Yeah, let’s try no to be ****ing vultures. If he wants to come, fine, but let’s not do the “dream school” thing.
Yeah, let’s try no to be ****ing vultures. If he wants to come, fine, but let’s not do the “dream school” thing.
Besides, it's OK for other schools to have good wrestlers. National champs even.Yeah, let’s try no to be ****ing vultures. If he wants to come, fine, but let’s not do the “dream school” thing.
I thought Kirk was very conservative, but obviously it worked.Feldman was within 1 point of him, very recently.
Not only OK, it's good to keep a broader fan base interested/entertained. I love the Little Rock story. I hope they keep all their guys. I'd be against poaching anyone from them. Would love more Little Rock stories. Similar thoughts on wrestler like Keckeison. If they come to Cael then obviously it's different, but the team/program is stacked. It's OK to have competition.Besides, it's OK for other schools to have good wrestlers. National champs even.
We should feel secure enough to not be so greedy.
The Sasso situation is just a shame. I agree though if he wrestles at all it will be an amazing accomplishment. To be at an elite level after what he's gone through and going through would be amazing. Like Peyton Robb I hope he comes back strong.Returning Points for next year below.
TL;DR version: 2025 will be another fun year.
Caveats:
- Assumes Beau and Kerk both return, Carter does not.
- Some guys may or may not choose to extend via their Covid years. (I have an Excel filter set up to capture any such future changes.)
- Assumes no weight changes. Will adjust if any affect lineups.
- Have not yet incorporated 2023 points for guys who shirted or were injured this year. Example: Alirez will push Northern Colorado into the top 20.
I'll update with the 2023 points for shirts and injured guys, and when significant transfers occur.
Also, will likely exclude Sasso's 2023 points because I don't expect him to return, nor at a national finalist level if he somehow does.
# Team Pts 1Penn State 133.0 2Ohio State 62.0 3Nebraska 53.0 4Arizona State 47.5 T5Iowa 41.5 T5Virginia Tech 41.5 7Northern Iowa 39.5 8Iowa State 37.0 9Lehigh 36.5 10Missouri 35.0 11Stanford 34.0 12West Virginia 31.5 13Cornell 31.0 14Oklahoma State 28.5 15NC State 25.5 16Little Rock 24.0 17South Dakota State 22.5 18Oregon State 20.0 T19Michigan 17.5 T19Minnesota 17.5
Why do we need Keckeisen for Mirasola to redshirt? Cochran is a perfectly fine 197 for a year. Given his results this year, I think he'd be in the mix for an AA spot at nationals. Is that really going to cost PSU the title next year? LMAO. We just won by a hundred f-ing points.I think we go get Parker Kecieisen and put him up at 97 so Mirasola can shirt.
I hope I'm wrong about him returning, if that's what he wants. Though time is not his friend for his remaining folk eligibility even though he's a slam dunk 2024 medical shirt.The Sasso situation is just a shame. I agree though if he wrestles at all it will be an amazing accomplishment. To be at an elite level after what he's gone through and going through would be amazing. Like Peyton Robb I hope he comes back strong.
He took 3rd at nationals and showed he's right there. He may not want a punt year.Seems weird considering he was going to redshirt this year. Didn’t seem like an issue then or have things changed on his end since he got in the lineup?
Is 24-25 his last year to wrestle? It would be year 7 since he started.I hope I'm wrong about him returning, if that's what he wants. Though time is not his friend for his remaining folk eligibility even though he's a slam dunk 2024 medical shirt.
Barr beat Rocco Welsh at Fargo and lost to him at Dapper Dan in SV. He's going to be right there.I just realized that Slavikouski finished 7th at 285 so PSU's potential 197 next season pretty much dominated a 285 AA.
Sasso plans on returning next year based on what he has said online. Obviously what his body decides may be different unfortunatelyI hope I'm wrong about him returning, if that's what he wants. Though time is not his friend for his remaining folk eligibility even though he's a slam dunk 2024 medical shirt.
IMO Feldman is the favorite once Kerk is done. Schultz is the only other non-SR who looks like a title contender, and Feldman just handled him. (Plus Schultz will be a SR next year.)
But Kerk is better in all 3 positions, bigger, quicker, stronger, still improving, and Feldman is at the wrong school to figure out how to get out from under Kerk.
I agree with these overall points, but would not say that Kerk is quicker or faster than Feldman, who is really quick for a 285 and I'd wager can out-scramble any other heavy out there. Feldman is still an underdog versus Kerk, but it's not due to a quickness/speed deficit.Exactly. Kerk dwarfs Feldman. Feldman can get stronger I guess, but he’s not growing taller or getting longer limbs. Kerk is bigger and just as fast or faster - a bad combo for opponents.
Yes, and one can now better understand why Barr had trouble scoring against Welsh.Barr beat Rocco Welsh at Fargo and lost to him at Dapper Dan. He's going to be right there.
I agree, BUT, we should get a 1 year rental at 197 that is a lock to score points at NCAAs. We are set in the middle.I think we'll be just fine either way, transfers or no transfers.
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He has already shirted and competed in 4 years, so 2024 would've been his bonus Covid year.Is 24-25 his last year to wrestle? It would be year 7 since he started.
Leave Little Rock alone they deserve every good thing they get.Not that I expect him to transfer anywhere but I really like Little Rock’s Nasir Bailey. This despite him using more tape than Jack Lambert.
Davis got us the least points but 125 was always a crapshoot. Davis went 2 and 2 but he wrestled the champ Figiuroa really tough. He did much better than Ayala against him. I like his future.Agree. Despite a few bad breaks almost everything went perfect. It's an avalanche of points. Bartlet with a couple of pins, Kasak 3rd...It was a dominant performance who's point total and differential I believe will last for a long time.
