Thanks.
Interesting the Cowboys use 2 competition dates for their non starters.
Tuesday Dec 19th - good dual to watch on Flo
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Interesting the Cowboys use 2 competition dates for their non starters.
I think Meredith could beat him at sea level as well, but I agree that the altitude appeared to have an impact, especially with so many other OSU guys looking gassed late. I don't pay attention to rankings in December but in my mind, Heil is still the guy to beat at 141. Tough rankings quandary b/c three guys have a decent argument for the top spot.
Like the Yarygin. Just kidding.
I rolled my eyes at that tweet not b/c Snyder has feet in two worlds, but for the rhetorical ploy of obtusely missing someone's point to make an unrelated one. World peace matters as well but it's not germane to the point Yianni was making.
Actually it's the truth. The entire journey of the season is a preparation for post-season success. However, you are right. You never ever hear a Michigan State basketball player explain a December loss to Duke as no biggie because its just practice for March.
The need to succeed at any competition within competitive athletes is a need that runs to the soul. The words Lewis uttered are very telling. He already knows he isn't wrestling for a championship
So, people are actually saying it's the altitude that limited Heil's offense.
The kid has a 37% lifetime bonus rate, more decisions where he scored 3 points or less than you can shake a stick at, and this board has been riding him for three years that he has no offense. But, now, it's the altitude. Well, okay-dokey, then.
The kid has a 37% lifetime bonus rate, more decisions where he scored 3 points or less than you can shake a stick at, and this board has been riding him for three years that he has no offense. But, now, it's the altitude. Well, okay-dokey, then.
That can all be true and the altitude can still have impacted the outcome.
Haha, I thought similarly. It was moving the goalposts, but leaving some crumbs behind ("Rankings are cool.") to portray some relationship between the two points.
He looked extremely skilled and his results right now have to be causing him a lot of emotional turmoil. Okst in general looks like it has lost it's killer instinct. That having been said I've wrestled at altitude it is a real thing. I think this result has to be taken with a grain of salt.
All this talk about elevation got me curious so I looked it up and the University of Wyoming is at an elevation of 7,220 feet! That's 2,000 feet higher than Denver and 1,200 higher than Colorado Springs. Can't be too many college campuses higher than that (literally not figuratively). Maybe the University of Tibet?
Had to look it up. Western State Colorado University is higher (elevation-wise), then there's this College...
Colorado Mountain College
Leadville, Colorado (elev. 10,152 feet)
Sitting at more than 10,000 ft. above sea level, Colorado Mountain College isn't just the highest school on our list — it has the highest campus in the country. It is also a snow bunny's paradise. According to its official website, this community college's service area includes 15 of the state's 25 major ski areas, and nine of the institution's alums competed in the 2010 winter Olympic Games in Vancouver. It is also known for its notable graduation and student transfer rates, which earned it a spot among CNNMoney's top 20 two-year colleges in the country in 2012.
I'm saying the altitude kept him stuck on bottom.
Kinda like deadlifting in Columbus.
I didn't see Monday, but last night he went big in the first and got sixed, then came back to lose 11-10.
Had to look it up. Western State Colorado University is higher (elevation-wise), then there's this College...
This is real close to where I live. Babies born at this altitude are put on oxygen. Many locals get a weird blood disorder that can only be cured by draining blood each month to avoid clots from having too many red blood cells. I live above 8,000 feet and a normal pulse ox reading for locals is around 95. In other words, people's body performs at only 95% of capacity for even those acclimated. I train here for cycling and can put out about 30 more watts of power at sea level, which is huge. Altitude matters! Even when people think they are acclimated, it can diminish performance. Bo Pipher may be able to explain the effects on wrestling better.
FYI, that is Mt. Massive in the background. It is the 4th highest peak in the continental U.S. It gets its name because over 1/2 square mile is above 14,000 feet.
Colorado Mountain College
Leadville, Colorado (elev. 10,152 feet)
Sitting at more than 10,000 ft. above sea level, Colorado Mountain College isn't just the highest school on our list — it has the highest campus in the country. It is also a snow bunny's paradise. According to its official website, this community college's service area includes 15 of the state's 25 major ski areas, and nine of the institution's alums competed in the 2010 winter Olympic Games in Vancouver. It is also known for its notable graduation and student transfer rates, which earned it a spot among CNNMoney's top 20 two-year colleges in the country in 2012.
Altitude issues or not, what I took from these results was that we'll have a two team race for the championship. And the pokes aren't one of those two teams.
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I already thought that. OSU has a really good team and you never know what might happen but as of now they are not a threat to win the team title in March.
Yeah he just ran out of time trying to come back from that deficit. He can be his own worst enemy at times, he really should be undefeated this year if he wrestled a little smarter. He shouldn't have lost to Scott Parker either.
