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Iowa @ Ohio State PBP, Results and Discussion Thread

Alright let's give you a little lesson with raw facts and video evidence. You want to keep talking about delusion. You're showing extreme cases of it.

Let's start with Sorensen since you want to be corrected on that match apparently.

Here's what you said about Sorensen:

"Snorenson was not in control of the match and was losing until the 3rd. I understand you are completely delusional but stop quoting my posts trying to convince me of what I saw. I have more than enough wrestling experience to draw my own conclusions. Sorenson will not be the favorite to make the finals come March, similar to last year when he was the 4 seed after being the 2 all year. Myles dominated the entire match and the score was not messed up, you are dumb. Martin dominated and got unlucky in a late scramble to miss the tech."

Sorensen losing until the 3rd period? No.

First period 0-0 not a lot of action. Sorensen took 4 shots to Hayes 1 shot. Sorensen was generally the aggressor and controlled the majority of the ties. Overall a pretty inactive period by both guys.

Second period. Sorensen chooses down. He's up and out within 10 seconds and takes the lead 1-0. Sorensen takes the first shot of the period as Hayes is backing up. Stall warning on Hayes. Hayes shoots a double as he's backing up and Sorensen is chasing. Sorensen counters. Hayes sticks with it and gets ahold of far ankle. Finishes really well for the first TD of the match. 2-1 Hayes. Sorensen escapes within 5 seconds of being taken down. Match tied up 2-2. Minuscule riding time advantage for Hayes. Neither guy shoots the rest of the period.

Third period. Hayes chooses neutral. Sorensen with a half shot followed by another shot. Sorensen the aggressor. Sorensen with another shot. Nothing from Hayes 35 seconds into period 3. Hayes shoots a long double that is stuffed and immediately puts his head onto the mat. Sorensen tries to circle for two, and drives Hayes out of bounds. 1:06 remaining still tied 2-2. 16 seconds riding time for Hayes. Sorensen shoots a deep single just after the whistle. Gets in deep and elevates. Puts Hayes in danger, and then finishes the shot for 2. 4-2 lead for Sorensen. Sorensen rides out remaining 46 seconds and Hayes does not come close at all to escaping. 4-2 win for Sorensen with 30 seconds of riding time.

Sorensen took more shots, was the aggressor, controlled the tie ups. Had more riding time. Got the only escape of the match. Each guy with one takedown. Hayes had a great shot and finish but that was it the entire match. Hayes had the lead for a whopping 10 seconds in the match. Remainder was tied or Sorensen with the lead.

By no means did Hayes control that match. You claim Sorensen won't be the favorite to make the finals come March? How is that so? It is a clear cut Zain #1 and Sorensen #2 and that isn't changing unless Sorensen loses. Like it or not, Sorensen is the heavy favorite to make the finals. Does that mean he is guaranteed to do so? Absolutely not but he is undoubtedly the favorite right now.

Ok now let's pull up the video of Martin Bowman. Here's the link for you. Doesn't work in chrome. Works for me in IE: https://www.btn2go.com/embed?id=29494

Third period. Martin with a 15-5 lead and riding time at 1:06 for Martin but counting down since Bowman is riding on top. Martin starts to come up. Bowman drops down to a leg and is in a single leg take down finish with the leg elevated above his head. He's still in control on top at this time. He's grabbing a hold of Martin's ankle. He has full control with Martin not close to going around. Bowman then goes to 2 hands on the one ankle. Martin's shoe pops off and he spins behind for what looks like a reversal, but clearly only got out because of his shoe coming off. Ref calls delay of match. Brands checks with official to confirm if it was injury time since the shoe came off. Official confirms that it was injury time. The ref did not award a reversal. In fact he was going to resume the match with Bowman on top since it was not a reversal. Since it was injury time, Bowman gets his choice in position and chooses down. You can hear the official as clear as day saying "no reversal" in the broadcast. However, the people working the scoring table awarded 2 to Martin erroneously. The scoreboard is showing 17-5. You can even hear someone in the background shout "Score's wrong". Next Brands asks "did you award a reversal??" The official says, "no, no it was just injury time". You can even hear the official say the score should be at 15. However, he never corrected the scoreboard and the score remained incorrect for the remainder of the match and resulted in a major instead of a decision. So the match then resumes with Bowman getting his choice following the Martin injury time. Bowman chooses down. Bowman then gets an escape immediately. Now score should be 6-15. Bowman locks up a cradle on a go behind with 19 seconds remaining. Gets the TD so now score should be 15-8. Match concludes. No riding time pt for either guy. Final score on scoreboard is incorrectly showing 17-8. Match is truly 15-8 which is a 7 pt decision not a 9 pt major.