2 Things mitch has to work on, protecting his legs better ,way to many easy take downs and getting of bottom more efficiently. Maybe cut his pace to protect his legs.125-Lilledahl
133-Nagao (Davis redshirts)
141-Bartlett
149-SVN (Kasak redshirts)
157-Mesenbrink
165-Levi
174-Facundo or Ryder
184-Barr
197-Mirasola
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I think Mirasola is going to be too good to redshirt. He beat max Dean this year for god sake! With all the top recruits coming in he falls under the radar a bit but he’s going to win multiple titles. Mark my words
Lilledahl steps in and has a real shot at winning it all as a true freshman. He’s that good. Davis redshirts and focuses on putting on good weight so he can take over 133.
Bartlett is definitely coming back and is going to go out on top.
I think people are forgetting how good SVN is. He beat this years national champ Henson last year and was looking like an absolute killer before he got hurt. Kasak is great as well but my $ is on SVN beating him. Kasak has a redshirt so he should use it and continue getting bigger and stronger. He can slot in at 157 the following year.
Mesenbrinks future is 74kg in freestyle but this coming year team wise it makes sense to go 157 if he can do it comfortably which from people like Askren it sounds like he can do. Mitch won’t lose again and will finish his college career with only 1 loss!
Levi goes up and quite possible he goes to 174 the next year. I think that he won’t lose again and will finish his career with 2 losses!
I feel like Facundo will be much improved. Training with Dake, Levi, Mesenbrink, etc will force you to improve. Ryder looks like a future multiple time champ though so he might just be good enough to force his way into the lineup. We will have to wait and see.
Barr needed a redshirt and seems to have really benefited from it. He looked great in the matches he got and then hearing the things his teammates say about him have me really excited about his prospects for the next year.
Kerk comes back for his second title and possible Hodge. He is one scary dude on the mat. No one will be close to him next year.
You don’t think Cochran can score points at nationals? He beat an AA HWT giving up 40lbs. He’s no Brooks obviously, but he absolutely would score at nationals and even be in the mix for AA. I’d love to see a room guy like that get a chance.I agree, BUT, we should get a 1 year rental at 197 that is a lock to score points at NCAAs. We are set in the middle.
I'd like to see Little Rocks AAs stay there. Help build their program.What about the 197 from Little Rock. Redshirt freshman placing 7th this year. His only losses came to the 3rd and 4th placers (twice each).
Agreed. Besides, why would we poach a 7th place AA with 3 more years left with the Mirasolas coming in? They need at most 1 year for a RS and Cochran is more than capable of covering that.I'd like to see Little Rocks AAs stay there. Help build their program.
Fully agree with you. My understanding is that most, if not all, of our transfers in contacted PSU first and not the other way around.I've said it before, but count me among those that truly prefers NOT pursuing a bunch of transfers. I know that everyone else is doing it and some are doing it a LOT, but I prefer going with those who committed to PSU in high school and I'm also OK with having a "gap" or two for a year in your lineup. It's how it's always been even for the better teams; it's not always possible to manage a lineup perfectly and have one stud wrestle after the last one graduates. I do think guys like Mesenbrink are an exception. He was a redshirt freshman with 3 college matches under his belt who realized that he had likely made a mistake and I THINK that he pursued PSU and not vice versa. Fortunately for PSU, the handful of transfers that we've had were quality kids who seemed to buy into the PSU philosophy, but I'm still not a huge fan and really wish the NCAA would get the transfer portal and NIL under control to some degree.
I agree. I especially don't like taking the big fish from the little pond.Besides, it's OK for other schools to have good wrestlers. National champs even.
We should feel secure enough to not be so greedy.
Could use a point getter at nationals at 133 and 197. 197 would be a one year rental,133 who knows the future.Cael has stated in an interview that he checks the portal everyday. It's his job to do so.
My take is... if a kid enters the portal, he wants to leave the school he is at. If I (as a coach) want him on my team, I contact him to guage interest.
Nagao got points at nationals, and was an AA the year before. That's not a point getter? Lilledahl is coming in next year, so even if you've completely written off Nagao after one slightly down year for some reason, Lilledahl and Davis can cover 125/133 for next year. Then Desmond is coming in the following year if you still aren't happy with that lineup. Howard is still around, too, if he's healthy (I don't think there was mention of how he's doing all season), and Cael Nasdeo with a year of NLWC greyshirt training as well.Could use a point getter at nationals at 133 and 197. 197 would be a one year rental,133 who knows the future.
He was disappointed but confident that better days are ahead.Don't give up on Nagao, I think he will be back on the podium next year, possibly high up.
Brooks and Hidlay are done as is Sloan, so 3 of top 6 finishers aren't back. Deprez rd 12 is done as well. Tough field, but Cochran has a shot.Cochran won’t be competing for AA at 197 next year. He will be competing for top of podium.
Who is left at 133? Covid years and Olympic years are confusing.Don't give up on Nagao, I think he will be back on the podium next year, possibly high up.
Neither. Both were 7 years out of HS this year.Who is left at 133? Covid years and Olympic years are confusing.
Fix?
Vito?
My post was deleted with a note stating "put the user on ignore if you dont like what they post". Apparently its against the rules to have a differing opinion on here.Hey jar head. Did someone pi$$ in your cheerios this morning?? Heard you got 26" of the white stuff over your way. We got 21 here. Pretty much put the kibosh to maple syrup Sunday. I had maybe 20 people show up. How about you??
And yes, we definitely don't need to cherry pick other teams' wrestlers. We'll leave that to the fledgling teams.