I believe they are saying Carr to PSU next year which screws Haines and Facundo.
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It's okay for Iowa fans to complain about Aiello/Dean because they all were condemning how badly Reenan, an underdog ACC wrestler, got screwed against Warner last year. Exact same energy, they're all consistent and not hypocrites at all.
His volume of attacks is up when facing a lesser caliber of opponent.
He's not an NC-level guy, but he's pretty darn good. If he's going to beat top-15 guys, he's got to pick his spots. Sometimes that doesn't go your way.
He didn't wrestle badly against Wilits. Wilits did what he did well, you can debate whether Wilits tactics should not be penalized, but he was allowed to do the same thing against Carr and you saw what happened.
I don't think Brady's any different than he was earlier in the tourney, at the B1G tourney, earlier this season, or earlier in his career. This tourney can be rough. Sometimes you need a few 50/50s to go your way.
HR already queuing the post season transfer rumor mill? They must be really bored. 🤣
#1 Penn State 27
#2 Arizona State 22
#3 Michigan 21
#4 Iowa 20
125:
PSU: #16 Hildebrandt vs #15 Teske (UNI)
ASU: #4 Courtney, ASU vs #5 Cardinale, WVU (QF)
UM: #1 Suriano, MICH vs #24 Latona, VT (QF)
133:
PSU: #1 RBY vs #25 Courtney, UVA (QF)
ASU: #3 McGee, ASU vs #6 Ragusin, MICH (QF)
141:
PSU: #1 Lee vs #8 Willits, ORST (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #24 Micic, MICH vs #26 Tal Shahar, NW
149:
PSU: #13 Bartlett vs #19 Yahya Thomas, NW
ASU: #5 Parco, ASU vs #4 Sasso, OSU (QF)
UM: N/A
157:
PSU: #16 Berge vs #15 Johnny Lovett, CMU
ASU: #3 Teemer, ASU vs #6 Franek, NDSU (QF)
UM: #8 Lewan, MICH vs #17 Willits, ORST (QF)
165:
PSU: N/A
ASU: #18 Anthony Valencia, ASU vs (11) Izzak Olejnik, NIU
UM: #6 Amine, MICH vs #3 Marinelli, IOWA (QF)
174:
PSU #1 CStar vs #9 Labriola, NEB (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #3 Massa, MICH vs #6 Plott, OKST (QF)
184:
PSU: #2 Brooks vs #7 Romero, OHST (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #1 Amine, MICH vs #9 Braunagel, ILL (QF)
197:
PSU: #1 Dean vs #8 Deprez, BING (QF)
ASU: #16 Kordell Norfleet, ASU vs #18 Luke Stout, PRIN
UM: #4 Brucki vs #19 Jacob Cardenas, COR
285:
PSU: #4 Kerkvliet vs #12 Lance, NEB (QF)
ASU: #2 Schultz, ASU vs #7 Parris, MICH (QF)
Winners of QF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
PSU is favored in all 6 QF matches.
ASU is favored in 4 QF matches.
Michigan is favored in 4 QF matches.
Iowa is favored in 2 QF matches by seeding.
#2 Arizona State 22
#3 Michigan 21
#4 Iowa 20
125:
PSU: #16 Hildebrandt vs #15 Teske (UNI)
ASU: #4 Courtney, ASU vs #5 Cardinale, WVU (QF)
UM: #1 Suriano, MICH vs #24 Latona, VT (QF)
133:
PSU: #1 RBY vs #25 Courtney, UVA (QF)
ASU: #3 McGee, ASU vs #6 Ragusin, MICH (QF)
141:
PSU: #1 Lee vs #8 Willits, ORST (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #24 Micic, MICH vs #26 Tal Shahar, NW
149:
PSU: #13 Bartlett vs #19 Yahya Thomas, NW
ASU: #5 Parco, ASU vs #4 Sasso, OSU (QF)
UM: N/A
157:
PSU: #16 Berge vs #15 Johnny Lovett, CMU
ASU: #3 Teemer, ASU vs #6 Franek, NDSU (QF)
UM: #8 Lewan, MICH vs #17 Willits, ORST (QF)
165:
PSU: N/A
ASU: #18 Anthony Valencia, ASU vs (11) Izzak Olejnik, NIU
UM: #6 Amine, MICH vs #3 Marinelli, IOWA (QF)
174:
PSU #1 CStar vs #9 Labriola, NEB (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #3 Massa, MICH vs #6 Plott, OKST (QF)
184:
PSU: #2 Brooks vs #7 Romero, OHST (QF)
ASU: N/A
UM: #1 Amine, MICH vs #9 Braunagel, ILL (QF)
197:
PSU: #1 Dean vs #8 Deprez, BING (QF)
ASU: #16 Kordell Norfleet, ASU vs #18 Luke Stout, PRIN
UM: #4 Brucki vs #19 Jacob Cardenas, COR
285:
PSU: #4 Kerkvliet vs #12 Lance, NEB (QF)
ASU: #2 Schultz, ASU vs #7 Parris, MICH (QF)
Winners of QF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
PSU is favored in all 6 QF matches.