These are all facts. Goodluck arguing against all of that video evidence. Am I still the delusional one or is ironically you? You claim you have more than enough wrestling experience to know what you saw. Well your eyes are lying to you then. You can't deny reality and facts.

And one last final point. You claimed Martin got "unlucky" in a late scramble to miss the tech. So now you're using luck as a valid reason why Martin didn't get the tech? You gotta be kidding me Dr. delusion lmfao. Couldn't it be unlucky for Bowman that he didn't get the fall? He had the cradle locked up and was turning Martin over. Just ridiculous to call that unlucky for Martin lol. The fact is Bowman was closer to winning the match than Martin was to the tech.

Can't wait to hear your rebuttal to the facts. I expect an apology.
Is giving you an apology a vodka internet rule?
Is there a printed version of these internet rules you seem to constantly reference, or are they club related or something?
Being right about anything does not necessarily lead to a conclusion that you are not delusional. It is that snap shot and photo album Confucius thing again.
 
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Is giving you an apology a vodka internet rule?
Is there a printed version of these internet rules you seem to constantly reference, or are they club related or something?
Being right about anything does not necessarily lead to a conclusion that you are not delusional. It is that snap shot and photo album Confucius thing again.

You have a weird obsession with me.

Quote one post of mine that is "delusional". I want a direct quote of something I actually typed. Not your twisted misrepresentation.

Notice how there is nothing but crickets from pawrest01 now? Think he'll have the humility to admit he was wrong about the reversal and wrong to call me delusional and dumb regarding that? Doubt it. The ego is a mfer. Hard to admit you were wrong after calling a guy a delusional idiot 3 times in a row despite the facts and video evidence supporting his point.
 
You have a weird obsession with me.

Quote one post of mine that is "delusional". I want a direct quote of something I actually typed. Not your twisted misrepresentation.

Notice how there is nothing but crickets from pawrest01 now? Think he'll have the humility to admit he was wrong about the reversal and wrong to call me delusional and dumb regarding that? Doubt it. The ego is a mfer. Hard to admit you were wrong after calling a guy a delusional idiot 3 times in a row despite the facts and video evidence supporting his point.


Do you get paid monopoly money by the word. Good lord you type too much. You also obsess too much. For the last time, please get another hobby for your own sanity and for our board's sanity. Stop clogging the threads. Go to private message if you need to get your point across. This is luanacy to open a thread and see paragraph after paragraph of nonsense. In short go away or type less.
 
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Do you get paid monopoly money by the word. Good lord you type too much. You also obsess too much. For the last time, please get another hobby for your own sanity and for our board's sanity. Stop clogging the threads. Go to private message if you need to get your point across. This is luanacy to open a thread and see paragraph after paragraph of nonsense. In short go away or type less.

Yeah I shouldn't have to type a 2 page paper explaining how the 2 pts that lead to a major were a mistake, but the guy insisted in 3 separate posts that I was a delusional idiot. My initial posts were much shorter. I llater had to provide him the video link and detailed explanation and he trippled down and said I must have been sitting close at the meet to hear the explanation and that I'm dumb lol.

You do have the option of muting me if you take issue with the length of my posts. Or you could call out your fellow psu poster for being a blockhead and rejecting facts and video evidence.
 
You have a weird obsession with me.

Quote one post of mine that is "delusional". I want a direct quote of something I actually typed. Not your twisted misrepresentation.

Notice how there is nothing but crickets from pawrest01 now? Think he'll have the humility to admit he was wrong about the reversal and wrong to call me delusional and dumb regarding that? Doubt it. The ego is a mfer. Hard to admit you were wrong after calling a guy a delusional idiot 3 times in a row despite the facts and video evidence supporting his point.

Let’s be fair here, you have a weird obsession with what people think over here. Let it go. Breathe. Stop talking. Please.
 
Alright let's give you a little lesson with raw facts and video evidence. You want to keep talking about delusion. You're showing extreme cases of it.

Let's start with Sorensen since you want to be corrected on that match apparently.

