Virginia Tech Dual Thread
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No Pa state champ named Bobby Banks. I remember Bobby Banks winning WPIALS in the early 1970's. He was from Kiski Area. My brother beat him in a dual match wrestling for Kiski Prep in 1970.
http://www.piaa.org/assets/web/documents/results/winter/wrestling/ind/Ind_Wr_Past_Champs.pdf
Rasheed will most likely be dominate? Seriously? No idea what that statement is based on, but it seems way, way optimistic, doncha' think? I'll be very pleased with merely "solid" from Rasheed. And if cutting to 165 is giving him difficulty, being consistently "solid" may be a real challenge.
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PSU is
real strong at 125, 149, 157, 174, 184, and 197. All are AA's and several will challenge for titles. Maybe all.
Solid at 133 and 141. Both should qualify and maybe AA.
Questionable at 165. Not enough to judge, yet. Could move up to solid. Boy wouldn't Marsteller look good here?
Weak at 285.
real strong at 125, 149, 157, 174, 184, and 197. All are AA's and several will challenge for titles. Maybe all.
Solid at 133 and 141. Both should qualify and maybe AA.
Questionable at 165. Not enough to judge, yet. Could move up to solid. Boy wouldn't Marsteller look good here?
Weak at 285.
I'm with Dunk on this. We'll find out more when he faces Wilson at Stanford, but let's look at 165: Dieringer, Ike Jordan, maybe BoJo drops back down, then what?
The current #3 (Ethan Ramos) squeaked past Hammond in OT at the Scuffle last year.
The current #5 (Austin Wilson) finished 18-18 last year.
After the top 2 (or 3 if BoJo drops), this is a weight that is ripe for the picking.
Sorry, you are right. Bobby Banks from Kiski Area lost in the finals to Jeremy Hunter 9-4.
No argument with your assessment of the field, but it's not terribly relevant to the statement "Rasheed will most likely be dominant", which you indicate you agree with.
Fine, I hope you are correct. I don't see it at this point, though granted the season just started and a lot can happen in the next 4 months. But "dominate" is a strong term, at least to me. I also note that you provide no justification for your position ....
Just back from Blacksburg.....
Loved Nolf and Nickals (reminiscent of the coming out party we saw for DT and Ruth at the Scuffle held in Greensboro when both were redshirt frosh, at 157 and 174,too); really solid performances against two highly ranked wrestlers
Rasheed obviously ran out of gas.....perhaps he gets adjusted to the cut, but he looks way too tall/large framed to hold that weight effectively.
McCutcheon a pleasant surprise to see how much he has improved.
Loved Nolf and Nickals (reminiscent of the coming out party we saw for DT and Ruth at the Scuffle held in Greensboro when both were redshirt frosh, at 157 and 174,too); really solid performances against two highly ranked wrestlers
Rasheed obviously ran out of gas.....perhaps he gets adjusted to the cut, but he looks way too tall/large framed to hold that weight effectively.
McCutcheon a pleasant surprise to see how much he has improved.
Royboy, I was thinking the same thing about Nolf and Nickels before the match. Eerily similar to Taylor and Ruth. Let's hope it continues.
justification....hmm..
Well...we could trust cael and the words he spoke in several interviews he has given where he raves about Rasheed.
or .......we could look at how the first 2 periods went when he had energy. Maybe you are looking down on McFadden since he didnt have a ranking, thats fair. I think McFadden is undervalued being a true freshman 2x NJ state champ and 3x finalist and will make a name for himself. Well he kind of already did by beating weatherman and losing a close one to Wilson. but if you arent following the sport to closely, i could see where this loss might surprise you. McFadden will be ranked this week.
maybe......I talk to a few people who see what happens in the room and convey to me the talent that Rasheed has. Garret Hammond seems to think Rasheed is pretty good and I happen to think Garret is a good wrestler.
maybe just maybe.....Im off my rocker in which case you have all the justification in the world to bring my "strong term" back up to me after every match this year.
Watching the match again On-demand and just realized the Iranian assistant with the giant beard on VT's bench is actually Mike Zadick.
