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So where does the 2025 class go from here.....?

On the one hand it seems like Franklin has taken some players that aren't rated very high by the "experts".

On the other hand it seems like a great sign when Franklin gets commits early like he has, from the players he has identified as takes early in the process. So it looks like a nice start to the class

But unless a good many of the current commits go to camps and get significant bumps up in ratings there's no way this class can finish top 10 in ratings by the "experts". Franklin would have to finish off the class off with 12-13 mid 4-star to high 4-star players to end up with a top 5 to top 8 class, so it's likely that some here will cry about the class no matter how the rest of the class fills in. The 12 current commits seem like a great start, but one that will draw some criticism from the cryers.

What about filling position priorities. The strength of the class seems to be the 3 LB's so far, a position where PSU already has nice young talent from the 2024 class and where the new DC may not play a 3rd LB too much. And the 3 OL recruits including O'Hara also seem to be a strength. Two RB commits but the staff reportedly would bring in a 3rd if he was too good to pass up. Not even a start on a DL class.

What's everyone think?

So it would seem that going forward the priorities are 3-5 DL with a priority on a couple top pass rushers as a good portion of the 2024 DL class seems lke it will end up at DT. 2-4 additional DB's as well on defense.

On offense I like that Hagans got a WR with size and good speed to start the class, and it would seem that PSU will take at least 2 more WR's, and possibly 3 more, hopefully with a couple more with some size. 2 or 3 more olinemen as well, hopefully with an OT that is closer to playing than what the couple OT recruits in the class seem to be. 1 or more likely 2 TE's given that there was only 1 in the 2024 class an there may be attrition from the roster after things shake out going into the next season. And the staff wants another QB, hopefully the PA kid Zollers.

Most NCAA Wrestling Championships By Coach

Was thinking about where Cael stacks up at this point. I feel like we are pretty close to him taking over the #1 spot.

Coaches With The Most Titles​

  1. Dan Gable, Iowa - 15
  2. Ed Gallagher, Oklahoma State - 11
  3. Cael Sanderson, Penn State - 10
  4. Art Griffith, Oklahoma State - 8
  5. Myron Roderick, Oklahoma State - 7
  6. Harold Nichols, Iowa State - 6
  7. John Smith, Oklahoma State - 5
  8. Tom Brands, Iowa - 4
  9. Jim Zalesky, Iowa/J Robinson, Minnesota/Port Robertson, Oklahoma - 3
  10. Thomas Evans, Oklahoma/Gary Kurdelmeier, Iowa/Joe Seay, Oklahoma State - 2

Warren Buffet's homage to Charlie Munger with 99 rules to live by

I thought this was pretty good for a Monday....


1. The way to live a good life is to write your obituary and live it backwards.

2. Go to sleep each night a little less stupid than you were when you woke up.

3. Over-competitiveness corrupts even the best of people.

4. Incentives drive behaviour more than anything.

5. Don't have an opinion unless you can state the arguments against your position better than the people in opposition.

6. The best way to get what you want is do deserve what you want.

7. Invert. Always. Think about the biggest screw-up is. And work like hell to avoid it.

8. Underspend your income.

9. Learn the big ideas in all the disciplines. Pay no heed to sectoral boundaries. And cross-apply like crazy.

10. Great investing requires a lot of delayed gratification

11. It's not supposed to be easy

12. The big money is not in the buying and selling... but in the waiting.

13. "I think I'm rational, and that's a moral imperative to me. I don't want to be anything else."