Here's what you said about Sorensen:

"Snorenson was not in control of the match and was losing until the 3rd. I understand you are completely delusional but stop quoting my posts trying to convince me of what I saw. I have more than enough wrestling experience to draw my own conclusions. Sorenson will not be the favorite to make the finals come March, similar to last year when he was the 4 seed after being the 2 all year. Myles dominated the entire match and the score was not messed up, you are dumb. Martin dominated and got unlucky in a late scramble to miss the tech."

Sorensen losing until the 3rd period? No.

First period 0-0 not a lot of action. Sorensen took 4 shots to Hayes 1 shot. Sorensen was generally the aggressor and controlled the majority of the ties. Overall a pretty inactive period by both guys.

Second period. Sorensen chooses down. He's up and out within 10 seconds and takes the lead 1-0. Sorensen takes the first shot of the period as Hayes is backing up. Stall warning on Hayes. Hayes shoots a double as he's backing up and Sorensen is chasing. Sorensen counters. Hayes sticks with it and gets ahold of far ankle. Finishes really well for the first TD of the match. 2-1 Hayes. Sorensen escapes within 5 seconds of being taken down. Match tied up 2-2. Minuscule riding time advantage for Hayes. Neither guy shoots the rest of the period.

Third period. Hayes chooses neutral. Sorensen with a half shot followed by another shot. Sorensen the aggressor. Sorensen with another shot. Nothing from Hayes 35 seconds into period 3. Hayes shoots a long double that is stuffed and immediately puts his head onto the mat. Sorensen tries to circle for two, and drives Hayes out of bounds. 1:06 remaining still tied 2-2. 16 seconds riding time for Hayes. Sorensen shoots a deep single just after the whistle. Gets in deep and elevates. Puts Hayes in danger, and then finishes the shot for 2. 4-2 lead for Sorensen. Sorensen rides out remaining 46 seconds and Hayes does not come close at all to escaping. 4-2 win for Sorensen with 30 seconds of riding time.

Sorensen took more shots, was the aggressor, controlled the tie ups. Had more riding time. Got the only escape of the match. Each guy with one takedown. Hayes had a great shot and finish but that was it the entire match. Hayes had the lead for a whopping 10 seconds in the match. Remainder was tied or Sorensen with the lead.

By no means did Hayes control that match. You claim Sorensen won't be the favorite to make the finals come March? How is that so? It is a clear cut Zain #1 and Sorensen #2 and that isn't changing unless Sorensen loses. Like it or not, Sorensen is the heavy favorite to make the finals. Does that mean he is guaranteed to do so? Absolutely not but he is undoubtedly the favorite right now.

Ok now let's pull up the video of Martin Bowman. Here's the link for you. Doesn't work in chrome. Works for me in IE: https://www.btn2go.com/embed?id=29494

Third period. Martin with a 15-5 lead and riding time at 1:06 for Martin but counting down since Bowman is riding on top. Martin starts to come up. Bowman drops down to a leg and is in a single leg take down finish with the leg elevated above his head. He's still in control on top at this time. He's grabbing a hold of Martin's ankle. He has full control with Martin not close to going around. Bowman then goes to 2 hands on the one ankle. Martin's shoe pops off and he spins behind for what looks like a reversal, but clearly only got out because of his shoe coming off. Ref calls delay of match. Brands checks with official to confirm if it was injury time since the shoe came off. Official confirms that it was injury time. The ref did not award a reversal. In fact he was going to resume the match with Bowman on top since it was not a reversal. Since it was injury time, Bowman gets his choice in position and chooses down. You can hear the official as clear as day saying "no reversal" in the broadcast. However, the people working the scoring table awarded 2 to Martin erroneously. The scoreboard is showing 17-5. You can even hear someone in the background shout "Score's wrong". Next Brands asks "did you award a reversal??" The official says, "no, no it was just injury time". You can even hear the official say the score should be at 15. However, he never corrected the scoreboard and the score remained incorrect for the remainder of the match and resulted in a major instead of a decision. So the match then resumes with Bowman getting his choice following the Martin injury time. Bowman chooses down. Bowman then gets an escape immediately. Now score should be 6-15. Bowman locks up a cradle on a go behind with 19 seconds remaining. Gets the TD so now score should be 15-8. Match concludes. No riding time pt for either guy. Final score on scoreboard is incorrectly showing 17-8. Match is truly 15-8 which is a 7 pt decision not a 9 pt major.

