Who would you hire to replace Chambers?
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He said he’s not sure if he’ll coach again.
He didn’t really go out on his own terms at Wisconsin, but it’s not like it was bad enough that you’re hiring Todd Bozeman or Kelvin Sampson. I’d certainly kick the tires if we were considering a move.
Why did he go out btw? Wasn’t there something about a trainer/masseuse mistress or something?
I was always a huge bo Ryan fan. Boy was his style boring, but my gosh it was effective. He did amazing things getting 3 star guys to buy into a system and boy was that an effective system. He was a coaching genius and always got the most out of his players. The ball movement on his teams was remarkable, compare that to Pat’s offense which is essentially a pickup game at the YMCA and it shows you how great of a coach Bo was
So exactly what are the pros of keeping him? I see a single pro, his salary is low, which enables Penn State to make a nice profit on basketball due to all the Big Ten shared revenue. Sorry, but in my mind, that is it.
Chambers is a class guy who does things the right way in what is largely a dirty sport. I also appreciate his ever-visible energy and personality. The challenge for Barbour would be to find someone else of such character and charisma who can win. Of course, that is Barbour's job.
Step back to what? There's no step back from irrelevant. Irrelevant is irrelevant. Take a chance. There's literally nothing to lose.
No head coach with a desirable W-L record at a P5 MBB program is coming to Penn State, I don't care how much money Barbour or Barron wave at him. Penn State is known in the profession as a place where you can't win. Highly respected coaches (e.g., Bach, Harter, Parkhill) didn't win consistently at Penn State. Even a coach like Nate Oats (Univ of Buffalo) can wait for an offer at a place where you can win and get money comparable to anything Barbour and Barron can come up with.
If we need to conduct a coaching search, the best thing we have going for us is that Chambers has built a solid roster that has a good chance of winning next year.
Can we at least wait to see how this season plays out?
If we need to conduct a coaching search, the best thing we have going for us is that Chambers has built a solid roster that has a good chance of winning next year.
Can we at least wait to see how this season plays out?
Recruiting inroads in Philly and DC, with a couple of major Roman Catholic guys in the pipeline (Lundy, Greer*, and Duren).
Lifting the program’s floor, so that even in a season like this where everyone is disappointed, we’re still a top 50ish team. And doing it with a bottom 50 team in experience (usually at PSU, that’s a recipe for a train-wreck).
Putting a team on the floor that just had a guy leave early to go pro last year for the first time in a decade, and another two are possibilities this year.
If you can’t see any positives, you’re not looking. Doesn’t mean that’s enough to keep him, but ignoring them makes little sense.
Old guy to pull out of retirement - Bo Ryan
Mid-Major guy to bring back to the Northeast - Kyle Smith
Big assistant with loose connections to PSU - Dwayne Stephens
Guy to give another chance at the big stage - Anthony Grant
Young assistant - Gerry McNamara (assume Scheyer will wait for big-time offer)
Those are the types of guys I'd expect to be in contention.
I have been looking for positives and lately I don't see any. Has Penn State basketball improved since the DeChellis years? Absolutely. Am I satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not.
Recruiting. Yes we have better talent than we did with DeChellis, but we do not have the type of talent we need to compete for Big Ten championships and consistently make the NCAA tournament. This is year 8 of the Chambers era, not year 2 or 3. We are 0-8 in NCAA tournament berths.
Top 50. Sorry, but we are not a consistently top 50 team. Top 50 teams will always make the NIT and will frequently make the NCAA tournament. We were top 50 last year. We are not this year.
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As of this morning...
KenPom - 42
Sagarin Predictor - 57
ESPN BPI - 53
T Rank - 55
NCAA NET Rankings - 67
RPI - 46
I've got us in the 48-49 range.
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Funny that I actually provided some evidence, rather than saying “we’re irrelevant” with nothing to back it up?
We have only one bad lose that is Bradley.
DePaul is not a bad lose or really a good lose just lose
The other 3 loses are to teams that would currently be in the NCAA or ranked in the top 25.
Yes are we playing crisp basketball No, but stop making like we should be 11-0 right now this schedule was not an cupcake walk we lose to good teams in competitive games.
DePaul is not a bad lose or really a good lose just lose
The other 3 loses are to teams that would currently be in the NCAA or ranked in the top 25.
Yes are we playing crisp basketball No, but stop making like we should be 11-0 right now this schedule was not an cupcake walk we lose to good teams in competitive games.
You think Penn State is a better job than Xavier? That is funny...
What names have you posted? We should certainly be able to pay a good bit more than Xavier
We haven't ever demonstrated that we're willing to invest more in our basketball program than Xavier is - and that's really what matters. Penn State is a leagues more difficult place to win than Xavier.
Yes there are coaches who will take jobs because the money is better then there current one, but I am sorry no one is leaving Xavier for Penn State even if the money is the same or more you can win in the Big East easier then you can win in the B1G at Penn State.
I had a game on a couple of weeks ago and one of my young teen aged girls watched for 3 minutes and said, "all they do is pass around then shoot 3's"? I said, yep, that's their offense.
the OP asked for names and all I see is criticism when someone lists a name
Whoever would take the job because not many of substance would.
I'd write Nate Oates from Buffalo a blank check but some other school is about to that. When the university gets serious about the hoops team, I'll start caring. Though it is unreal how bad this team is with the talent they have on the floor, which is probably more talent than I've ever seen for PSU collectively. Though that doesnt make them a good TEAM.
Personally, dont think PSU will ever get much better than Chambers and no he isnt that good a coach. But thats on the program.
I'd write Nate Oates from Buffalo a blank check but some other school is about to that. When the university gets serious about the hoops team, I'll start caring. Though it is unreal how bad this team is with the talent they have on the floor, which is probably more talent than I've ever seen for PSU collectively. Though that doesnt make them a good TEAM.
Personally, dont think PSU will ever get much better than Chambers and no he isnt that good a coach. But thats on the program.
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