14. Knowing what you don’t know is more useful than being brilliant.

15. Take a simple idea seriously.

16. If you want to be a good partner, be a good partner.

17. A lot of success in life and business comes from knowing what you want to avoid: early death, a bad marriage

18. Never, ever, think about something else when you should be thinking about the power of incentives.

19. Don't be the patsy.

20. Being prepared will improve your life.

21. The best thing a human being can do is to help another human being know more.

22. There's no genius in knowing what to do. The genius is doing it.

23. To the man with only a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

24. I try to get rid of people who always confidently answer questions about which they don't have any real knowledge.

25. I believe in the discipline of mastering the best that other people have ever figured out.

26. The number one way to get ahead is to avoid doing dumb things.

27. I don't have any wonderful insights that other people don't have. I just happen to avoid certain gross follies.

28. You don't have to be smarter than the rest; you have to be more disciplined than the rest.

29. All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I'll never go there.

30. The first rule of compounding: Never interrupt it unnecessarily.

31. Do the right thing.

32. It is remarkable how much long-term advantage people like us have gotten by trying to be consistently not stupid.

33. No wise pilot fails to use his checklist.

34. Assume life will be really tough, and then ask if you can handle it. If the answer is yes, you've won.

35. Never feel sorry for yourself.

36. Sometimes it booms and sometimes it busts. Pay no heed. Go about your business.

37. Bad incentives will destroy.

38. Take the high road. It's far less crowded.

39. I don't think much of a man who doesn't know more today than he did yesterday.

40. It's not necessary to do extraordinary things to get extraordinary results.

41. Patience is the key to success not speed. Time is a friend of the wonderful company, the enemy of the mediocre.

42. If you want to improve your odds of reaching big goals, read 500 pages daily.

43. Our approach has always been to look for a no-brainer decision.

44. You must learn how to handle mistakes and new information that changes the odds.

45. We're trying to find the easy job, because we're not smart enough to do the hard job.

46. Don't think short term

47. The best way to get a good spouse is to deserve a good spouse.

48. Avoiding stupidity is easier than seeking brilliance.

49. It's amazing how much trouble you can avoid if you're trying to do the right thing.

50. If you want ants to come, you put sugar on the floor.51. Our game is to recognize a big idea when it comes along when one doesn't come along very often.

52. Simplicity has a way of improving performance by enabling us to better understand what we are doing.

53. In my whole life, I have known no wise people who didn't read all the time - none, zero

54. When you mix raisins and turds, you've still got turds

55. I did not succeed in life by intelligence. I succeeded because I have a long attention span

56. A great business at a fair price is superior to a fair business at a great price

57. Whenever you think something or some person is ruining your life, it's you. A victimization mentality is so debilitating

58. If you want to understand science, you have to understand math. The good thing about business is that you don't have to know any higher math

59. We look for a horse with one chance in two of winning and which pays you three to one

60. Recognize reality even when you don't like it. Especially when you don't like it

61. A business model that relies on trickery is doomed to fail

62. Those of us who have been very fortunate have a duty to give back

63. Remember that reputation and integrity are your most valuable assets, and can be lost in a heartbeat

64. There's no way that you can live an adequate life without making many mistakes65. Is there such thing as a cheerful pessimist? That's what I am

66. I have a black belt in chutzpah. I was born with it

67. It never ceases to amaze me to see how much territory can be grasped if one merely masters and consistently uses all the obvious and easily learned principles

68. The biggest mistake is in not learning from the past

69. It's not the bad ideas that do you in, but the good ones

70. Acknowledging what you don't know is the dawning of wisdom

71. Our job is to find a few intelligent things to do, not to keep up with every damn thing in the world

72. If you don't allow for self-serving bias in the conduct of others, you are, again, a fool

73. The big money is not in the buying and selling, but in the waiting

74. Everybody engaged in complex work needs colleagues

75. I don’t have a single achievement I’m all that proud of

76. We all are learning, modifying, or destroying ideas all the time

77. What do you want to avoid? Such an easy answer: sloth and unreliability

78. Another thing that does one in, of course, is the self-serving bias

79. There’s only one way to the top: hard work

80. Do what you like and are good three rules for a career: Don’t sell anything you wouldn’t buy yourself; Don’t work for anyone you don’t respect and admire; Work only with people you enjoy

81. Almost all good businesses engage in 'pain today, gain tomorrow' activities

82. It takes character to sit with all that cash and to do nothing

83. Investing is where you find a few great companies and then sit on your ass

84. People who cannot be alone with their own thoughts for a long time are terrible candidates to become successful investors