These are all facts. Goodluck arguing against all of that video evidence. Am I still the delusional one or is ironically you? You claim you have more than enough wrestling experience to know what you saw. Well your eyes are lying to you then. You can't deny reality and facts.

And one last final point. You claimed Martin got "unlucky" in a late scramble to miss the tech. So now you're using luck as a valid reason why Martin didn't get the tech? You gotta be kidding me Dr. delusion lmfao. Couldn't it be unlucky for Bowman that he didn't get the fall? He had the cradle locked up and was turning Martin over. Just ridiculous to call that unlucky for Martin lol. The fact is Bowman was closer to winning the match than Martin was to the tech.

Can't wait to hear your rebuttal to the facts. I expect an apology.

I often think you are an idiot for coming over to this board, especially when you promised not to do so, but I do agree with the part in bold. Either the ref lost complete control of the scoring in that match or he was confused on the reversal/no reversal call. You can see that he awarded the two as the shoe was coming off, but he did say “no reversal” several times after the delay.
 
Yeah I shouldn't have to type a 2 page paper explaining how the 2 pts that lead to a major were a mistake, but the guy insisted in 3 separate posts that I was a delusional idiot. My initial posts were much shorter. I llater had to provide him the video link and detailed explanation and he trippled down and said I must have been sitting close at the meet to hear the explanation and that I'm dumb lol.

You do have the option of muting me if you take issue with the length of my posts. Or you could call out your fellow psu poster for being a blockhead and rejecting facts and video evidence.


Nope, I'm calling out you for feeling the need to go back and forth on another team's forum. You can private message someone to fulfill your need to be right. This is not your forum and your insistence on typing paragraph after paragraph is trolling. Doesn't matter if you believe you are right. 99 percent of this forum doesn't give a shit about 2 points in the Martin Match. This is not your forum Vodka. Do you understand?
 
Nope, I'm calling out you for feeling the need to go back and forth on another team's forum. You can private message someone to fulfill your need to be right. This is not your forum and your insistence on typing paragraph after paragraph is trolling. Doesn't matter if you believe you are right. 99 percent of this forum doesn't give a shit about 2 points in the Martin Match. This is not your forum Vodka. Do you understand?

You're calling me out for going back and forth on another team's forum? I said I'd stay away from here, and only returned after one of your own psu posters intentionally misquoted me at an attempt at mockery. You expect me to stay away, but posters here are going to mention me constantly while I am gone haha.

Let me get this right. Because I am not a PSU fan I am a troll? This is a post about Iowa and OSU.

If you don't like reading my posts mute me. I don't think it's a requirement to be a PSU fan to post on this forum. Or you could post 5 more times about how I type too much and shouldn't post here.
 
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You're calling me out for going back and forth on another team's forum? I said I'd stay away from here, and only returned after one of your own psu posters intentionally misquoted me at an attempt at mockery. You expect me to stay away, but posters here are going to mention me constantly while I am gone haha.

Let me get this right. Because I am not a PSU fan I am a troll? This is a post about Iowa and OSU.

If you don't like reading my posts mute me. I don't think it's a requirement to be a PSU fan to post on this forum. Or you could post 5 more times about how I type too much and shouldn't post here.


Im going to try to help you understand. I could go to the HR and post 3 or 4 topics that would get bites from HR poster. Hypocritical nature regarding PD3, holding Stoll out, Terry upstaging Clark at Nationals etc etc. Then because I believe im right I could type page after page defending my position. But I dont because its not my forum and its common courtesy to not destroy threads on another board. The simple answer is not me putting you on ignore but you going to PM to vigorously defend yourself. You are the visitor. Its not your house. Its common courtesy. This isnt hard to figure out. Opinions differ on boards. Type it but we dont need war and peace. Its common sense.
 
Is_there_vodka_in_heaven and pawrest01,
Hayes vs Sorenson match, I believe that neither dominated the match until the ride out to end the period by Sorenson. It appeared to me that Hayes strategically got Sorenson to wrestle his game plan which was to stay out of ties and shoot from space. Even when in ties, Sorenson didn't control them. I just don't think that Hayes executed it very well because when he was posting, he should've pushed Sorenson back and that didn't happen. Sorenson is clearly the 2nd best 149# behind Rutherford and I would be surprised if they didn't met in the finals.
 
