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Tuesday Dec 19th - good dual to watch on Flo

You are suggesting that you "proved" Heil was gassing on Sunday?

We'll just have to disagree here.
If Heil didn't gas during rideouts, then please explain what he was doing in the tweet that Dunk posted above.
 
Which brings up an interesting question for future Big 12s. Does the new Big 12 rotate their championship among all of the schools like the BIG does? If so, one of these years it will be at Wyoming.
The plan is to have Big XII at neutral (or at least off campus) sites. Tulsa I believe has 2 more years.
 
You are suggesting that you "proved" Heil was gassing on Sunday?

We'll just have to disagree here.
Dean definitely gassed. He could barely get up off the mat at the end of the match. But that is on him. Meredith was on the same mat. Dean has wrestled in Wyoming before, so the altitude was no surprise. Was actually lower altitude than a true Wyoming home match, as stated above.

Betcha a dollar than you won't hear Dean use it as an excuse.
 
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Dean definitely gassed. He could barely get up off the mat at the end of the match. But that is on him. Meredith was on the same mat. Dean has wrestled in Wyoming before, so the altitude was no surprise. Was actually lower altitude than a true Wyoming home match, as stated above.

Betcha a dollar than you won't hear Dean use it as an excuse.
BTW all you easterners, let me tell you something important;) Yes Laramie is 7200 ft up but the match was in Cheyenne which is barely 5000 ft. Just thought you all should know. Trust me I lived in Laramie for 25 years and 72000 ft is different than 5000 ft - which of course is still different than sea level:eek:
 
BTW all you easterners, let me tell you something important;) Yes Laramie is 7200 ft up but the match was in Cheyenne which is barely 5000 ft. Just thought you all should know. Trust me I lived in Laramie for 25 years and 72000 ft is different than 5000 ft - which of course is still different than sea level:eek:
I agree, 72000 ft is different than 5000 ft ;). You made that one a little too easy...
 
I agree, 72000 ft is different than 5000 ft ;). You made that one a little too easy...

I believe the point to be made here is that the effect on the human body at elevation is not linear. In other words the difference between 5000 and 7200 probably feels just as bad than the effect felt going from sea level to 5000 feet.
 
I believe the point to be made here is that the effect on the human body at elevation is not linear. In other words the difference between 5000 and 7200 probably feels just as bad than the effect felt going from sea level to 5000 feet.
Too serious?? Since you quoted my post, just pointing out that the extra "0" is what my light-hearted FUN was about :).
 
I believe the point to be made here is that the effect on the human body at elevation is not linear. In other words the difference between 5000 and 7200 probably feels just as bad than the effect felt going from sea level to 5000 feet.
I don't believe it is linear either. Personally, about 5000 is where you start noticing a difference coming from 1000, 6000 is much worse, and 7000 is a killer. Two days to get my air back driving into Keystone or Vail. But then I am old and out of shape. :(

Edit-should have said I not you. Each is different.
 
He is no longer the favorite at 141. Period. I'd bet a large sum on Yianni to take him out. Others I'd take also. His fragile rein is over.

Why is he no longer the favorite? He's still the 2-time defending champion, he's beaten Meredith 4 times before, and he's 55-1 in his last 56 matches. I get that he lost a close match (finally), but I don't see how he isn't the favorite still. If he loses to Meredith at Big 12s or Kevin Jack in Italy, then I think you will have a point. It's far too early to declare him done for a 3-peat.
 
Why is he no longer the favorite? He's still the 2-time defending champion, he's beaten Meredith 4 times before, and he's 55-1 in his last 56 matches. I get that he lost a close match (finally), but I don't see how he isn't the favorite still. If he loses to Meredith at Big 12s or Kevin Jack in Italy, then I think you will have a point. It's far too early to declare him done for a 3-peat.
Yeah, but what elevation are they wrestling at in Italy?;)
I agree he should still be considered the favorite over Meredith and Jack, not so sure if I would favor him over Yanni.
 
Yeah, but what elevation are they wrestling at in Italy?;)
I agree he should still be considered the favorite over Meredith and Jack, not so sure if I would favor him over Yanni.

How far about the water line is the deck of an aircraft carrier? I believe that is the elevation they will be wrestling at. :cool:

Meanwhile, I agree that IMHO Yanni is the favorite, but it is so close it is very much up for grabs. IMHO, that are at least 6-7 wrestlers at 141 that can win in March.
 
Dean definitely gassed. He could barely get up off the mat at the end of the match. But that is on him. Meredith was on the same mat. Dean has wrestled in Wyoming before, so the altitude was no surprise. Was actually lower altitude than a true Wyoming home match, as stated above.

Betcha a dollar than you won't hear Dean use it as an excuse.
The next best thing is we won’t see any tweets from his coach using it as an excuse either. If there’s a dude who believes you need to “Cowboy Up” when it comes to adversity, it’s Coach Smith
 
Why is he no longer the favorite? He's still the 2-time defending champion, he's beaten Meredith 4 times before, and he's 55-1 in his last 56 matches. I get that he lost a close match (finally), but I don't see how he isn't the favorite still. If he loses to Meredith at Big 12s or Kevin Jack in Italy, then I think you will have a point. It's far too early to declare him done for a 3-peat.
If NCAA seeding were done today, it would be 1 Yianni, 2 Meredith, 3 Heil.

If Yianni gets past Eierman on 12/29, then his schedule screams undefeated #1 seed. So he's probably the favorite as of today.

Plus Heil could get McKenna in the quarters.
 
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If NCAA seeding were done today, it would be 1 Yianni, 2 Meredith, 3 Heil.

If Yianni gets past Eierman on 12/29, then his schedule screams undefeated #1 seed. So he's probably the favorite as of today.

Plus Heil could get McKenna in the quarters.

That's fine but I am not worried about seeding today. Yianni very well may end up 1st seed, but there is a ton of wrestling to go. I am just going to enjoy the ride and see where the rankings are at going into conference championships. I am going to continue to think Heil is the favorite considering his track record.
 
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