ASU is favored in 4 QF matches.
Michigan is favored in 4 QF matches.
Iowa is favored in 2 QF matches by seeding.
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Should definitely be penalized. He does nothing and does it well. I wanted both Brady and Carr to win and it was pretty hard to watch someone do virtually zero and not get in trouble for it.
Sorry to hear that HS! Really sucks! Better day tomorrow!!!!
You earned an "F" today for your (lack of) comprehension of Team Scoring over this 3-day tournament.
Overall nice round. Rby with the pull back pin which was awesome. Stevenson with the jump over. Red got screwed by the ref. How can the ref make that call is beyond ridiculous. Lance wrestled well, brands whined and cried as usual. Dean got lucky but didn’t quit either so as they say in golf if you miss hit it hit it down the middle.
Hildebrandt pulled it out, wish we knew what has changed with his wrestling. Berge was in big champ form and I hope he keeps attacking.
Long day tomororw. Care and eirmann upset. Let’s hope our top guys keep rocking!!
Hildebrandt pulled it out, wish we knew what has changed with his wrestling. Berge was in big champ form and I hope he keeps attacking.
Long day tomororw. Care and eirmann upset. Let’s hope our top guys keep rocking!!
I’m just hoping we don’t get an overly ambitious ref in the rby/desanto semi tomorrow night based on how both Wilits’ matches hav been called.
I was exactly right. Thanks for playing. Your posting and Timing deserve an f. So see ya!!
Yeah it’s certainly not exciting wrestling. With certain officials he’s probably 0-2, with others he’s allowed to hang out long enough to do something wild like beat a guy like Carr.
Trumble with a pin in 197 consis for NC State, Iowa drops to 5th.
You mean no offense Lewan, who stalled through the Big and now the NCAA. You can add Cam Amine to list of Scum stallers.
Seriously, I looked at the bracket when they brought it up. If deacon gets upset then lewan may have a real shot. Just crazy when you think about that .otherwise deacon is very happy that carr lost.
Ed Scott & Quincy Monday are both better than that do-nothing Meat Chicken.
You don't know what the F you're mumbling about.
You're pulling your hair our over Hildebrand & Berge back side points, when all the major team points are awarded in the quarters and semis - by our studs.
Now you keep posting about a "Deacon" in the other thread. LOLOL
Deakin isn't even in Lewan's side + Quincy Monday & Ed Scott are better than Lewan.
Keep your half-brained thoughts to yourself. You're cluttering the board.
Deakin is in the bottom bracket as the two seed moron. So yes he is licking his chops that carr lost. Wake the f up. As anything can happen. Your like the guys on football that are excited when we are 5-0 in sept.
Tomorrow is a big day so we will see.
Hopefully we do well.
Stop being a condescending ass and let people say what they want and get off my back!!
You called him Deacon 🤣
This post you made earlier (copy & pasted below) really is the dumbest post of the day -
Stop posting about the team race - ok?
Read more, post less.
Have a nice night.
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Hildebrandt and berge losing in first round really hurts. We need bonus points this next round again from all of our guys. After that it is a toss up regarding bonus points since most of our guys keep it close..
berge and hildebrandt need to win at least 2 if not 3 for us to have a chance at team title. Beau needs to get lucky be sasso but that is doubtful and needs to win at least 2 in wrestle backs as well.
can kerk beat singleton. It is possible if he wrestles loose and fast and gets singles.
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pretty clearly 2 nf for aeillo. no guarantee his tank holds up if the correct call is made, but still a terrible call. and terrible calls happen and fans turn their eyes away from the ones that help their teams. just part of sports. iowa got one last year. you guys got one this year. it won't be last time for either of us. feel worse for the individuals who get screwed than anything.
