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Do we go to #2?

What about an 11-1 Indiana with a good loss to OSU? They will bump out a 2 loss SEC team like LSU or A&M. I think they are higher than a one loss ND as well based on who each team lost to (OSU for IU and NIU for ND).
 
What about an 11-1 Indiana with a good loss to OSU? They will bump out a 2 loss SEC team like LSU or A&M. I think they are higher than a one loss ND as well based on who each team lost to (OSU for IU and NIU for ND).

If Notre Dame wins out, they'd also add Army, Navy and USC to their wins. Indiana if they win out other than tOSU then their best win would be Washington or Michigan (or maybe Nebraska). I don't see IU being ranked above ND even if they have a "better loss"
 
Clemson beats an undefeated Miami in ACC championship game. Does Miami drop from 4-5 to outside top 11? Highly doubtful so ACC can get two in. Then ND probably out but if they only have one loss then it is LSU or A&M out. And we probably play the other one in 6 vs 11 game.
I think Miami would stay in the top 11 in that scenario but it depends on what the score is. Miami can't afford to get blown out without a quality win all year
 
What about an 11-1 Indiana with a good loss to OSU? They will bump out a 2 loss SEC team like LSU or A&M. I think they are higher than a one loss ND as well based on who each team lost to (OSU for IU and NIU for ND).

11-1 ND > 11-1 Indiana IMO but that depends on A&M. Indiana won't have a great win.
I still think 11-1 Indiana is in regardless--the Big XII is definitely rooting for them to lose 2 games and the SEC teams to lose 3.
 
If Notre Dame wins out, they'd also add Army, Navy and USC to their wins. Indiana if they win out other than tOSU then their best win would be Washington or Michigan (or maybe Nebraska). I don't see IU being ranked above ND even if they have a "better loss"
That's just the ND bs effect and the fact that Indiana has no brand. Sub out Indiana and put Michigan in then ND loses out to Michigan.
 
If Notre Dame wins out, they'd also add Army, Navy and USC to their wins. Indiana if they win out other than tOSU then their best win would be Washington or Michigan (or maybe Nebraska). I don't see IU being ranked above ND even if they have a "better loss"
Wait, USC is a good win for ND but means nothing for us? Not sure you can pump up Army and Navy too much. This comes down to bs politics of giving ND favored nation status over Indiana. Networks know the ratings ND gets and that is what it comes down to. If that happens and I don't disagree it could then it is just another example of the crooked, slimy process where middle aged men decide things instead of teams on the field. 1968, 1969, 1973 and 1994 say "Hi", btw.
 
Wait, USC is a good win for ND but means nothing for us? Not sure you can pump up Army and Navy too much. This comes down to bs politics of giving ND favored nation status over Indiana. Networks know the ratings ND gets and that is what it comes down to. If that happens and I don't disagree it could then it is just another example of the crooked, slimy process where middle aged men decide things instead of teams on the field. 1968, 1969, 1973 and 1994 say "Hi", btw.
That's the problem for ND--none of those teams are likely going to be ranked if ND wins all three of them. Army or Navy might go 11-1 but that's not a lock but both can't see they play each other
I still think people are overvaluing how the playoff committee will see ND
 
That's just the ND bs effect and the fact that Indiana has no brand. Sub out Indiana and put Michigan in then ND loses out to Michigan.

Notre Dame beat Texas A&M which is better than any team Indiana would defeat if IU doesn't beat Ohio St.

Wait, USC is a good win for ND but means nothing for us? Not sure you can pump up Army and Navy too much. This comes down to bs politics of giving ND favored nation status over Indiana. Networks know the ratings ND gets and that is what it comes down to. If that happens and I don't disagree it could then it is just another example of the crooked, slimy process where middle aged men decide things instead of teams on the field. 1968, 1969, 1973 and 1994 say "Hi", btw.

I don't think any of Navy/Army/USC are really all that good, but they are just as good if not better than any team Indiana will play the rest of the season except for Ohio State (and the premise is that IU is losing to tOSU; if IU beats tOSU then yes they will be ranked higher than Notre Dame).
 
Notre Dame beat Texas A&M which is better than any team Indiana would defeat if IU doesn't beat Ohio St.



I don't think any of Navy/Army/USC are really all that good, but they are just as good if not better than any team Indiana will play the rest of the season except for Ohio State (and the premise is that IU is losing to tOSU; if IU beats tOSU then yes they will be ranked higher than Notre Dame).
You are probably right.