I am shocked that this information has, so far, elicited no snow bunny pics.Had to look it up. Western State Colorado University is higher (elevation-wise), then there's this College...
Colorado Mountain College
Leadville, Colorado (elev. 10,152 feet)
Sitting at more than 10,000 ft. above sea level, Colorado Mountain College isn't just the highest school on our list — it has the highest campus in the country. It is also a snow bunny's paradise. According to its official website, this community college's service area includes 15 of the state's 25 major ski areas, and nine of the institution's alums competed in the 2010 winter Olympic Games in Vancouver. It is also known for its notable graduation and student transfer rates, which earned it a spot among CNNMoney's top 20 two-year colleges in the country in 2012.
I call BS on the altitude excuse. Heil has always wrestled too close to the vest and many have said one day it will come back and bite him in the a**. Well, that is exactly what happened.
He is no longer the favorite at 141. Period. I'd bet a large sum on Yianni to take him out. Others I'd take also. His fragile rein is over.
He is no longer the favorite at 141. Period. I'd bet a large sum on Yianni to take him out. Others I'd take also. His fragile rein is over.
I agree completely that Heil wrestles close to the vest and has a lot of tight matches as a result. However....I can assure you that wrestling or any form of strenuous exercise at over 6000 ft. is going to tap your Oxygen supply much quicker than at lower elevations. I spent a lot of time in the Littleton-Red Rock area....elevation 6400-7500 ft. The thinner air and lower pressure affects many things. They have high-altitude cookbooks ( water typically boiled at about 180-185 degrees) and we had to use high altitude tennis balls. Cars would overheat at over 9000 ft.and cars with carburetors would stall out for lack of air (Oxygen ) at about 10,000ft. I remember the parking lot at Eisenhower Pass had many cars that wouldn't run. I adjusted the air/fuel mixture on a handful of cars. Try running about 200 yards at 6000 ft. Your pulse is faster and your heart beats harder....trying to get more Oxygen. There is no doubt the elevation affected each wrestler. There were a lot of gassed Pokes last night. Heil was clearly one of them. Can Bryce win at sea level? Definitely but last night the elevation was a home field advantage for certain.
Good thing Hail cause he would have lost if the rule were in effect last year....Pinned anyway at least twice...It's the blades of the shoulders....Just saying....
Yea I guess most presumed the pokes weren't serious title contenders....now it just seems like their odds just got a bit longer.
We can speculate on home field advantage for weeks and it is still just that, speculation.
Meredith beat him fair and square. No excuses.
As it stands now Heil is more a 3 seed than a two time champ. He and Cowboy Nation have to live with that.
Just guessing, but by the time we get to Cleveland Heil will more than a 3 seed and closer to a 2 time.
Disclaimer. I could be full of baloney though.
I look forward to McKenna getting the 6 or 7 seed, and having both Heil and Meredith in his half of the bracket.
Haven't seen any excuses. And I am dang sure John won't let anyone use it as an excuse, as he did this on purpose-2nd day weigh in and conditioning stress coming off finals week to start breaking them in, since they won't be at the scuffle. And not too worried about Dean losing one either. Has it out of the way now, the pressure is off, and he can just go out and wrestle rather than worry about it.
And what kind of moron came up with that "Cowboy (or any other) Nation" crap anyway? Must have been a Dallas Cowboy thing...
I don't believe I was speculating. I thought I used science to show that gassing more quickly at higher altitude was a fact of science......and definitely an advantage for the team that trains at that altitude ( and higher ). I did use the word "certain". I believe the only speculation would be whether Heil's gassing was the reason he lost. I have a feeling that we shall get the answer at Big 12's and beyond.
Which brings up an interesting question for future Big 12s. Does the new Big 12 rotate their championship among all of the schools like the BIG does? If so, one of these years it will be at Wyoming.
You are suggesting that you "proved" Heil was gassing on Sunday?
We'll just have to disagree here.
Haven't seen any excuses. And I am dang sure John won't let anyone use it as an excuse, as he did this on purpose-2nd day weigh in and conditioning stress coming off finals week to start breaking them in, since they won't be at the scuffle. And not too worried about Dean losing one either. Has it out of the way now, the pressure is off, and he can just go out and wrestle rather than worry about it.
And what kind of moron came up with that "Cowboy (or any other) Nation" crap anyway? Must have been a Dallas Cowboy thing...
I thought the same thing about Heil. Take some pressure off and maybe light a fire. Anyone can feel free to bet against him, but seems to me people have been doing it for the last couple of years. Not me. Someone beats him in March and only then will I say he isn't 1.
Smith, like Cael, is always finding ways to prepare guys. That is all this was. Part of the process (see Joel Embiid).
As to the Cowboy nation, if you are talking Dallas Cowboys and morons, you must be on track....
Dallas Cowboys and morons? In the same sentence?
Redundant. Don't you think?
Redundant. Don't you think?
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