No challenge brick?? If it’s an obvious mistake there should be a turnover or a review at the very least
Today's Summary: Mildly satisfied. Hoped for better. A few bonus points nearly cashed. Cautiously optimistic for tomorrow. Still wondering how someone could stand up...peel hands and then escape in 2 seconds. A bit peeved that so many wrestlers can do absolutely nothing offensively for nearly 7 minutes and still win at the last second or in overtime. Still can't understand stalling as it is called.....sometimes by the same ref. A wrestler gets pushed into the table and loses on a stall call........while others down block for pretty much the entire 7 minutes and get called once. "Tomorrow's Gonna Be a Brighter Day"........Jim Croce
I don’t disagree about those points in the Dean match, but I thought the ref also missed Dean’s back points in a later sequence. Dean appeared in control in a Peterson position where I thought a danger count or back points should have been awarded. However, I don’t trust my judgment at that time of day during NCAA wrestling 😁
I nominate this for post of the year.
Sounds awful! I am so sorry. I was pre-vet my first two years of college, then realized I didn’t think I could handle putting animals down, even when it’s the right thing to do.
I definitely thought it was two nearfall watching it live. Maybe it’s my homerism, but watching the sequence several times now, I’m not so sure. He may not have been past 45 for more than a second. Definitely looks more borderline than what I remembered anyway. To me, Dean’s danger takedown to win it was much less controversial, and potentially could’ve been nearfall for him too. I obviously don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theories, but this was a couple of tricky positions to get right. The nearfall was challenged however, and a different official reviewed the video and didn’t overturn the call. Survive and move on, right? 😬
Hats off to Aiello though. Kid balled out.
I thought it should have been 2, although it was pretty close. I had a 2 1/2 count, but the camera angle isn’t the best. Are there other cameras that refs have access to?
That being said, Aiello kind of bailed on the position a little early. I think he would have gotten it if he fought harder to keep Max there.
That being said…It’s kind of ridiculous to compare that to Warner being stuck flat for 2 minutes against Reenan.
Session 2 photos, again mostly LH stuff but plenty of Penn State in there too. Only Reid and Noto remain for the Haven, so I'll more flexibility going forward.
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NCAA Wrestling Tournament 2022 - Session 2
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Hello and welcome to Day 2 of the NCAA Wrestling Tournament!
After a dramatic first day that saw PSU take the early lead and hold it throughout the day, action begins on Day 2 at 11 a.m. with the quarterfinals and round of consolations at 11 a.m. ET followed by yet another round of consolations after. This morning's session should go a long way to determining a team title, which appears likely to come down to Penn State and Michigan at this point.
TV: ESPNU
Streaming: ESPN App/ESPN.com
Audio: https://gopsusports.com/watch/?Archive=7672&type=Archive
Brackets/Tournament Hub: https://www.trackwrestling.com/pred...ents/TournamentHub.jsp&twSessionId=uokgzcxmod
Below, @IndyLion1 has done a FANTASTIC job of summing up the situation headed into today's action, which can be watched live on ESPNU and the ESPN App.
Penn State has 9 wrestlers
Arizona State has 7 wrestlers
NC State has 10 wrestlers
Michigan has 9 wrestlers
Iowa has 10 wrestlers
Winners of QF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
Winners of SF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
Winner of Finals get 4 placement points + any bonus.
Winners of blood round matches get 3 placement points + 0.5 advancement + any bonus.
* if PSUs five 1-2 seeded wrestlers make the finals (even without bonus) it will be very difficult for other teams to beat PSU.
PSU is favored in 6 of 6 QF matches by seeds.
ASU is favored in 4 of 5 QF matches.
NC State is favored in 4 of 4 QF matches.
Michigan is favored in 4 of 7 QF matches.
Iowa is favored in 2 of 6 QF matches.
