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Any update on Nolf??? Anyone with insider info?

This may have been answered somewhere in the thread but I do not have time to scan through it all.

Where is Nolf seeded at NCAA’s if he MFF’s at B1G’s? Is it in the lower quarter or is it in the top 5?
Last year Suriano got a 3 seed, so I see no reason why Nolf's situation would be any different.
 
Last year Suriano got a 3 seed, so I see no reason why Nolf's situation would be any different.
Don’t take this the wrong way but Nolf is a defending champ and two time finalist.......which makes the situation different. There would be a litany of other things I could list, but you get my drift.

If he MFF at BT, there may be some blowback from other coaches......based on the Situation from last year.
 
I don't think Suriano's father prevented Nick from wrestling at NCAA's, he had visions of 4 NCAA titles dancing in his head. I think a huge reason why Suriano is no longer at PSU is because of the father...wanting Nick to be the center of attention and basically wearing out his welcome at PSU.

I agree with all of that. And what I have heard was that Suriano's dad wasn't going to accept Nick just being on the podium at Nationals. I think Cael felt he'd still be an A-A, regardless, but that wasn't going to reconcile with those 4 national title sugarplums dancing in the father's head.
 
I agree with all of that. And what I have heard was that Suriano's dad wasn't going to accept Nick just being on the podium at Nationals. I think Cael felt he'd still be an A-A, regardless, but that wasn't going to reconcile with those 4 national title sugarplums dancing in the father's head.
Crap happens in life, sometimes you cannot control it. They did not handle it well. The PSU and tOSU dual, that is something he will never experience at Rutgers.
 
Crap happens in life, sometimes you cannot control it. They did not handle it well. The PSU and tOSU dual, that is something he will never experience at Rutgers.
And he'll never get that 4th title anyway. So he transfers, with the possibility of losing a year of eligibility. Still makes no sense to me.
 
And he'll never get that 4th title anyway. So he transfers, with the possibility of losing a year of eligibility. Still makes no sense to me.

The B1G did not do themselves any favors by allowing the waiver to wrestle this year. There is now a precedent that you can transfer within the B1G and compete right away for wrestling. They have to let anybody do this now.
 
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I don’t believe our medical staff will allow Nolf to wrestle unless they believe he is 99- 100% healthy.
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The takeaway: If Nolf wrestles, in either BIG or NCAAs, he will have to be 99% healthy.

I believe the decision will be made more on the assessment of risk for further damage rather than a percentage of his knee's health. There is difference. If the standard is that the knee be at least 99% healthy, there is no way he's going to be wrestling in March. Short of his eye lashes, no part of his body has been 99% healthy for years.
 
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I don’t believe our medical staff will allow Nolf to wrestle unless they believe he is 99- 100% healthy. Take Suriano’s case: last year we heard all kinds of positive developments on his injury that led us to believe he’d wrestle at the NCAAs. Suriano himself believed that he was healthy enough to go. The medical staff would not allow it. That angered Suriano so much that he transferred out and even taunted the medical staff with that comment “I didn’t need surgery.” It looks like he was right. The takeaway: If Nolf wrestles, in either BIG or NCAAs, he will have to be 99% healthy.
You are right about last year with what was said. But dont forget the 1st interview that NS gave at RU--he was asked about the injury--he said that he was not able to wrestle until May of last year. If that is the case how can the PSU coacing staff or the PSU medical staff be be faulted for him missing NCAA?
Im not stating that you are faulting PSU either---just putting my 2 cents in.
 
Truth is that none of us know anything about Jason's health status or how his rehab is going.

I guess my only point is to err on the side of extreme caution when it comes to participating in Bigs because, in my view, National Titles are the ultimate goal.

Does anyone give a s*** that tOSU won the Big 10 Tournament last year after we won another National Title? Of course not.
I disagree I think Cael and company cared a lot! that staff/team does not like to lose period. With that said they will not throw caution to the wind when if comes to Nolfs health.
 
I disagree I think Cael and company cared a lot! that staff/team does not like to lose period. With that said they will not throw caution to the wind when if comes to Nolfs health.
Would Cael have liked to have won B1G's last year, no doubt. I bet Cael can accept reality that without Suriano able to wrestle winning B1G's was going to be very difficult, little margin for error by our guys and needed Ohio State to under perform. Ohio State over performed, no Suriano, Ohio State B1G champs.
 
Would Cael have liked to have won B1G's last year, no doubt. I bet Cael can accept reality that without Suriano able to wrestle winning B1G's was going to be very difficult, little margin for error by our guys and needed Ohio State to under perform. Ohio State over performed, no Suriano, Ohio State B1G champs.
Did not need Ohio State to under perform, just needed both PSU and OSU to hit their seeds.

A day or two before the B1Gs I posted on here that without Suriano the PSU guys needed to be spot on because it was going to be close.

PSU did not wrestle a poor tournament, OSU did wrestle a great tournament.
 
And he'll never get that 4th title anyway. So he transfers, with the possibility of losing a year of eligibility. Still makes no sense to me.
Moreover he gave up the chance to potentially break an NCAA team scoring record and go down in history. That sure as he'll ain't happening at Rutgers!
 
Moreover he gave up the chance to potentially break an NCAA team scoring record and go down in history. That sure as he'll ain't happening at Rutgers!

My son reminds me that people are different and make different choices than we ourselves do, and would, make. But I made the point about the Ohio State match early on and totally agree with this one. I get that people are different, but these kinds of opportunities in life don't come along often, if ever, for *any* athlete - and to turn your back on even one of them (for what?), is something I'll never fully understand. It's like leaving the Boston Celtics of the 1960s to become the top guy on the Detroit Pistons. Yeah, you'll get more shots, but the team you left is one of the true dynasties in pro sports.
 
