JWTT DAY 2 Sunday brackets are up

[dicemen99]

I'm right there with you on Nick Lee. He's gotten lost among all the recruits but I think he's gonna eventually be a fan favorite and one we expect to see as a threat to win the title. I watched a lot of video of him this weekend and he wrestles so much like Matt McDonough. Hell, he even looks like him and has the same build.

Not to put too high expectations on a recruit, but I think he is equivalent to ones that posters love to bandy about multiple national titles with. Which are projections that are best left to after they get in the room.

But suffice to say that although he may not be as heralded as a Mark Hall, I don't think there are many other kids in high school currently that are better prospects than him. I think he's right there with a kid like say, Fix. And not just saying it because of this past weekend - been saying it for a while.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I'm right there with you on Nick Lee. He's gotten lost among all the recruits but I think he's gonna eventually be a fan favorite and one we expect to see as a threat to win the title. I watched a lot of video of him this weekend and he wrestles so much like Matt McDonough. Hell, he even looks like him and has the same build.

Wrestles like McDonough (we can hope), and a haircut like Pennsylvania's own Johnny Unitas - that is some "old school" stuff fellas. I am down with that.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Not to put too high expectations on a recruit, but I think he is equivalent to ones that posters love to bandy about multiple national titles with. Which are projections that are best left to after they get in the room.

But suffice to say that although he may not be as heralded as a Mark Hall, I don't think there are many other kids in high school currently that are better prospects than him. I think he's right there with a kid like say, Fix. And not just saying it because of this past weekend - been saying it for a while.

Speaking of Fix, his recruitment is still open I see.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Not to put too high expectations on a recruit, but I think he is equivalent to ones that posters love to bandy about multiple national titles with. Which are projections that are best left to after they get in the room.

But suffice to say that although he may not be as heralded as a Mark Hall, I don't think there are many other kids in high school currently that are better prospects than him. I think he's right there with a kid like say, Fix. And not just saying it because of this past weekend - been saying it for a while.

Yes, I follow your posts and know you've been really high on him from the beginning. To be honest, that's partly the reason I took another look at him this weekend. And after doing so, I agree he's certainly one of the best recruits out there and I also agree he's not getting nearly the chatter that recruits like him usually generate.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Speaking of Fix, his recruitment is still open I see.

If Fix is open to schools other than OSU, being around all that NLWC success this past weekend and PSU stars and future stars certainly couldn't hurt.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Yes, I follow your posts and know you've been really high on him from the beginning. To be honest, that's partly the reason I took another look at him this weekend. And after doing so, I agree he's certainly one of the best recruits out there and I also agree he's not getting nearly the chatter that recruits like him usually generates.

I'm in the same boat - plus his brother comes with him and Joe is not shabby either.

 

[Flying_Tiger]

I think your hunch was right. He didn't know that it was Brandon and not Brian.

You certainly have a big mouth for someone that just started posting here in March. So are you calling me a liar?

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I'm right there with you on Nick Lee. He's gotten lost among all the recruits but I think he's gonna eventually be a fan favorite and one we expect to see as a threat to win the title. I watched a lot of video of him this weekend and he wrestles so much like Matt McDonough. Hell, he even looks like him and has the same build.

Here is the Lee family with their coach. Nick is to the far right.

 

[VRE]

Thought I saw Daton Fix in Mark Hall's corner when he wrestled Jason. Here's hoping that's a good omen for the future! Brain tells me little chance, though.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Wrestles like McDonough (we can hope), and a haircut like Pennsylvania's own Johnny Unitas - that is some "old school" stuff fellas. I am down with that.

Find a Lee match and watch it. Then find a McDonough match and you'll see what I'm talking about. Lol

 

[Flying_Tiger]

I assure you that I have no agenda and I was pretty surprised by your post considering I was referencing someone else's post that was a personal attack on someone's kid...just thought it was unnecessary.

Why would you be surprised when you posted right after me, mentioned a line from my post and failed to quote the post you were supposedly responding to. Maybe you should pay a little more attention when you want to start bitching about someone's post.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Find a Lee match and watch it. Then find a McDonough match and you'll see what I'm talking about. Lol

Yup - I was very impressed with his battle against Red. Yeah, he got ridden which won Red the match, but we have several guys who can teach him Pa mat skills. Didn't hurt that Joe immediately followed up with a quick pin to win his weight class.

Those 2, plus Carr (yes please) will hopefully help backfill 141-157 in a few years.

+ Michael Beard? Big Snacks? ...

 

[Mpchillin]

I think your hunch was right. He didn't know that it was Brandon and not Brian.

I didn't really have a hunch, I was more so just clarifying so the board would know that it wasn't PA's Courtney. I also believed him that he knew since he mentioned their close match in Cadets which Teasdale won 6-5 I believe. I do apologize to ft, there was no malicious intent on my part.

 

[Flying_Tiger]

I'm not calling out names but I'm pretty sure there are two members who've posted in this thread that frequent HR. If my suspicions are correct, I honestly feel that to remain in their good graces there, they use this board to prove they are not trolls and will call out their own when they feel the need. And if my suspicions are correct, I wonder why they feel the need to protect a Valencia or an Early here, yet they don't say shit when an HR bum accuses Retherford of using PEDs.

Oh there's no doubt we've been infiltrated over here. The down side of a winning program is it attracts fakes, freaks and trolls. This thread has all of the above. Since you got banned over there, I know you're one of the good guys, lol.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Oh there's no doubt we've been infiltrated over here. The down side of a winning program is it attracts fakes, freaks and trolls. This thread has all of the above. Since you got banned over there, I know you're one of the good guys, lol.

