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ASU, SMU or INDIANA?

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KnightWhoSaysNit said:
No, Massey cannot be debated in the same way as the committee approach. One is set in stone before the competition begins. The rules don't change during the game. The other presents not only inherent human biases (favoritism), but also blatant corruption DURING THE COMPETITION (season). Why can't you understand this? What is it with you?

We would all like your solution. That is NFL-like. But this is college -- limited complex, disparate data that, due to the inability to form a true league, some sort of systemic approach to identifying a champion must be in place. (Or we can agree that there can be no "champion.")

Consider the World Golf Rankings -- a system that blends disparate tours and leagues from all over the world. A committee might have made up the rules to rank the players, but it doesn't sit down each year and by discussion decide who is #1, #2, #3, and so on. It decides the system and then lets the system take its course. The World Golf Rankings then play a role in some tournaments. Same with Fed Ex Cup points. A committee doesn't decide who gets into the golf post season. A committee decided beforehand what the system would be. They don't decide who deserves a playoff spot each year. The system decides it.

So it must be for a problem like College Football, if we truly want to be fair and honest about it.
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It can and would be debated. People would complain about the flaws with it that they believe exist and then talk about better ways to do it. The rules aren't changing now. It's their opinion.

Many would hate my solution but that's where we're headed.

This is done with almost all college sports. You get that right?
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Should we run mainly 2 TE sets/12 Personnel going forward?

indynittany
tboyer said:
Absolutely they could line up Dinkins, who has great hands, as a wideout. And why not send him to split the safeties, like they did with Theo Johnson last year? Dinkins' weakness may be blocking but the guy catches everything near him. He's another player who has been strangely overlooked by Coach K and Allar. How many times have we seen a play forced to Warren, who is well covered, when Dinkins is either wide open or being covered by a corner who he can outreach by a foot and a half?

In theory you should see a college offense become more diverse as the season goes along. But it seems like PSU has been thinning out the playbook a lot. They could have used more variety against Minnesota IMO
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I like Dinkins well enough, but the kid that needs to see the field more is Reynolds.
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What’s to stop Larry Ellison from giving Michigan $1 Billion+ in Nil and ruining College Football?

indynittany
LandoComando said:
I get what you're saying but no one at Penn State is taking that PR hit. We'd get eaten alive for that decision. Paying someone off IMO isn't "caring" it's protecting yourself.
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For the record, I believe this NIL business is being handled poorly.

To your point though, if the carrot of enough money to buy the players we want gives PSU the courage to stand for the truth, rather than accept the narrative, I say go for it!
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A Rutgers fan can dream

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johnstownsteel said:
Ok was only focused on the guy already at PSU. I'll throw Nate Desmond in as the other one of the recruits he's guessing ..
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I got the impression that Crackers was referring to recruits that have since enrolled at PSU, but who knows? But in that case Sealey could be one. That actually isn't the craziest thing in the world if Sealey gets squeezed at PSU, as the 165 spot at RU has been a black hole for years. No clue who the second one might be.

Of course, take all this with a couple large boulders of rock salt.
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North Carolina just fired Mack Brown

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Marylovesthelions said:
these greedy bastards never retire. He is on his 70s. No coach ever did less with more that this CLOWN.
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I don’t know him personally but I never got a Barry Switzer vibe from Mack Brown. He’s a very successful coach and from my view which, admittedly is not up close and personal, he seems to have steered clear of controversy. And it’s not like he’s hung around until he died in the Senate or anything.
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Bo Bassett thread

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I don’t see him leaving PA. He seems to want to be a world & Olympic champion. PSU/NLWC is where that’s at. Plus Cael and the boys will ramp up the recruiting. They let Spencer leave and won’t let Bo.
However I see DT going all in to get him with a big pay day. Taylor knows this could help him land future recruits and really make some noise. Not sure anyone would want to move to Oklahoma.

Tan Tom already lost Blaze to the good guys, I see him rallying the Donors in Columbus, including Rudis. Heck PA Power loves this kid, then Flo wrestling uses his name, image and likeness, and now Rudis is all over him. I couldn’t imagine a junior in HS being on Rudis commercials.

Then heard from someone who knows his cousins, Iowa is going all in with a life changing offer. Brands contact is up in 2028. He knows he needs to make a splash or could be gone.

I don’t think we need Bo, but could you imagine Luke, Blaze, Bo and Duke. Ok state has no chance
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North Carolina just fired Mack Brown

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Marylovesthelions said:
these greedy bastards never retire. He is on his 70s. No coach ever did less with more that this CLOWN.
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That’s real Christian of you to yell that. He won a National Championship and is in the College Football Hall of Fame. Maybe he should be like you and spend his late years posting nonsense on a message board. Go back to the test board
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ASU, SMU or INDIANA?