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You have a weird obsession with me.

Quote one post of mine that is "delusional". I want a direct quote of something I actually typed. Not your twisted misrepresentation.

Notice how there is nothing but crickets from pawrest01 now? Think he'll have the humility to admit he was wrong about the reversal and wrong to call me delusional and dumb regarding that? Doubt it. The ego is a mfer. Hard to admit you were wrong after calling a guy a delusional idiot 3 times in a row despite the facts and video evidence supporting his point.
I think the quiet you hear from pawrest is him not finding any humor in you. Just a tiny annoyance that he finds easy to ignore.

You probably need to get over yourself just a bit. I mean come on now. You demand this, you site these internet rules. You state you care nothing if an Iowa non starter gets injured. You believe a 1 in 20 shot is a realistic chance. Vegas loves people with your understanding and application of logic.

Hey, did you hear the one about Iowa had a chance to beat number one ranked Ohio State. All that needed to happen was for their number 3 ranked heavyweight and one of the Hawks top pinners to pin the number one ranked guy from Ohio State.

What happened you ask? They did not even try. Up until several years ago Ohio State had not beaten Iowa in wrestling in something like 40 years. Never ever during the Gable or Zelesky years had a Buck bettered a Hawk. Yet without whimper, nor whine of a "heeeeeeee's stttaaaaallllllllling" Hawk battle cry Brands did have his stud heavyweight bow and take a knee. Apparently acceptance of the Hawks place in the hierarchy is complete.

What say ye ole great and vodka drunk compliance officer?
 
You're calling me out for going back and forth on another team's forum? I said I'd stay away from here, and only returned after one of your own psu posters intentionally misquoted me at an attempt at mockery. You expect me to stay away, but posters here are going to mention me constantly while I am gone haha.

Let me get this right. Because I am not a PSU fan I am a troll? This is a post about Iowa and OSU.

If you don't like reading my posts mute me. I don't think it's a requirement to be a PSU fan to post on this forum. Or you could post 5 more times about how I type too much and shouldn't post here.
Dear vodka compliance officer,
Whatever you self described reason. You did promise to not come back until after nationals and you have repeatedly broken your promise.
So that we all understand. Not only delusional and looney you are, but opposite of honest too.
 
Im going to try to help you understand. I could go to the HR and post 3 or 4 topics that would get bites from HR poster. Hypocritical nature regarding PD3, holding Stoll out, Terry upstaging Clark at Nationals etc etc. Then because I believe im right I could type page after page defending my position. But I dont because its not my forum and its common courtesy to not destroy threads on another board. The simple answer is not me putting you on ignore but you going to PM to vigorously defend yourself. You are the visitor. Its not your house. Its common courtesy. This isnt hard to figure out. Opinions differ on boards. Type it but we dont need war and peace. Its common sense.

There is no such thing as PMs on Rivals unless I'm mistaken. I only posted here after being mentioned with a misquote attributed to my name.

Lastly, it's weird that you take issue with me responding to a guy who called me a delusional idiot multiple times after I stated the score in the Bowman Martin match was wrong. I post video evidence to show that the score is wrong. The guy doubles down and continues to call me a delusional idiot.

I've read numerous times on this board about people claiming HR is filled with delusional posters. There is one in this thread who still hasn't admitted he was wrong. Yet you are offended at me correcting him after being called a delusional idiot.

I said I would stay away from BWI after the last time a herd of posters cried about me posting here. I didn't post here for a month, until I was "invited" back by Nitlion's call.

I'm all for common courtesy. Go look at my post history here. 99% of my posts are responding to people who are spouting bs about Iowa or Brands Just like many PSU posters do on HR when PSU or Cael are unfairly criticized and rightfully so. It's not like I'm here making posts shitting on PSU.
 
You can private message someone to fulfill your need to be right. ?

I have no dog in this fight, i have had my own written tussles with Vodka. But, I do not believe pm is an option. I think you need to be a paid subscriber to do that, but honestly cannot find anywhere on the rival site that explains the benefits. I truly wish pm was a free option, like it was with the forum I used to frequent.
 
you guys are tough!... back on subject, a little... Is there an update on Stoll's injury? Did he re-injure his knee? I read where people actually had him walking as if he were hurt. Brands say anything?
 