85. We recognized early on that smart people do very dumb things, and we wanted to know why

86. A lot of people with high IQs are terrible investors because they’ve got terrible temperaments

87. Someone will always be getting richer faster than you. This is not a tragedy

88. The desire to get rich fast is pretty dangerous89. Patience is not just a virtue; it’s a strategy

90. Success comes from making rational decisions based on facts, not emotions

91. I met the towering intellectuals in books, not in the classroom91. Neither Warren nor I are smart enough to make decisions with no time to think

92. You’d be amazed at how much Warren reads – and at how much I read

93. We have three baskets for investing: yes, no, and too tough to understand

94. If something is too hard, we move on to something else95. You must force yourself to consider opposing arguments

96. There’s a tendency to think that our present politicians are much worse than any we had in the past

97. There isn’t a single formula. You need to know a lot about business and human nature

98. Choose clients as you would friends

99. The really big opportunities in life will be very few. So when you find a lollapalooza, and you can see it, don’t hang back like a timid rabbit. Step boldly and grab it. And don’t do it small.

Would you take Kiffin over Franklin?

Even though it would mean the complete obliteration of everything “penn state” that remains? Would you be ok with our players dunking basketballs on the sideline if meant better playcalling? With our assistants creating fake twitter/x accounts to troll our opponents?

Now hear me out. I don’t mean to prop up Franklin. Those are just the actual things that they do at Ole Miss. So would you take Kiffin over Franklin? Would you be bothered by the things Kiffin does or you wouldn’t be? I’m just curious where everyone stands

***Ask The Staff -- Wednesday Edition***

Feel free to ask any questions for Happy Valley Insider’s staff members post your questions about the team, recruiting, or anything else in this thread below. If we don't know the answer, we'll work our hardest to get the best answer possible. Please refrain from commenting on other people's questions and answers, however, feel free to start a new thread to discuss any of our questions.

We will check in on the thread all day long to answer whatever questions you have!

Match Thread Nebraska dual - Sun, Feb 18

With Iowa in the rearview window still trying to play catch-up, and F Rutgres, I'm already looking ahead to the Nebraska dual next Sunday (and not just because it's the one match I get to see live in person this year).

Nebraska looked pretty good last night, and I think they could possibly be our toughest dual of the season (or not).

I see PSU winning at least 8 (maybe not 149 & 184). 125 and 141 should be fun.

Projected lineups:
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Interesting Journey Brown Tidbit

I work in the Big House and I'm not talking Michigan's Big House. I run the gym and a guy that is in my weightlifting class is married to Journey Browns sister. The brother-in-law told me Journey is looking to get into the NFL. Supposedly he was cleared by his own personal Doctor of the heart issue, but it's the PSU Doctor that needs to clear him for him to be eligible to try out for the NFL or sign on as a free agent. It seems like the PSU Doc is not signing off, so the brother-in-law said they may look to take legal action against the PSU Doctor for not clearing him.

***DISCLAIMER*** Also take this message with a grain of salt. You know how it goes when people get all pissed and say, "I'm going to sue you!" I doubt it actually happens but this was coming from a direct family member of Journey's so figured I'd pass along.

Football FEBRUARY ROSTER UPDATE - WEIGHT CHANGES

Will have a more reader friendly version soon but here's all the changes.

