Wrestling: Penn State vs. Iowa Match Thread
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So what you are saying is by rule stalling is allowed? I thought you were the self appointed expert?
Have you seriously never gotten ahead of yourself as a fan? I have been very excited watching PSU get leads on OSU, only to be disappointed with the final results. He is a high school kid, that you are judging on one tweet. It says more about you than him.
Come on. Just admit you were wrong. You had Starocci by bonus and Bartlett over Woods. One was close to being right and the other wasn’t. Nobody is 100%
Last night, Iowa specifically, is why I've become a freestyle fan. Watching Iowa is like watching old UNC games playing the 4 corners offense. It's also why wrestlers go to Penn State. You're not scoring points on Brands or his teammates when all they do is clinch. It's systemic in their wrestling approach.
It seems you fail to understand you can only control you. When 1 compares themselves against many they can always find the excuse for their negatives behaviors but it still does not make it right. Do not use the scale to make your behavior justifiable.
LOL! Preaching to the choir. This board has threads dedicated to HR crazies. You might want to educate them as well. But thanks for the session
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As usual, Spencer heavy.
Without Spencer it is 21 - 36. Take Brooks out and its 14 - 14. 28 points scored in 8 matches. Not a whole lot of offense, but still a fun match.
No…but it was strange to see the best wrestler in world history get put to his back in the first 15 seconds by a backup who never had a D1 win.
if MV got a slightly better lock on that, TnT would have been carted off in an ambulance.
Say that again and my wife will smack the whiteclaw out of you! That is her favorite part about PSU wrestling, no lines for the ladies room.
I do understand your point, but if I'm a kid wrestling , I'm probably more concerned about winning a match than growing the sport. Iowa was all defense and stalling to kept close. Possibly hoping for a late score. Hard to score against quality competition when that is their gameplan. They had to take what was given to them.
I put this together a few years ago but thought it might be worth a re-print. I need to update it for Nick Lee - I’m confident he moved up the rankings when his entire career is considered - and do the math for the current squad. That said, mcpat is spot on - the current team, as good as it is, doesn’t score points like the wrestlers listed below.
I calculated the team points scored per match by a select group of past and current PSU wrestlers. For example, David Taylor had 53 pins (53 x 6), 42 TFs (42 x 5), 30 MDs (30 x 4), and 9 Ds (9 x 3). I then subtracted 6 points for his two losses by decision to Dake and 6 for his loss to Jenkins. That’s 663 total points, which I then divided by Taylor’s 137 career bouts. That comes to 4.84 points per match. For purposes of this exercise, I treated tournament wins and losses the same as dual wins and losses. That may be the wrong way to do it, but here’s the list:
Nolf 4.91 (60 pins, 27 TFs, 16 MDs, 14 Ds, 3 Ls)
Taylor 4.84 (53 pins, 42 TFs, 30 MDs, 9 Ds, 3 Ls)
Nickal 4.67 (59 pins, 12 TFs, 23 MDs, 26 Ds, 3 Ls)
Retherford 4.57 (53 pins, 22 TFs, 20 MDs, 31 Ds, 3 Ls)
Ruth 4.44 (46 pins, 25 TFs, 33 MDs, 32 Ds, 3 Ls)
Hall 4.11 (34 pins, 13 TFs, 15 MDs, 35 Ds, 5 Ls)
Joseph 3.60 (21 pins, 11 TFs, 16 MDs, 27 Ds, 8 Ls)
Cassar 3.48 (6 pins, 2 TFs, 20 MDs, 19 Ds, 3 Ls)
Lee 3.28 (14 pins, 14 TFs, 25 MDs, 16 Ds, 11 Ls)
Rasheed 3.27 (28 pins, 6 TFs, 16 MDs, 16 Ds, 15 Ls)
It’s entirely possible that a few of my calculations are slightly off. With that caveat and by this (admittedly incomplete) measure, Nolf camethisclose to averaging a TF over his 120 matches. (And that’s with a deduction of 6 points for his “loss” to Van Brill.) Amazing!
I just found out Assad was still counting lights In Wisconsin didn’t make the trip
And it takes a while to run from Madison to State College.
Also consider the points given for release type escapes, I believe Brooks did a few, I didn’t see many from Iowa. There was at least one where we were going to start down but Iowa chose a release. I am pretty sure in that case we would have earned an escape anyway. With 2 TD’s Iowa was not doing catch and release. Of course we did not do tons, but still more than Iowa.
First 2 periods? I recall one three-quarters shot in the third. So I am not sure Beau took a single committed shot the whole match. Beau hits his defensive to offensive moves with authority, but there needs to be as much authority used to initiate his own offensive attack
Lol. Or they could convert one womens into men’s for wrestling events…..since wrestling is the only event that has this problem. Wrestling…while there are women in attendance, is a sausage party if there ever was one.
Excuse me. I gave Max all the credit in the world in TWO separate posts. Don’t misrepresent what I said, please.
You can bet that Beau wanted, and was trying, to win…..but this was a school day. Time to understand what you need for March. Now he knows.
Not sure what is going on with Steen. I doubt the staff made a decision to just switch things around looking for something different the first match post Gary's first Big10 win.
Iowa fan boi TJ Sebolt joins in with the Amen chorus:
Sebolt is a strong proponent of the hand fighting for 6:30 strategy
Sebolt is a strong proponent of the hand fighting for 6:30 strategy
In the brief post match presser, Cael said Steen was banged up a bit after last week.
Really loved Vespa’s Carson Kuhn impersonation at the start. Kind of mind-boggling that Lee, whom HR has told us is the GOAT, couldn’t put a pinning combination together against the 3rd string PSU guy knowing every point was crucial.
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That was what I was just thinking. Multipurpose facilities should have restroom doors where you can change the labels on them easily just by sliding one label out and the other one in. A wrestling match tonight? 80% men's rooms, 20% women's rooms. Taylor Swift concert tonight? One men's room and all the rest women's rooms. Simple, cost-effective solution.
Everytime I attend an event in the BJC I am left with the impression that when they built the place they did not really believe events would be well attended.
Doesn’t matter to me, I’ll piss on the seats no matter which restroom I’m in..
Again, I gave Max a TON of credit in TWO separate posts. Don’t misrepresent what I said, please.
It’s true that Kennedy is quite limited offensively. I expect his tournament results will never be as good as HR anticipates. Similar to Marinelli. Tough kid but limited upside.
you are not required to attempt to turn on top
Start on the black cherry white claws, give your wife a couple shots of bourbon, have a great afternoon and restart your posting time tomorrow.
Arnold, shares the same view as a whole string of stary eyed adolescents who's delusions of grandeur come crashing down after a couple of years in the Hawkeye program. He will question in frustration how that Barr kid passed him by in two short years. Arnold will be just one more kid that wonders what if... he had committed elsewhere.
I think in the future when we have a big dual we should be posting our drink counts as we post…
that way we know right away whether a call out is even worth it..
‘an example…
McPat
i wish they’d give Alex mozerelli more air time he’s sort of hot…
14 white claws in…
that way we know right away whether a call out is even worth it..
‘an example…
McPat
i wish they’d give Alex mozerelli more air time he’s sort of hot…
14 white claws in…