Ok so you were at the match too and were sitting close enough to hear the exchange? I wish you would have said something because I was there and would have loved to have met you. You seem like a real stand up knowledgeable wrestling fan isn't a delusional homer. I'm sure you're right in that the Bopsy twins were completely ok with Myles getting 2 unearned points and just let it go because they didn't feel like arguing the point. C'mon, even you're not that dumb.. wait... nevermind.

To your point on Snorenson, Ok he was tied. My point was, you posted like the match was in control for him the whole time and he dominated. It wasn't. He is going to lose more than once before the end of the year and like it or not, will NOT be the favorite to make the finals. Feel free to call me out when he does. Until then shut up.

Now, I've asked you nicely to refrain from responding to my posts. Go back to your hole on HR where you belong so the grown ups can talk about wrestling. Bye Bye now, good day then.
Wrong.
 
Im going to try to help you understand. I could go to the HR and post 3 or 4 topics that would get bites from HR poster. Hypocritical nature regarding PD3, holding Stoll out, Terry upstaging Clark at Nationals etc etc. Then because I believe im right I could type page after page defending my position. But I dont because its not my forum and its common courtesy to not destroy threads on another board. The simple answer is not me putting you on ignore but you going to PM to vigorously defend yourself. You are the visitor. Its not your house. Its common courtesy. This isnt hard to figure out. Opinions differ on boards. Type it but we dont need war and peace. Its common sense.

How about this to help you understand. I could go on HR and make a post mocking you with a misquote to make you look like an idiot. Then if you come there and correct me for misquoting you, another poster tells you to go away and questions why you are posting there to begin with. hmmmm
 
but there is always next year.......next year is always a year away......we have a 3" binder.......we do things by the book......we don't recruit over our guys......we have a blast.....did I mention next year yet?........we develop guys instead of recruiting studs.......our coaches really really care about our guys (excluding Holloway).....next year......next year....next year......we do things the right way.....our guys need to lift.......our guys need to cut more weight......stalling!!......next year....
 
I have no dog in this fight, i have had my own written tussles with Vodka. But, I do not believe pm is an option. I think you need to be a paid subscriber to do that, but honestly cannot find anywhere on the rival site that explains the benefits. I truly wish pm was a free option, like it was with the forum I used to frequent.

Quite frankly I'd much rather discuss wrestling with people in real life over a beer rather than bitching back and forth about petty shit. Would solve a lot of problems.
 
How about this to help you understand. I could go on HR and make a post mocking you with a misquote to make you look like an idiot. Then if you come there and correct me for misquoting you, another poster tells you to go away and questions why you are posting there to begin with. hmmmm


No. I wouldnt care. As far as PM i have it but i pay so I may be wrong. Long story short I would not clog up other boards. Just like I didnt care when you think 5 percent is a realistic chance. I dont but Im not going to argue and clog a thread up over it. Not everyone is on here all day and when you have to read 10 pages of crap with back and forth nonsense, it sucks. Im not sure why you dont understand the concept of visiting and ruining threads for people? Im done discussing this with you. I have tried to state my point in an honest manner. If you continue to go back and forth with people i hope you are banned. Its just my opinion.
 
No. I wouldnt care. As far as PM i have it but i pay so I may be wrong. Long story short I would not clog up other boards. Just like I didnt care when you think 5 percent is a realistic chance. I dont but Im not going to argue and clog a thread up over it. Not everyone is on here all day and when you have to read 10 pages of crap with back and forth nonsense, it sucks. Im not sure why you dont understand the concept of visiting and ruining threads for people? Im done discussing this you. I have tried to state my point in an honest manner. If you continue to go back and forth with people i hope you are banned. Its just my opinion.

or ya know, just quit following the iowa vs osu pbp thread from 3 days ago. are you expecting breaking news in this thread?

Pretty funny I give an in depth pbp of the 149 and 184 lb matches and provide a video replay of the dual and you are upset at that post.
 
There is no such thing as PMs on Rivals unless I'm mistaken. I only posted here after being mentioned with a misquote attributed to my name.

Lastly, it's weird that you take issue with me responding to a guy who called me a delusional idiot multiple times after I stated the score in the Bowman Martin match was wrong. I post video evidence to show that the score is wrong. The guy doubles down and continues to call me a delusional idiot.

I've read numerous times on this board about people claiming HR is filled with delusional posters. There is one in this thread who still hasn't admitted he was wrong. Yet you are offended at me correcting him after being called a delusional idiot.