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Right and they won the best team in NJ trophy.

#itsthelittlethingsthatmatter
They might have a trophy, but they're not the best team in NJ.

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My son reminds me that people are different and make different choices than we ourselves do, and would, make. But I made the point about the Ohio State match early on and totally agree with this one. I get that people are different, but these kinds of opportunities in life don't come along often, if ever, for *any* athlete - and to turn your back on even one of them (for what?), is something I'll never fully understand. It's like leaving the Boston Celtics of the 1960s to become the top guy on the Detroit Pistons. Yeah, you'll get more shots, but the team you left is one of the true dynasties in pro sports.
I had a different perspective at 19 - although a bit shallow and sheltered. Need guidance and some wisdom to accept it.
 
I don't think I could disagree more. Why should the guy who has earned nothing get a chance to wrestle? The field is already too watered down in the early rounds. If a qualifier can't wrestle leave the spot open with no replacement unless it is a replacement from the same team, I think wrestlers should earn a "team" slot at that weight class. Shak wins BIG but gets hurt in practice bad enough he can't go at NCAA and as it sits now the slot would be given to JON D. Scrub from Chicago School of Canine Podiatry instead of Cassar. Dumb. I count the days between opportunities to watch Jason Nolf wrestle and he is worth keeping a slot open if there is a 10% chance he can give it a go. Nobody outside of his parents will pay to watch unnamed/undeserving wrestler #34 compete.
Suppose JON D. Scrub from Chicago School of Canine Podiatry qualifies by being the best of a 5 team conference that only gave an allocation to the champ at the weight because no one earned one... and by best I mean he won two matches at the conference tourney with the last via headlock as he was closing in on being tech'd by a guy with a losing record. If Jon got hurt according to you it would be his back up (well utility back up because the guy is 2nd on the depth chart at 174/184/197/Hwt) that would go to NCAAs, not Cassar or even the 34th best 197 but some guy wrestlestats has as the 112th ranked 174 cause as much of a "scrub" as Jon is, he can't beat out Jon.

Pass.
 
Suppose JON D. Scrub from Chicago School of Canine Podiatry qualifies by being the best of a 5 team conference that only gave an allocation to the champ at the weight because no one earned one... and by best I mean he won two matches at the conference tourney with the last via headlock as he was closing in on being tech'd by a guy with a losing record. If Jon got hurt according to you it would be his back up (well utility back up because the guy is 2nd on the depth chart at 174/184/197/Hwt) that would go to NCAAs, not Cassar or even the 34th best 197 but some guy wrestlestats has as the 112th ranked 174 cause as much of a "scrub" as Jon is, he can't beat out Jon.

Pass.
Because of an abberation of extra loaded talent like we have at one weight....that should be the rule??

Hit closer to home....and I mean zero offense. Keener qualifies, and gets hurt. Carpenter goes? George is happy but How on earth would that be fair?
 
I guess it comes down to arguing which undeserving guy should get in. I would let a guy from the team of the injured guy wrestle. It is not like you are replacing an injured guy with a deserving wrestler in either event.
 
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I suppose the best way is to allow the teams backup be considered for criteria. That would be fair. In this case Cassar would get in, since he could have at least 2 of the criteria for consideration for an at-large, and then would have the best qualifications.

But like anything else, you can see abuses. Suppose you wanted to get more recovery time for Suriano so you wrestled his backup who qualified and then magically got injured.

Always looks for unintended consequences.
 
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I guess it comes down to arguing which undeserving guy should get in. I would let a guy from the team of the injured guy wrestle. It is not like you are replacing an injured guy with a deserving wrestler in either event.
The 34th guy at most, if not all, weights will have put in more work and have a better resume than most teams back ups. In most cases the 34th guy is better than some of the other guys that are already in the field. Some of the field caught a break along the way whether it was during the season and/or at the conference tournament (last guy in at B1Gs if Nolf MFs out) that is no different other than timing for the 34th guy. As the next guy in line they are indeed deserving of the chance if it becomes available.
 
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I agree with all of that. And what I have heard was that Suriano's dad wasn't going to accept Nick just being on the podium at Nationals. I think Cael felt he'd still be an A-A, regardless, but that wasn't going to reconcile with those 4 national title sugarplums dancing in the father's head.
I have posted this comment before. I have knowledge that the Suriano situation and transfer was more to do with a non wrestling issue than his treatment of his injury. The Suriano's used the injury issue as the key factor to circumvent the Big Ten rules on transfers.
 
I have posted this comment before. I have knowledge that the Suriano situation and transfer was more to do with a non wrestling issue than his treatment of his injury. The Suriano's used the injury issue as the key factor to circumvent the Big Ten rules on transfers.

Translated: Daddy
 
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I have posted this comment before. I have knowledge that the Suriano situation and transfer was more to do with a non wrestling issue than his treatment of his injury. The Suriano's used the injury issue as the key factor to circumvent the Big Ten rules on transfers.
This has a ton of correct in it.
 
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For Christ's sake, just say it instead of pussyfooting around.
That last time I posted some more specific details the post got taken down by the higher ups. I've said enough. I just was trying to make everyone aware that assumes it was a wrestling/injury issue, that it is more than that on what led to the transfer.
 
We all know the answer to that. NO. It stinks but we will just have to wait and see come Big Tens if he will take the mat and wrestle. I have no clue but my gut tells me to give him the extra two weeks.
Stinks? I treat it like Christmas. When I open the gift, if it's what I wanted, I'm ecstatic. If it's not, what we've got is still pretty good, anyway.
 
That last time I posted some more specific details the post got taken down by the higher ups. I've said enough. I just was trying to make everyone aware that assumes it was a wrestling/injury issue, that it is more than that on what led to the transfer.

Time to put it in a google doc.
 
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