 (12-6 in bowls) Played in 13 New Years Day Bowls (5-1 vs. Pitt)

I don't think Pitt warrants 1 out of our 3 non-conference spots every single year.
Would you have said that when Pitt had a decent lead in the series? Everybody seems to want to take a last ten years snap shot after Pitt lost two very good coaches in Majors and Sherril. If Pitt would come back on the schedule it would be highly anticipated by both fan bases. Hopefully Franklin feels the same as me.
 
[ . QUO TE="r alpieE is, post: 291348, member: 19407"]Yes.

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Why don't you compare Navy and Army or Alabama and Auburn before Bo Jackson arrived at Auburn. How about Ohio State and Michigan, is that no longer a traditional game because Ohio State has been dominating the Wolverines. The two main schools in the most tradition laden football state in the nation don't play each other. That is really hard to believe.
 
Given your apparent troubles navigating the new message board format, I completely understand why "your" so sensitive about people piling on for making trivial mistakes. Although come to think of it, this format is not really new, it's been around for AGES. Anyway, space on the internet is cheap, and making a Pitt loser look slightly worse is never a waste. You've obviously never met any Pitt fans, so stop chiming in a subject of which you know nothing.

Also, you failed to address most of the facts I posted about Army/Navy. About the mutual respect, the historical competitiveness, and that army led the series as recently as NINE years ago.
I am human. Never mind that plenty of people screw up posts on this board .You got zero right. When did you decide that you were smarter than everybody else? You think a blank post or a misplaced clipboard paste makes you correct? So what that Army led the series nine years ago. Yeah they have a traditional history with Navy. Penn State and Pitt played more than 90 times. Was that no big deal? You got the Pitt grads are Penn St. fans thing wrong. You did not like it when I called you on the demeaning tactic you tried to use to prove your point and you went on to throw ridiculous assertions around about allegiance and such. Throwing in the straw man of avoiding the Army vs Navy historical angle takes the cake. I am sorry I did not address everything like the Warren commision. All your points are weak.
 
[QUO TE="pandaczar12, post: 291567, member: 8092"]Given your apparent troubles navigating the new message board format, I completely understand why "your" so sensitive about people piling on for making trivial mistakes. Although come to think of it, this format is not really new, it's been around for AGES. Anyway, space on the internet is cheap, and making a Pitt loser look slightly worse is never a waste. You've obviously never met any Pitt fans, so stop chiming in a subject of which you know nothing.

Also, you failed to address most of the facts I posted about Army/Navy. About the mutual respect, the historical competitiveness, and that army led the series as recently as NINE years ago.[/QUOTE]
Dude how jaded can you be to claim all Pitt fans are screwed up? Nobody with any sense of reason would agree with that. To make that claim is much more telling than any common message board error.
 
LOL. Why do you have so much damn trouble with something so simple as a message board? You respond multiple times, you can't properly quote. I can't tell which post I'm supposed to respond to. Granted none of them have anything of substance to respond to. Add to that you can't seem to read very well (i.e. I never said ALL Pitt fans), and your common grammar mistakes... why do you think anyone should take you seriously? "Your" the guy who's resume I throw out before even looking at it!

Stop with the distraction, I'm still waiting for you to address the mutual respect between Army/Navy. It's no surprise you have avoided the most salient point thus far.

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I am human. Never mind that plenty of people screw up posts on this board .You got zero right. When did you decide that you were smarter than everybody else? You think a blank post or a misplaced clipboard paste makes you correct? So what that Army led the series nine years ago. Yeah they have a traditional history with Navy. Penn State and Pitt played more than 90 times. Was that no big deal? You got the Pitt grads are Penn St. fans thing wrong. You did not like it when I called you on the demeaning tactic you tried to use to prove your point and you went on to throw ridiculous assertions around about allegiance and such. Throwing in the straw man of avoiding the Army vs Navy historical angle takes the cake. I am sorry I did not address everything like the Warren commision. All your points are weak.