125:
PSU: #16 Hildebrandt vs #15 Teske UNI
ASU: #4 Courtney, ASU vs #5 Cardinale, WVU (QF)
UM: #1 Suriano, MICH vs #24 Latona, VT (QF)
Iowa: #13 Drake Ayala, IOWA vs #14 Jakob Camacho, NCST
133:
PSU: #1 RBY vs #25 Courtney, UVA (QF)
ASU: #3 McGee, ASU vs #6 Ragusin, MICH (QF)
Iowa: #5 DeSanto, Iowa vs #4 Myers, VT (QF)
141:
PSU: #1 Lee vs #8 Willits, ORST (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #24 Micic, MICH vs #26 Tal Shahar, NW
Iowa: #2 Jaydin Eierman, IOWA vs #17 Dylan D`Emilio, OHST (winner gets Micic Tal Shahar winner)
149:
PSU: #13 Bartlett vs #19 Yahya Thomas, NW
ASU: #5 Parco, ASU vs #4 Sasso, OSU (QF)
UM: None
Iowa: #8 Murin, IOWA vs #1 Diakomihalis, COR (QF)
NCS: #2 Wilson, NCST vs #10 Ridge Lovett, NEB (QF)
157:
PSU: #16 Berge vs #15 Johnny Lovett, CMU
ASU: #3 Teemer, ASU vs #6 Franek, NDSU (QF)
UM: #8 Lewan, MICH vs #17 Willits, ORST (QF)
NCS: #4 Ed Scott, NCST vs #5 Quincy Monday, PRIN (QF)
Iowa: #9 Kaleb Young, IOWA vs #23 Markus Hartman, ARMY
165:
PSU: None
ASU: #18 Anthony Valencia, ASU vs (11) Izzak Olejnik, NIU
UM: #6 Amine, MICH vs #3 Marinelli, IOWA (QF)
174:
PSU #1 CStar vs #9 Labriola, NEB (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #3 Massa, MICH vs #6 Plott, OKST (QF)
NCS: #4 Hidlay, NCST vs #5 Kemerer, IOWA (QF)
184:
PSU: #2 Brooks vs #7 Romero, OHST (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #1 Amine, MICH vs #9 Braunagel, ILL (QF)
NCS: #3 Trent Hidlay, NCST vs #6 Trey Munoz, ORST (QF)
Iowa: #18 Abe Assad, IOWA vs #16 Dakota Geer, OKST
197:
PSU: #1 Dean vs #8 Deprez, BING (QF)
ASU: #16 Kordell Norfleet, ASU vs #18 Luke Stout, PRIN
UM: #4 Brucki vs #19 Jacob Cardenas, COR
Iowa: #6 Warner, IOWA vs #3 Eric Schultz, NEB (QF)
NCS: #15 Isaac Trumble, NCST vs #17 Jay Aiello, UVA
285:
PSU: #4 Kerkvliet vs #12 Lance, NEB (QF)
ASU: #2 Schultz, ASU vs #7 Parris, MICH (QF)
Iowa: #3 Cassioppi, IOWA vs #6 Wood, LEH (QF)
NCS: #21 Tyrie Houghton, NCST vs #11 Gary Traub, ORST
After a dramatic first day that saw PSU take the early lead and hold it throughout the day, action begins on Day 2 at 11 a.m. with the quarterfinals and round of consolations at 11 a.m. ET followed by yet another round of consolations after. This morning's session should go a long way to determining a team title, which appears likely to come down to Penn State and Michigan at this point.
TV: ESPNU
Streaming: ESPN App/ESPN.com
Audio: https://gopsusports.com/watch/?Archive=7672&type=Archive
Brackets/Tournament Hub: https://www.trackwrestling.com/pred...ents/TournamentHub.jsp&twSessionId=uokgzcxmod
Below, @IndyLion1 has done a FANTASTIC job of summing up the situation headed into today's action, which can be watched live on ESPNU and the ESPN App.
| Team Standings | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Team | Points | Maximum Potential Points | # QF | # SF | # Cons 2 | # Cons 3 | # Cons 4 (Rd of 12) |
| Penn State | 27.5 | 245 | 6 | 3 | |||
| Arizona State | 22 | 191 | 5 | 2 | |||
| North Carolina State | 21.5 | 264.5 | 4 | 6 | |||
| Michigan | 21 | 238 | 7 | 2 | |||
| Iowa | 20.5 | 262.5 | 6 | 4 |
Penn State has 9 wrestlers
Arizona State has 7 wrestlers
NC State has 10 wrestlers
Michigan has 9 wrestlers
Iowa has 10 wrestlers
Winners of QF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
Winners of SF matches get 6 placement points + 1 advancement + any bonus.
Winner of Finals get 4 placement points + any bonus.