I said I would stay away from BWI after the last time a herd of posters cried about me posting here. I didn't post here for a month, until I was "invited" back by Nitlion's call.

I'm all for common courtesy. Go look at my post history here. 99% of my posts are responding to people who are spouting bs about Iowa or Brands Just like many PSU posters do on HR when PSU or Cael are unfairly criticized and rightfully so. It's not like I'm here making posts shitting on PSU.
I called you back? Making fun of you is not calling you back. Making fun of you is invited by your gibberish.
Misquoted. You insisted the Hawks had a realistic chance, which of course I made fun of. 1 in 20 (which is significantly higher than then the true chance) is not a realistic shot, it is a substantial long shot. Which of course I made fun of.
As far as misquoting. Taking liberty to poke fun of is as dunked said, ball busting. Of course you have rules for ball busting.

Next to last part of this post. 99% of your posts are to defend Brands or Hawk wrestlers? Yet you are on here posting because I hurt your feelings by taking liberty with your words.

Two sides, mouth speaking.

Spyker got ignored by me for being irritating, as did the 21 gun salute. The only other posters I have put on ignore are Sanduskites.
You and I are now wearing on some nerves and I have no desire to be put on ignore by posters on my home board.

You can elect to quit being a pain in the ass, or I will place you on ignore and one of the small group who does respond to your posts will simply stop seeing them. I will still make fun of you, remember there is a photo-album of priceless material, but there will be no retort.
 
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I called you back? Making fun of you is not calling you back. Making fun of you is invited by your gibberish.
Misquoted. You insisted the Hawks had a realistic chance, which of course I made fun of. 1 in 20 (which is significantly higher than then the true chance) is not a realistic shot, it is a substantial long shot. Which of course I made fun of.
As far as misquoting. Taking liberty to poke fun of is as dunked said, ball busting. Of course you have rules for ball busting.

Next to last part of this post. 99% of your posts are to defend Brands or Hawk wrestlers? Yet you are on here posting because I hurt your feelings by taking liberty with your words.

Two sides, mouth speaking.

Spyker got ignored by me for being irritating, as did the 21 gun salute. The only other posters I have put on ignore are Sanduskites.
You and I are now wearing on some nerves and I have no desire to be put on ignore by posters on my home board.

You can elect to quit being a pain in the ass, or I will place you on ignore and one of the small group who does respond to your posts will simply stop seeing them. I will still make fun of you, remember there is a photo-album of priceless material, but there will be no retort.

Still waiting for one direct quote with a post of mine that is delusional.


5% is too high of a chance? Hmm, Bowman had the cradle locked up. 5% chance that match could have resulted in a pin at that point right? That's a 10 point swing. They gave Martin a major (although as discussed he really only won by 7 pts). Kem could have majored. If Stoll goes he could keep it to major instead of tech possibly. I said all along I think OSU wins the dual, but it's clear there were avenues for Iowa to win and we saw that on Sunday. .

I wouldn't say intentionally misquoting someone to continue the narrative that that person is a delusional idiot is ball busting, it's being a douche.
 
Still waiting for one direct quote with a post of mine that is delusional.


5% is too high of a chance? Hmm, Bowman had the cradle locked up. 5% chance that match could have resulted in a pin at that point right? That's a 10 point swing. They gave Martin a major (although as discussed he really only won by 7 pts). Kem could have majored. If Stoll goes he could keep it to major instead of tech possibly. I said all along I think OSU wins the dual, but it's clear there were avenues for Iowa to win and we saw that on Sunday. .

I wouldn't say intentionally misquoting someone to continue the narrative that that person is a delusional idiot is ball busting, it's being a douche.

I dont have a post marking you as delusional but this back and forth could be argued as insane.......
 
Hey! Remember a poster named Khalim Khalim on a board? I suddenly thought of him. For some reason. :)

That must have been before my time here. Doesn't ring a bell lol
I think the quiet you hear from pawrest is him not finding any humor in you. Just a tiny annoyance that he finds easy to ignore.

You probably need to get over yourself just a bit. I mean come on now. You demand this, you site these internet rules. You state you care nothing if an Iowa non starter gets injured. You believe a 1 in 20 shot is a realistic chance. Vegas loves people with your understanding and application of logic.