Give it up.
 
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how many people are showing up at Philadelphia Phillies games? does that mean that nobody cares about them around the state?


Frankly, yes. Most people in PA don't give a damn about the Phillies outside of the SEPA counties (and even there it depends if they are winning or not).
 
Suffice to say, if SEPA stopped posting here about Pitt/PSU, most of the chatter about this "rivalry" would die out.

Well said. In addition to my years in State College, I've also lived at both ends of the state. Barely any PSU fans want to play Pitt. There are more in western PA, which wouldn't surprise anyone. But out East, no one really cares.
 
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It's hard to make a judgement about a guy who has been doing a job for years when many have no experience or idea what the job entails. Unless you know exactly what these Presidents encountered daily I can't see how somebody not in that position can really make an educated assessment.

I have enough of an understanding of the job to render an opinion. Experience? Lacking in areas, but nothing that a 2-3 month learning curve wouldn't remedy. Your job? I could probably regress for 4-5 years.
 
This thread runs 4 pages (and going further) with 182 replies and almost 2,700 views. YEAH I would say we most definitely see Pitt as a our main (and probably only rival (doubt Rutgers, MD, Mich or OSU would prompt such passionate responses). Even the so-called "no votes," by their responses, seem to implicitly acknowledge the rivalry. Let's embrace it.
 
This thread runs 4 pages (and going further) with 182 replies and almost 2,700 views. YEAH I would say we most definitely see Pitt as a our main (and probably only rival (doubt Rutgers, MD, Mich or OSU would prompt such passionate responses). Even the so-called "no votes," by their responses, seem to implicitly acknowledge the rivalry. Let's embrace it.

Jeeze, most of the posters are trying to fight off the few who want it. Why would we embrace it?
 
This thread runs 4 pages (and going further) with 182 replies and almost 2,700 views. YEAH I would say we most definitely see Pitt as a our main (and probably only rival (doubt Rutgers, MD, Mich or OSU would prompt such passionate responses). Even the so-called "no votes," by their responses, seem to implicitly acknowledge the rivalry. Let's embrace it.

I realize that on the lair, no thread reaches the lofty heights of 4 pages. But don't get excited, Pitt is still not relevant.
 
Barbour and Franklin need to rethink this. This will make what Rutgers did look like Sunday School. We weren't even playing them, and one of the fools was wearing a "Pedo Bear" (whatever the hell that is) suit to their games. This has the potential for ugliness, violence and vandalism.
 
Barbour and Franklin need to rethink this. This will make what Rutgers did look like Sunday School. We weren't even playing them, and one of the fools was wearing a "Pedo Bear" (whatever the hell that is) suit to their games. This has the potential for ugliness, violence and vandalism.
Ugliness and vandalism.... thought you were referring to the post Joepa "demonstration" in Happy Valley...sorry .. my bad
 
Barbour and Franklin need to rethink this. This will make what Rutgers did look like Sunday School. We weren't even playing them, and one of the fools was wearing a "Pedo Bear" (whatever the hell that is) suit to their games. This has the potential for ugliness, violence and vandalism.

Unfortunately it's too late for that. You have to assume that the contract calls for hefty buyouts for us to cancel. As stupid as an idea this was to begin with we're stuck with it.
 
Ugliness and vandalism.... thought you were referring to the post Joepa "demonstration" in Happy Valley...sorry .. my bad

I thought he was talking about a Tuesday afternoon in Oakland.

Pitt fans have some real issues.
 
Ugliness and vandalism.... thought you were referring to the post Joepa "demonstration" in Happy Valley...sorry .. my bad

That's OK. As a Pitt guy, you aren't used to seeing big crowds for anything, big or small. Even your riots would be miniscule, if anybody ever cared to riot about anything in Oakland other than the threat of scrubbing down the O.

But thanks again for revealing precisely why we should never, ever, play Pitt again.
 
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