FULL NAMEPOS.20232024DIFFERENCE
Kolin DinkinsCB1941973
Antoine Belgrave-ShorterCB17519419
Elliot Washington IICB1921931
A.J. HarrisCB190188-2
Jalen KimberCB1851850
Cam MillerCB1831830
Zion TracyCB1801833
Jon MitchellCB1751827
Audavion CollinsCB1721797
Smith VilbertDE2782846
Dani Dennis-SuttonDE2612709
Jaylen HarveyDE24326623
Amin VanoverDE268262-6
Zuriah FisherDE2542628
Joseph MupoyiDE24625812
Jameial LyonsDE2462526
Abdul CarterDE2492501
Bobby MearsDE22724821
Mason RobinsonDE243238-5
Joey PalkoDE2312387
Jordan MayerDE235228-7
Kaleb ArtisDT319317-2
Alonzo Ford Jr.DT29830810
Jordan van den BergDT310307-3
Dvon ElliesDT2983024
Coziah IzzardDT2953027
Xavier GilliamDT25029444
Zane DurantDT2852883
Sam SiafaDT2772847
Ty BlandingDT2742828
Davon Townley Jr.DT2772814
Hakeem BeamonDT290280-10
De'Andre CookDT25826911
Liam AndrewsDT270266-4
T.A. CunninghamDT268252-16
Sander SahaydakK1771836
Chase MeyerK195180-15
Ryan BarkerK/P209203-6
Kobe KingLB2422508
Tyler ElsdonLB229227-2
Kaveion KeysLB2252261
Ta’Mere RobinsonLB2222264
Kari JacksonLB2202266
Tony RojasLB2252250
Ben ChizmarLB233224-9
Beckham DeeLB2202244
Winston YatesLB20522318
Keon WylieLB2182202
Dominic DeLucaLB2182202
Jackson PrytsLB2042062
Tyrece MillsLB1982046
Andrew DufaultLS250246-4
Will PattonLS224221-3
Blaise Sokach-MinnickLS2142151
Olaivavega IoaneOL348342-6
Golden Israel-AchumbaOL3323320
Sal WormleyOL3243306
Anthony DonkohOL3233285
JB NelsonOL334327-7
Chimdy OnohOL30032323
Cooper CousinsOL29031929
Jim FitzgeraldOL318311-7
Nick DawkinsOL315306-9
Drew SheltonOL3063060
Liam PowersOL29230614
Nolan RucciOL317305-12
Alex BirchmeierOL3043051
J’ven WilliamsOL3033041
Addison PennOL304303-1
Garrett SextonOL26529530
Dominic RulliOL2872947
Matt DetischOL300285-15
Henry BoehmeOL27328310
Ian HarvieOL271256-15
Eagan BoyerOL260251-9
Gabriel NwosuP274272-2
Riley ThompsonP20921910
Mitchell GrohP1901911
Drew AllarQB242241-1
Beau PribulaQB2032052
Jaxon SmolikQB1972058
Ethan GrunkemeyerQB19020212
Jack LambertQB2012010
Karson KiesewetterQB1871914
Nicholas SingletonRB2222264
Kaytron AllenRB2222253
Tyler HolzworthRB2182213
Amiel DavisRB2082146
Cam WallaceRB1911998
Quinton Martin Jr.RB205194-11
London MontgomeryRB1851861
David Kency Jr.RB175173-2
DaKaari NelsonS2202233
Jaylen ReedS2052105
Vaboue ToureS18520924
Kevin Winston Jr.S2032063
Patrick WilliamsS1981980
Zakee WheatleyS198196-2
King MackS188187-1
Lamont Payne Jr.S188185-3
Jashaun GreenS173171-2
Tyler DuzanskySN2152172
Jerry CrossTE2542606
Tyler WarrenTE2572592
Andrew RappleyeaTE2432496
Khalil DinkinsTE2452461
Finn FurmanekTE21823820
Joey SchlafferTE2262337
Luke ReynoldsTE21522813
Jake SpencerWR2142140
Julian FlemingWR210209-1
Malik McClainWR2062071
Feyisayo OluleyeWR2042073
Malick MeigaWR2032052
Liam CliffordWR2012032
Tyler JohnsonWR18319714
Harrison Wallace IIIWR1941962
KeAndre Lambert-SmithWR1851949
Jason EstrellaWR1861937
Logan CunninghamWR201188-13
Mehki FlowersWR190187-3
Omari EvansWR189185-4
Anthony IveyWR180178-2
Kaden SaundersWR1751761
Josiah BrownWR1751750
Ethan BlackWR1651716
Carmelo TaylorWR169161-8
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