Hey, did you hear the one about Iowa had a chance to beat number one ranked Ohio State. All that needed to happen was for their number 3 ranked heavyweight and one of the Hawks top pinners to pin the number one ranked guy from Ohio State.

What happened you ask? They did not even try. Up until several years ago Ohio State had not beaten Iowa in wrestling in something like 40 years. Never ever during the Gable or Zelesky years had a Buck bettered a Hawk. Yet without whimper, nor whine of a "heeeeeeee's stttaaaaallllllllling" Hawk battle cry Brands did have his stud heavyweight bow and take a knee. Apparently acceptance of the Hawks place in the hierarchy is complete.

What say ye ole great and vodka drunk compliance officer?

I actually put him on ignore because it's soooooooo hard to not reply. Also I have a job that involves me not posting on wrestling boards all day unfortunately (I would totally love to be paid to fight with Vodka but I can't). I ignored him this morning and don't plan on un-ignoring him anytime in the near future.
It's impossible to argue with ignorance and delusion and Vodka is 100 percent of both.
 
That must have been before my time here. Doesn't ring a bell lol


I actually put him on ignore because it's soooooooo hard to not reply. Also I have a job that involves me not posting on wrestling boards all day unfortunately (I would totally love to be paid to fight with Vodka but I can't). I ignored him this morning and don't plan on un-ignoring him anytime in the near future.
It's impossible to argue with ignorance and delusion and Vodka is 100 percent of both.

This dude just quadrupled down. Still in denial on the score in the Martin Bowman match even after being presented with video evidence and his ego is so fragile that he resorted to putting me on ignore rather than facing reality and facts.

Keeping this in mind next time I hear any of you say HR is delusional lol. If this guy was a hawk fan spouting this shit I would outcast him. Utter nonsense.

I may be an insistent mfer, but show me facts proving me wrong and I will change my stance and take responsibility for my fault.
 
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Is_there_vodka_in_heaven and pawrest01,
Hayes vs Sorenson match, I believe that neither dominated the match until the ride out to end the period by Sorenson. It appeared to me that Hayes strategically got Sorenson to wrestle his game plan which was to stay out of ties and shoot from space. Even when in ties, Sorenson didn't control them. I just don't think that Hayes executed it very well because when he was posting, he should've pushed Sorenson back and that didn't happen. Sorenson is clearly the 2nd best 149# behind Rutherford and I would be surprised if they didn't met in the finals.

See, this is how you debate on a wrestling board. I too thought the match was up in the air until the last 45 seconds. I appreciate your stance on Sorenson and you are not alone. I feel like he will be lucky to beat a couple of the younger guys in this weight (i.e. Deakin and Wick) and I understand I am the minority but I said this last year and it turned out to be true. Sorenson didn't make the finals of either tournament last year. This is my opinion and I stand by it if I'm wrong.

I just can't stand delusional rants from people so blinded by their homerism, they can't have an intelligent debate. To say Sorenson controlled that match is a true representation of the lack of Vodka's wrestling knowledge.
 
I often think you are an idiot for coming over to this board, especially when you promised not to do so, but I do agree with the part in bold. Either the ref lost complete control of the scoring in that match or he was confused on the reversal/no reversal call. You can see that he awarded the two as the shoe was coming off, but he did say “no reversal” several times after the delay.

I must be going crazy because I didn't hear no reversal once, neither at the meet in person nor in the replay that I just watched. Do you happen to remember the time stamp because now I think I'm losing my mind. I clearly saw him (in person and on the replay) tell Tom that he awarded the reversal and Tom rolls his eyes right before they restart.
I'm not calling you out or saying you're wrong, I just can't find where he reversed the initial decision.
Any info would be appreciated.
 
See, this is how you debate on a wrestling board. I too thought the match was up in the air until the last 45 seconds. I appreciate your stance on Sorenson and you are not alone. I feel like he will be lucky to beat a couple of the younger guys in this weight (i.e. Deakin and Wick) and I understand I am the minority but I said this last year and it turned out to be true. Sorenson didn't make the finals of either tournament last year. This is my opinion and I stand by it if I'm wrong.

I just can't stand delusional rants from people so blinded by their homerism, they can't have an intelligent debate. To say Sorenson controlled that match is a true representation of the lack of Vodka's wrestling knowledge.

Why do you think he’ll be lucky to beat Wick? I can understand Deakin but I think Wick is ranked 15-20 and doesn’t have any notable wins.
 
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