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rmg78 said:

He is not easy to respect. Someone respectful does not take unwarranted shots at wrestlers and programs because they are on the losing end. From criticizing the Mark Hall win over Jordan to saying that PSU and Iowa were doing "unethical" things regarding the transfer portal, etc.

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If grey did not exist & the world were black & white, you'd be correct.

And we can throw The White Wizard Mark Manning in with Tom Ryan's poor verbal behavior & piss-poor & ill-advised accusations regarding other teams & coaches. But even that, I agree with Nerf above that such word slingin is a flaw many coaches exhibit, from some misguided sense that they're 'protecting' or 'fighting' for 'their guys.'

But also, the assertion that his guys win or lose with class is tough to disagree with across the board. The Jordan brothers are something like 2-12 or more against PSU and they almost always took the L's with grace. Kollin Moore, Ethan Smith, Kaleb Romero, Myles Martin (excepting papa Martin) the same. Joey McKenna & Luke Pletcher took their Ws with grace. Man, you could build a long list of Buckeye wrestlers who are indeed easy to respect. I'm fine with granting some or any of that class & respect back to Ryan's guidance & leadership.

LandoComando said:

As you should

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You are starting to grow on me - kind of like a boil.

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I would have more sympathy for Temple but living in SEPA and being around their fans they are real a-holes when it comes to PSU as you will find out when we play them in Philly in a few years - worse and why Philly Sports radio rips on PSU when they infrequently even mention PSU is because a lot of the radio tools went to Temple - as bad as all the ‘Cuse alums in Bristol.

dunc73 said:

Trevor Matich also followed the ESPN narrative the other night during halftime of a MAC game - said the committee's biggest mistake was Penn State at #4 since they have no signature win. He also said that Ohio State's win over Penn State was not really as close as the score would indicate...

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ESPNs financial stake in the SEC is evident in their recent commentary.

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mgkpsu said:

Are people going to run through these scenarios every week?

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ad nauseam I fear.

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I believe ultimately they end up with the ACC teams plus UConn and UMass when the ACC gets raided down the road, so with Duke, Wake, probably Boston College and Louisville, maybe even 2-3 others like NC State, one of the Virginia schools, etc. Maybe an East Carolina type. But some of those schools may go B12.

vhsalum said:

Gable coming back knocks you guys down a peg, thank god. and hopefully you'll go with Facundo at 157. Davis could pull a Davis again. Bartlett is taking 3rd. I'll cross my fingers that Lilledahl sucks on the mat.

I'm not saying it's certain. But there's a path to PSU taking second.

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LOL..Are you Ironbird in disguise?

Obliviax said:

yep...make the schedules and play the games. I don't feel like there is any good argument why a two-loss team should be in the playoff regardless of their schedules. And I believe that for PSU too. In fact, have stated it several times. If PSU loses one of their next two games, I've got no problem with us being left out. Same is true of tOSU. If they lose to either UM or Indy, I've got no problem with time sitting out the playoff.

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In a 12 team playoff you must have 2 loss teams. This logic doesn't make sense. 11-2 Ohio State with 2 losses to #1 Oregon including by 1 on the should and will be the 5 seed