Winners of blood round matches get 3 placement points + 0.5 advancement + any bonus.
* if PSUs five 1-2 seeded wrestlers make the finals (even without bonus) it will be very difficult for other teams to beat PSU.
PSU is favored in 6 of 6 QF matches by seeds.
ASU is favored in 4 of 5 QF matches.
NC State is favored in 4 of 4 QF matches.
Michigan is favored in 4 of 7 QF matches.
Iowa is favored in 2 of 6 QF matches.
125:
PSU: #16 Hildebrandt vs #15 Teske UNI
ASU: #4 Courtney, ASU vs #5 Cardinale, WVU (QF)
UM: #1 Suriano, MICH vs #24 Latona, VT (QF)
Iowa: #13 Drake Ayala, IOWA vs #14 Jakob Camacho, NCST
133:
PSU: #1 RBY vs #25 Courtney, UVA (QF)
ASU: #3 McGee, ASU vs #6 Ragusin, MICH (QF)
Iowa: #5 DeSanto, Iowa vs #4 Myers, VT (QF)
141:
PSU: #1 Lee vs #8 Willits, ORST (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #24 Micic, MICH vs #26 Tal Shahar, NW
Iowa: #2 Jaydin Eierman, IOWA vs #17 Dylan D`Emilio, OHST (winner gets Micic Tal Shahar winner)
149:
PSU: #13 Bartlett vs #19 Yahya Thomas, NW
ASU: #5 Parco, ASU vs #4 Sasso, OSU (QF)
UM: None
Iowa: #8 Murin, IOWA vs #1 Diakomihalis, COR (QF)
NCS: #2 Wilson, NCST vs #10 Ridge Lovett, NEB (QF)
157:
PSU: #16 Berge vs #15 Johnny Lovett, CMU
ASU: #3 Teemer, ASU vs #6 Franek, NDSU (QF)
UM: #8 Lewan, MICH vs #17 Willits, ORST (QF)
NCS: #4 Ed Scott, NCST vs #5 Quincy Monday, PRIN (QF)
Iowa: #9 Kaleb Young, IOWA vs #23 Markus Hartman, ARMY
165:
PSU: None
ASU: #18 Anthony Valencia, ASU vs (11) Izzak Olejnik, NIU
UM: #6 Amine, MICH vs #3 Marinelli, IOWA (QF)
174:
PSU #1 CStar vs #9 Labriola, NEB (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #3 Massa, MICH vs #6 Plott, OKST (QF)
NCS: #4 Hidlay, NCST vs #5 Kemerer, IOWA (QF)
184:
PSU: #2 Brooks vs #7 Romero, OHST (QF)
ASU: None
UM: #1 Amine, MICH vs #9 Braunagel, ILL (QF)
NCS: #3 Trent Hidlay, NCST vs #6 Trey Munoz, ORST (QF)
Iowa: #18 Abe Assad, IOWA vs #16 Dakota Geer, OKST
197:
PSU: #1 Dean vs #8 Deprez, BING (QF)
ASU: #16 Kordell Norfleet, ASU vs #18 Luke Stout, PRIN
UM: #4 Brucki vs #19 Jacob Cardenas, COR
Iowa: #6 Warner, IOWA vs #3 Eric Schultz, NEB (QF)
NCS: #15 Isaac Trumble, NCST vs #17 Jay Aiello, UVA
285:
PSU: #4 Kerkvliet vs #12 Lance, NEB (QF)
ASU: #2 Schultz, ASU vs #7 Parris, MICH (QF)
Iowa: #3 Cassioppi, IOWA vs #6 Wood, LEH (QF)
NCS: #21 Tyrie Houghton, NCST vs #11 Gary Traub, ORST
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I posted before that I think IMO this is called 2 "on the mat" most of the time in practice. The 45 doesn't have to be quite 45 and the 2 seconds can be pretty quick by most guys that ref.
The problem came when it wasn't called "on the mat." Really tough to overturn that call, because likely the review is not really clear - angle, whether back was covered, etc.
But at the end of the day, even if it is called 2 for Aiello, which in theory would make the match tied at the end of regulation, does anyone really think Aiello wins that match? Dean's been money in those situations all year. Aiello's not taking him down at that point in the match and if per chance it gets to TB, it's all Dean.
Thank you. I'm grateful that our wrestlers are healthy and doing so well. Let's enjoy some wonderful wrestling.
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