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2024 NCAA's - Match/discussion threads (merged)

Add the SF and consi round 4 numbers together. PSU has 10. NEB, who is in 12th place has 7. Four other teams have 6 left.

Team Standings
TeamPointsMaximum
Potential
Points
If
Seeds
Hold
# SF# F# Cons 4
(Rd of 12)
# Cons 5
(All Amer.)
# Cons Semi# 7th-8th
Penn State
86.5​
254.5​
152​
6​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Michigan
50.5​
130​
66​
4​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
Arizona State
44.5​
104.5​
66.5​
4​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa State
42​
150​
67​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa
41.5​
149.5​
67.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Ohio State
36​
105​
57.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
Virginia Tech
35.5​
143.5​
52.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
North Carolina State
33.5​
146​
84.5​
1​
0​
5​
0​
0​
0​
Missouri
33​
121.5​
48.5​
2​
0​
3​
0​
0​
0​
Oklahoma State
33​
102​
48.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
For comparison:
2024 PSU after Session 3: 86.5 pts
2023 2nd place final score: 82.0 pts
 
Check this bit of desperation from number one hawk fan himself, the fake a$$ "MSU158", who masqueraded for YEARS on "the mat" until I outed him as a hawk fan and he eventually said "screw it" and gave up the fraud ..

"I know the Ferraris have done enough to make many here not want them no matter what. I do pretty much feel that way now about Anthony. But, I am still willing to consider the NCAA Champ Ferrari if he can toe the line from now until next season"

Yep. Ole 158 is willing to let go of the splits and the double bird and EVERYTHING ELSE 😂
 
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I love to listen to Byers (even if he can't pronounce "sixth"). He's usually close to flawless in his commentating, but the poor guy is struggling to keep up today. Missing whole matches, wrongly reporting matches done when it's only the end of the 1st or 2nd period, assuming wins for a particular wrestler when he sees no action on the mat, calculating a wrongly called “winner’s” next opponent, drearily forecasting Carter’s likely loss to Mekhi, etc. 🤣

Hopefully someone will get him a 6 pack of 5-hour energy bottles for tonight’s round.
I know a doctor who is there for the tournament. Maybe he will prescribe some Adderall for JB
 
I love to listen to Byers (even if he can't pronounce "sixth"). He's usually close to flawless in his commentating, but the poor guy is struggling to keep up today. Missing whole matches, wrongly reporting matches done when it's only the end of the 1st or 2nd period, assuming wins for a particular wrestler when he sees no action on the mat, calculating a wrongly called “winner’s” next opponent, drearily forecasting Carter’s likely loss to Mekhi, etc. 🤣

Hopefully someone will get him a 6 pack of 5-hour energy bottles for tonight’s round.
He had Shapiro with a pin in quarters and then 10 minutes later he was announcing the end of the match. He tried to validate his earlier statement by saying that, no one was on the mat and maybe it was concussion protocol.??
He totally missed the first Kasak match. He thought he maybe got an injury default.??
I was nowhere near a TV or computer. I was relying on Byers keeping me in the loop.
Let's just say he was trying real hard and probably would benefit if he had a spotter helping him. I use to be a spotter at high school football games. Maybe I could get press credentials next year and help Ironhead 😏
 
He had Shapiro with a pin in quarters and then 10 minutes later he was announcing the end of the match. He tried to validate his earlier statement by saying that, no one was on the mat and maybe it was concussion protocol.??
He totally missed the first Kasak match. He thought he maybe got an injury default.??
I was nowhere near a TV or computer. I was relying on Byers keeping me in the loop.
Let's just say he was trying real hard and probably would benefit if he had a spotter helping him. I use to be a spotter at high school football games. Maybe I could get press credentials next year and help Ironhead 😏
They need to hire a color man. Not because he needs it, but for reasons above
 
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The fire Brands threads were up during and after Big 10’s. It’s nothing new. Same with finding guys in the portal.
Jm98 - serious question. Remember when Iowa somewhat unceremoniously dumped Zalesky back around 2002? I’d be surprised if the same happened to TnT, but do you think there is a possibility of a private meeting next week where they are told that they have to start doing better?
 
It might be time for me to enter the portal.
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So what are people thinking about Kasak vs Arrington? I’m sure many of you are familiar with Arrington so how does Kasak match up?

I really feel pretty good about all 6 in the semis. I think all 6 win. I’m not near as confident in our blood round guys. I think Davis beats Volk but that’s a tough match. Orine is favored over Nagao but Aaron has looked really good in his last few matches. He can definitely win but it’s another super tough match. Pretty much exact same thing Kasak. Arrington has to be the favorite but Kasak is wrestling really great right now and I can see him winning to become an AA. Truax worries me because of his injury. Fishback has had a good season but I would expect Bernie to beat him under normal circumstances. That being said, I just don’t know how hurt he is. Hopefully he’s ok and can gut out a win to become a 4 time AA

I feel for Caliendo. He just had maybe the biggest win of his career to make the semis at the national tournament and his reward is Mesenbrink who just gave him what I would think is his worst beating ever. I don’t expect another tech but MM is just a bad stylistic matchup for Caliendo. One more win for both MM and O’Toole and we will finally get the match that everyone wants to see. Can’t wait!