KnightWhoSaysNit
LandoComando said:
Their hate would have merit because using Massey can be debated the same as the committee's decision can be debated. I like the Massey ratings for the most part but I'm in the minority.

There's many other things to debate if it was fixed. I want a 48 team league with 4 divisions of 12 and the top 4 from each to make the playoff. 11 games all divisional. Won't happen but that's my ideal scenario.
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No, Massey cannot be debated in the same way as the committee approach. One is set in stone before the competition begins. The rules don't change during the game. The other presents not only inherent human biases (favoritism), but also blatant corruption DURING THE COMPETITION (season). Why can't you understand this? What is it with you?

We would all like your solution. That is NFL-like. But this is college -- limited complex, disparate data that, due to the inability to form a true league, some sort of systemic approach to identifying a champion must be in place. (Or we can agree that there can be no "champion.")

Consider the World Golf Rankings -- a system that blends disparate tours and leagues from all over the world. A committee might have made up the rules to rank the players, but it doesn't sit down each year and by discussion decide who is #1, #2, #3, and so on. It decides the system and then lets the system take its course. The World Golf Rankings then play a role in some tournaments. Same with Fed Ex Cup points. A committee doesn't decide who gets into the golf post season. A committee decided beforehand what the system would be. They don't decide who deserves a playoff spot each year. The system decides it.

So it must be for a problem like College Football, if we truly want to be fair and honest about it.
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A Rutgers fan can dream

johnstownsteel
BruceK-PSU83 said:
FWIW, which may not be much:

When presented with the fact that SVN and Kasak both finished 3rd at NCAAs, Crackers backed off the statement about the guy in question being more accomplished in college than SVN. He also stated flatly that the guy in question is not Haines. So it's become fairly clear he is referring to Kasak.

Crackers also stated that the other two PSU wrestlers were both "blue chip recruits".

Of course, these tidbits were buried in beaucoup insults (some kind of funny) to anyone who questioned his credibility.
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Ok was only focused on the guy already at PSU. I'll throw Nate Desmond in as the other one of the recruits he's guessing ..
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Bo Bassett thread

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johnstownsteel said:
I have a gut feeling Rudis could play a part in his decision and a huge NIL deal for him. Rudis seems all in on branding the kid. Don't they have some sort of partnership with Ohio State (Iowa as well) ? And I think their offices are just down the road from Columbus. And an even crazier idea in my head .. Bo having his sites set on one day leading his college as a coach. Where do you all think that would be easier to accomplish? PSU or Ohio State? The Bassett family seem like "long game" thinkers to me... lol
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From our friend the internet:

Rudis headquarters is located in Marysville, Ohio, which is about 27 miles northwest of Columbus.
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A Rutgers fan can dream

Sportfan2017
RUCrackers said:
You Penn State dill wads really like my pickle reference? Well get ready because one of the top dudes you named is coming to RU! Plus 2 other blue chippers are done with Slingblade. Acting classes must be a huge major at Ped State, because the acting job this wrestler is doing, pretending he is happy, is Oscar worthy.Have a nice Turkey Day all you Sanduskys.
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Such a sweet guy. I'm sure he is a loving non-custodial father and ex-husband. I wish him nothing but lollipops and rainbows...............and a highly qualified psychiatrist. RUcrackers has no question mark at the end of his handle because there is no doubt. None
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A Rutgers fan can dream

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johnstownsteel said:
He said he's a more accomplished college wrestler than Van Ness. I mean I could see Henckel but it wouldn't make creedo correct..
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FWIW, which may not be much:

When presented with the fact that SVN and Kasak both finished 3rd at NCAAs, Crackers backed off the statement about the guy in question being more accomplished in college than SVN. He also stated flatly that the guy in question is not Haines. So it's become increasingly clear he is referring to Kasak.

Crackers also stated that the other two PSU wrestlers were both "blue chip recruits".

Of course, these tidbits were buried in beaucoup insults (some kind of funny) to anyone who questioned his credibility.
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Iowa vs PSU 2025

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PD4thespawn said:
Well, anyone have a Thanksgiving anecdote?
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OK: Our family Thanksgiving get-togethers are usually pretty strange......not in a good way. This year was different and amazing. My sister-in-laws' daughter ask my nephew if he would be her babies' sperm donor. Awwww. He replied that that was a huge decision......and ask "How old is your baby?" Never made it to dessert
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