What about us vs IU if both 11-1 and losing to OSU? They would have beaten Michigan and Washington. We would have beaten USC, Illinois, Washington and Wisky. Advantage us. Need Illinois to keep on winning and it would be nice for USC to finish strong.

Back to ND and IU. Both may get in at 11-1 if there are a bunch of 2 loss SEC teams.

Let's see....

Oregon
OSU
PSU
Georgia
Texas
Bama
Tenn
Clemson
Miami
Big 12
ND
Group of 5

This could be it and IU is odd man out. Tenn would have 2 losses to Arkansas and Georgia. Big win over Bama gets them in. If it is LSU or Texas A&M (say Tenn loses to Vandy to give them 3rd loss) they probably lose out to them as well even if both have 2 losses. As I think about it the only shot Indiana has if ND has one loss is to hope Tenn, LSU, A&M all get a 3rd loss.
 
You are probably right.

What about us vs IU if both 11-1 and losing to OSU? They would have beaten Michigan and Washington. We would have beaten USC, Illinois, Washington and Wisky. Advantage us. Need Illinois to keep on winning and it would be nice for USC to finish strong.

Back to ND and IU. Both may get in at 11-1 if there are a bunch of 2 loss SEC teams.

Let's see....

Oregon
OSU
PSU
Georgia
Texas
Bama
Tenn
Clemson
Miami
Big 12
ND
Group of 5

This could be it and IU is odd man out. Tenn would have 2 losses to Arkansas and Georgia. Big win over Bama gets them in. If it is LSU or Texas A&M (say Tenn loses to Vandy to give them 3rd loss) they probably lose out to them as well even if both have 2 losses. As I think about it the only shot Indiana has if ND has one loss is to hope Tenn, LSU, A&M all get a 3rd loss.
You have Clemson beating a 12-0 Miami...if not I wouldn't count them in
 
You have Clemson beating a 12-0 Miami...if not I wouldn't count them in
I agree. Clemson with two losses (losing to Miami in ccg) may not stack up great vs a one loss Indiana. Their marquee wins would be Pitt and South Carolina. Indiana needs Michigan and Washington to win except when they play them.
 
The rankings have nothing to do with who makes the playoffs or how those teams are seeded. The CFP folks will start releasing their own rankings in 2 weeks on Nov 5... right after our game with tOSU in fact.
And the CFP folks won’t look at the polls to determine what are better wins…..yeah, right…bwahaha. The polls, starting with the preseason polls, have a much bigger impact on who makes the playoffs than many on here want to admit.
 
And the CFP folks won’t look at the polls to determine what are better wins…..yeah, right…bwahaha. The polls, starting with the preseason polls, have a much bigger impact on who makes the playoffs than many on here want to admit.

Typically the first CFP ranking of the year has a team or two significantly off from the polls and then its the polls that tend to drift more towards being consistent with what the CFP rankings are as the season closes out. If the CFP rankings came out today, I'd guess that - for example - Indiana would be in the top 10.
 
I don't deny some bias towards the SEC, but I think PSU's lack of a signature win is the reason Georgia is ahead of us. USC could have been that win, but they're not that good. I believe that if we beat OSU, we'll deserve to be ranked ahead of UGA, maybe Oregon.

That's assuming a win in Madison, which I am not prepared to do. This season, more than most, has reminded me that anything can happen. DA grew up some against USC. I hope that fire he showed is contagious. And the defense has to improve. Tackling was pretty awful against USC.
Still waiting for anyone to tell me what the Texa$ signature win was. And Georgia calls beating Texa$ a signature win? So far this year there were only two signature wins at all, and that was Northern Illinois at Notre Dame, and Vanderbilt over Alabama. Everything else depends on the rankings in December, not today.
 
The great news is that all we all know this talk about hypothetical rankings based on hypothetical outcomes is bunk … as there will be many surprise outcomes between now and the end of the season. This is the ultimate exercise in time wasting boredom.
 
Still waiting for anyone to tell me what the Texa$ signature win was. And Georgia calls beating Texa$ a signature win? So far this year there were only two signature wins at all, and that was Northern Illinois at Notre Dame, and Vanderbilt over Alabama. Everything else depends on the rankings in December, not today.
Lol at UGa not having of signature wins over Texas and Clemson. Or Oregon Ober Ohio State. You're argument Texas lacks one is great until you reach with this nonsense
 
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