Suriano turned out to be a “wrong type” and while we are still, IMO,waiting for a high AA125 replacement, i wouldnt say his being here, or leaving for that matter brought down a dynasty.
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Suriano turned out to be a “wrong type” and while we are still, IMO,waiting for a high AA125 replacement, i wouldnt say his being here, or leaving for that matter brought down a dynasty.
That would make more sense. The fact that he was "escorted out of practice" seemed very harsh otherwise.
Yeah, it could make sense. Those guys wrestle at 170lb. He wrestles 160 lb now, right? Maybe he projects to be a 165 lb wrestler in college?
Perhaps he thinks he can beat out the Lee brothers. It's not like the Lee brothers were ranked higher than him in high school, and he is worried about his chances to beat them out.
Hard to know. Tom Osborne permanently kicked Lawrence Phillips off the team, only to let him play in the bowl game. I feel like the dictionary should have the word “convenience” in the definitions.
I think the Fix situation is more interesting in that IF it is true and he does get suspended by WADA he would not be able to wrestle in college either. He could potentially miss the next season or two depending on the WADA suspension. But, again there is no information whatsoever if any of this is actually true. Mineo posted another tweet yesterday that Fix is being replaced for the Pan Am Olympic qualifier with Gilman. USA Wrestling is silent of course. Strangely, on an episode of FRL two weeks ago they mentioned a rumor that Gilman might be replacing Fix.
that is all depending on the truth of the situation. I believe Flo said the testing he failed was not a UWW test and therefore it would not trigger any International suspension, It is all on ASU. We really do not know the truth of the situation.
Another thing to think about is that even if it were a UWW test, his suspension hearing likely wouldn't be for months. JO failed a UWW test late April 2017 and his hearing wasn't until January 2018.
Is it possible that they would have a quicker timetable knowing that it is an olympic year and team qualifiers will be happening? I am just asking, I have zero knowledge about international bodies.
Edit, they just suspended some wrestlers that I believe had qualified spots for countries, France, Syria and Kosovo, though I believe all three wrestlers had Russian sounding names, lol. What was that timetable?
I have no idea but I'm not sure the likelyhood of the hearing happening within the next 3 weeks before NCAAs.
Yes, they stated that UWW did not administer the test at the Mateo Pellicone event, the Flo guys also said they did not know who administered the test. They said it could be WADA, USADA or ASU. If it were WADA or USADA it would trigger an international suspension. Also, the hearing for JO was later but he was still suspended from the time of the result through the hearing, right?
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Actually shorter timetable, he needs to weigh in and step on the mat for his conference tournament to even qualify for NCAA’s.
Well, he also hid a gun allegedly used in a felony shooting by his player from investigators....he really liked to win.
It's probably more severe than a permanent suspension. Those do not tend to last very long. The indefinite kind will likely last at least until fact-finding, appeals, and any applicable punishments run their course.
And then there is the Chronosynclastic Infundibulum way out of it.
"Indefinite" is one of those non-committal terms that sounds more severe than it is, though it often ends severely.
But it's not as confusing as the legal term "continuance," which actually means about the same thing, i.e., an open-ended postponement that might cease upon some future as-yet unidentified event, at which point the case recommences.
Better than incontinuance. Nobody wants to wear diapers.
A few years ago, Coach K at Duke indefinitely suspended one of his players, it lasted one game.
All indefinite means is that time is needed to assess the situation and determine the correct punishment. With the possibly of lawyers being involved, nothing is definite.
Sometimes the certainty of knowing, no matter the outcome, is better than the uncertainty of not knowing. This is probably one of those cases for Zahid.
He could probably address it without really addressing it. Like an Instagram post saying “getting ready for Pan Ams” or something.
So either he/OSU doesn’t really care about the rumors swirling, or there’s some truth to it. But not sure which. For the record I think Mineo was also claiming they’re trying to appeal it. So for argument’s sake let’s say he’s telling the truth and say there’s a successful appeal, is that something the public would eventually know about?
Montell Marion is still permanently suspended -- he even made the NCAA Finals two years into his permanent suspension.
https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2010/5/5/Marion_Permanently_Suspended.aspx
Montell Marion. That was the name I was trying to remember when the subject of permanent/indefinite suspension came up.
Intended to pause the wrestler's action until enough facts are known to make a call on the consequences, HOWEVER LONG THAT IS. It means to me that there was enough info already available to take this step. Now it's get through the smoke to see if there's a bad fire.
Urgent in this case, as the PAC-12 tourney is 13 days away.
If Gilman takes Fix's place on the team and Fix gives up the chance to earn the #1 seed in that bracket, I think we can read between the lines. I always wondered about his weight cut and how he made it, because he looks huge for that weight. Someone on the Hawkeye forum just posted that Fix is 7 months older than Lee and if he does come back next year Fix will be a Red Shirt Sophomore and Lee will be in his Senior year. Fix must have been an old HS senior..... Working the system in all ways it might seem....
FT transferred to Rutgers?Knew you'd be the first. Though I was giving FT a puncher's chance.
You do not want to go down this road on this page. We don't take kindly to speculation regarding athletes without valid sources. Even then, there's no room for disparaging remarks.
Was that a drug-related suspension? Heard he got caught tripping.
Fix took a regular redshirt and an Olympic redshirt that he earned. Lots of wrestlers have gone this route, I don't see this as "working the system" at all.
Spencer had the opportunity for both redshirts and he decided against it, which obviously is fine. People in the same graduating class are often 7 months apart.
And he was as old as possible in High School is all I'm saying. So many guys are grey shirting in Jr. High to graduate at 19. I just remember guys graduating at 17 early and 18 was normal. I think that's changing now to gain every possible advantage. Nothing illegal, but just working the system to be as old as one can be at each level.
Am I the only one that wants to party with this guy and his hot girlfriend's friends? I know a bunch of yall are thinking it.
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