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nice match today... good seats mat side. Good crowd as well. PSU looked and were more aggressive in every match... hard to believe (aside from HWT) they could have won every bout! Seriously on the aggressiveness..... don't want to jump into the Iowa style but it sure made the 1st periods boring (for the most part)
Nico - he'll be ok..... just a little careless on top allowing that step over. Dance did a nice job throwing legs in and neutralizing him.
JC - nice match all the way around.
JG - did ok. Couldnt get to SCs right leg. JG will be ok... could have finished another shot and shouldn't have allowed the counter to occur on his single. Regardless, NCAA needs to change rules. He clearly had a cradle locked up but no points. That should change especially since the other wrestler wasn't even touching JGs legs..
Zain - not much to say.. this kid beat Devon Carter (once) last year.
Nolf - nice match and in control the entire time.
Rasheed - looked pretty good until he ran out of gas in the 3rd period....
Bo - the one match that I thought VT would win. Bo looked very special.
Matt - looked in control, even with the one slip up giving up 2. You could see his confidence grow after he got back points and took over.
MM - must really torque the back when he turns you up top like he did.
Jan - really wanted to see him go. At least the other heavies aren't necessarily taller!
Good start - early in the season. Wondering if Hammond will show up on the west coast.
Nico - he'll be ok..... just a little careless on top allowing that step over. Dance did a nice job throwing legs in and neutralizing him.
JC - nice match all the way around.
JG - did ok. Couldnt get to SCs right leg. JG will be ok... could have finished another shot and shouldn't have allowed the counter to occur on his single. Regardless, NCAA needs to change rules. He clearly had a cradle locked up but no points. That should change especially since the other wrestler wasn't even touching JGs legs..
Zain - not much to say.. this kid beat Devon Carter (once) last year.
Nolf - nice match and in control the entire time.
Rasheed - looked pretty good until he ran out of gas in the 3rd period....
Bo - the one match that I thought VT would win. Bo looked very special.
Matt - looked in control, even with the one slip up giving up 2. You could see his confidence grow after he got back points and took over.
MM - must really torque the back when he turns you up top like he did.
Jan - really wanted to see him go. At least the other heavies aren't necessarily taller!
Good start - early in the season. Wondering if Hammond will show up on the west coast.
OK, that helps. No one thinks you're nuts, and I'm not a big "I told you so" guy.
Regarding your rationale:
- I'm not big on coach-speak, even from Cael. So that doesn't work for me.
- I don't know much about McFadden, but I know Rasheed is a 2-time New York state champ. So Rasheed has some talent, but that doesn't mean he'll set the world on fire in college. And I had no expectations one way or the other in that bout.
- The 3rd reason is the best one IMO, but again is not close to a guarantee of success.
Hall may not show up for two years! CM would have slotted into 165 right away. Such a shame things turned out the way they did. Somebody was sloppy. Not sure Okie St will workout for CM. Hope it does.
I just watched the match. Kind of interesting to read the dual thread before seeing the actual action.
For those that are interested, you can view the match by going to:
www.espn.go.com/watchespn/index#type/replay/sport/wrestling/
and then selecting the Penn vs. Virginia Tech (Wrestling) link
For those that are interested, you can view the match by going to:
www.espn.go.com/watchespn/index#type/replay/sport/wrestling/
and then selecting the Penn vs. Virginia Tech (Wrestling) link
I'll have to inquire on this. I graduated in 90 and have not recollection of a Banks. Granted he would've been in our feeder program but the name doesn't sound familiar. I'll do a little research because when Cutch won the PA state title his junior year a lot was made of it being Turskys first PIAA champion.
And a kid named Doug Joseph graduated from Kiski Area and went on to win a Division II National Title for Gannon at 197 in 2001. He was a freshman my senior year at Kiski and ended up winning an NCAA Division II title in 2001....but he graduated HS in 93. He started at Syracuse, then went to Duqense (or vice versa) & ultimately ended up at Gannon. To date he is Gannon's only NCAA champion.
Yeah, Bob Banks lost in the PIAA AAA finals to Jeremy Hunter in 1994. Doug Joseph also was a finalist in 1993 I think. He couldn't beat Jason Robison from Hampton. Joseph was an animal, arguably the 2nd best 189 pounder in the country but was unfortunate to have Robison as arguably the best 189 pounder in the WPIAL. I enjoyed watching both of them.
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