My big upset pick is Echemendia beating Mendez. Echemendia can match his physicality and is incredible from neutral. Mendez needs to put a ride on him but Echemendia has gotten much much better from the bottom position

Just over an hour until the beginning of the best night in all of sports. There is nothing like the semis and the blood round
 
Add the SF and consi round 4 numbers together. PSU has 10. NEB, who is in 12th place has 7. Four other teams have 6 left.

Team Standings
TeamPointsMaximum
Potential
Points
If
Seeds
Hold
# SF# F# Cons 4
(Rd of 12)
# Cons 5
(All Amer.)
# Cons Semi# 7th-8th
Penn State
86.5​
254.5​
152​
6​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Michigan
50.5​
130​
66​
4​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
Arizona State
44.5​
104.5​
66.5​
4​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa State
42​
150​
67​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Iowa
41.5​
149.5​
67.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
Ohio State
36​
105​
57.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
Virginia Tech
35.5​
143.5​
52.5​
2​
0​
4​
0​
0​
0​
North Carolina State
33.5​
146​
84.5​
1​
0​
5​
0​
0​
0​
Missouri
33​
121.5​
48.5​
2​
0​
3​
0​
0​
0​
Oklahoma State
33​
102​
48.5​
2​
0​
2​
0​
0​
0​
I'm pretty sure we were the only team with 10 left after yesterday's second session.
 
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FYI - I’m not trying to start a GOAT argument here because I know everyone loves Byers a lot. But the guy who was always on top of it all was Ed Aliverti who I knew personally. He was always the head announcer at the NCAA tournament along with every big wrestling event including the Olympics. But he also was there for local HS events in WA where he lived. He was an amazing guy who unfortunately left us a little too soon because of cancer. Anyone who was at the NCAA tournaments prior to around 2000 will remember him.
 
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So what are people thinking about Kasak vs Arrington? I’m sure many of you are familiar with Arrington so how does Kasak match up?

I really feel pretty good about all 6 in the semis. I think all 6 win. I’m not near as confident in our blood round guys. I think Davis beats Volk but that’s a tough match. Orine is favored over Nagao but Aaron has looked really good in his last few matches. He can definitely win but it’s another super tough match. Pretty much exact same thing Kasak. Arrington has to be the favorite but Kasak is wrestling really great right now and I can see him winning to become an AA. Truax worries me because of his injury. Fishback has had a good season but I would expect Bernie to beat him under normal circumstances. That being said, I just don’t know how hurt he is. Hopefully he’s ok and can gut out a win to become a 4 time AA

I feel for Caliendo. He just had maybe the biggest win of his career to make the semis at the national tournament and his reward is Mesenbrink who just gave him what I would think is his worst beating ever. I don’t expect another tech but MM is just a bad stylistic matchup for Caliendo. One more win for both MM and O’Toole and we will finally get the match that everyone wants to see. Can’t wait!

My big upset pick is Echemendia beating Mendez. Echemendia can match his physicality and is incredible from neutral. Mendez needs to put a ride on him but Echemendia has gotten much much better from the bottom position

Just over an hour until the beginning of the best night in all of sports. There is nothing like the semis and the blood round
Hopeful for Davis.

Not very confident with Nagao, but we’ll see. Glad he rebounded from the R1 loss to win three.

Tough match for Kasak but note that Abas is still wrestling too. I’m hopeful. Also, NC State isn’t matching their impressive records and seeds; their conference isn’t the Big Ten.

Read above that Truax’s knee isn’t good. :(
 
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Does anyone give Sloan a chance against Hidlay? Sloan is wrestling really well right now. I think Hidlay is too powerful and good on his feet but Sloan is great on top if he gets the chance. I only give Sloan about a 10-15% chance but does anyone think he can pull it off?
 
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Does anyone give Sloan a chance against Hidlay? Sloan is wrestling really well right now. I think Hidlay is too powerful and good on his feet but Sloan is great on top if he gets the chance. I only give Sloan about a 10-15% chance but does anyone think he can pull it off?
I have seen the last two matches Sloan wrestle and he was tough. I am going with a toss up here .
 
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I remember going to eat between sessions in 2011 (in Philly) thinking that Cornell had it won... Then Friday night happened. Cornell hasn't quite been the same since.
Oh yeah - I remember thinking the same. Also, I know for a fact that the Cornell program has had it in for Penn State ever since that happened. It’s also a good indicator that the Penn State program is running a straight show in spite of the accusations by vodka and his buddies. If the Cornell guys got even a hint of any improprieties by PSU, they would be on the phone with the compliance committee in a second.
 
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