Lol. Damn it! You quoted me before I could delete my post. I figured it's not worth the hastle and I should keep my opinions to myself. Keep the peace in a way.... Lol

 

[johnstownsteel]

I didn't really have a hunch, I was more so just clarifying so the board would know that it wasn't PA's Courtney. I also believed him that he knew since he mentioned their close match in Cadets which Teasdale won 6-5 I believe. I do apologize to ft, there was no malicious intent on my part.

I'm actually glad you did because I assumed it was the Courtney from PA. Lol

 

[Mpchillin]

I'm actually glad you did because I assumed it was the Courtney from PA. Lol

I did the same thing when Mejia wrestled Brian, I assumed it was Brandon.

 

[Mpchillin]

I feel kind of queasy, f-t liked a post of mine and 21guns called me amigo today.

 

[Flying_Tiger]

Here is the match I was thinking of: http://www.flowrestling.org/video/7...urtney-arizona-vs-gavin-teasdale-pennsylvania Sadly I was interested in following Teasdale thinking he was PSU bound at the time It was a really good match. Apparently Teasdale beat him easily yesterday.

 

[tikk10]

No idea how Courtney is crushing it in both Arizona and Pennsylvania, never mind the commute, but we could really use a kid with moxie like that.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Oh there's no doubt we've been infiltrated over here. The down side of a winning program is it attracts fakes, freaks and trolls. This thread has all of the above. Since you got banned over there, I know you're one of the good guys, lol.

As long as we don't attract the dreaded KhalimKhalim here!

Oops. By writing his name, did I release him from his underwater dungeon to wreak havoc on Penn State wrestling boards again?

 

[El-Jefe]

As long as we don't attract the dreaded KhalimKhalim here!

Oops. By writing his name, did I release him from his underwater dungeon to wreak havoc on Penn State wrestling boards again?

Like I apparently just did with Jammen?

 

[WildTurk]

Teasdale is one tough Sophomore. Can't wait to watch him bloom. Very savvy for a youngster

 

[Flying_Tiger]

Bite your tongue Chickenman, he had to be one of the most persistent trolls in history. How many incarnations were there, at least 4 or 5.

 

[Mpchillin]

Teasdale is one tough Sophomore. Can't wait to watch him bloom. Very savvy for a youngster

Turk, you can't say that here, everybody here KNOWS he won't bloom at Iowa.

 

[El-Jefe]

Teasdale is one tough Sophomore. Can't wait to watch him at Bloom. Very savvy for a youngster

Fixed it for you.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Thought I saw Daton Fix in Mark Hall's corner when he wrestled Jason. Here's hoping that's a good omen for the future! Brain tells me little chance, though.

Brain's telling me the same thing but I don't think it's a lock he's OSU bound. I know his dad went there, he's an Oklahoma kid, so why not just commit and be done with it already? If he's a lock, I honestly feel he would have done just that. It's not like he'd have to hear all year from the instate crowd for choosing the "wrong" college because to many of them... It's the "right" college. To his dad, it's probably the "right" college. So why wait? I think it's because there's a college or two hitting him hard and heavy and he just might go somewhere other than the expected.

If I saw him more of a career 125 I'd care more than I do. Don't get me wrong, love to have him no matter what but if he's a 133 or 141, the need I don't think is quite as strong with Suriano and Lee in the fold. Of course maybe Suriano is a career 125. I don't see it but maybe he is. Or maybe Lee is a future 149. In that case, Fix might slot in perfectly.

 

[caliPSUfan]

Oh there's no doubt we've been infiltrated over here. The down side of a winning program is it attracts fakes, freaks and trolls. This thread has all of the above. Since you got banned over there, I know you're one of the good guys, lol.

Honestly not sure if I'm being called a troll here or not...looks like I am. I should probably stop replying but I'll post on it once more to try and at least clear my internet name.

I've been posting for a couple years now (longer on FOS) and I think I remain positive on all fronts...I have two boys of my own and it kind of got to me when someone called somebody else's kid out like that. I didn't dive into every post on this thread and perhaps I spoke out of turn.

Sincerely, I'm sorry to have offended anyone - it's really not my style.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Honestly not sure if I'm being called a troll here or not...looks like I am. I should probably stop replying but I'll post on it once more to try and at least clear my internet name.

I've been posting for a couple years now (longer on FOS) and I think I remain positive on all fronts...I have two boys of my own and it kind of got to me when someone called somebody else's kid out like that. I didn't dive into every post on this thread and perhaps I spoke out of turn.

Sincerely, I'm sorry to have offended anyone - it's really not my style.

Ok... Let's fight nice boys! Lol. To change the subject I got a neat story. Ok... Neat because my life is rather pathetic and the little things excite me. Anyway, I was driving through Ebensburg today and got stopped at a red light headed towards Altoona. Looked over and driving the car next to me was Jimmy Gulibon. Just surprised me being that it was so far from State College.

Yes... I'm sad...I know.. Lol

 

[21Guns]

Ok... Let's fight nice boys! Lol. To change the subject I got a neat story. Ok... Neat because my life is rather pathetic and the little things excite me. Anyway, I was driving through Ebensburg today and got stopped at a red light headed towards Altoona. Looked over and driving the car next to me was Jimmy Gulibon. Just surprised me being that it was so far from State College.

Yes... I'm sad...I know.. Lol

Jimmy!

Cool story actually, haha.

 

[Needanap]

Ok... Let's fight nice boys! Lol. To change the subject I got a neat story. Ok... Neat because my life is rather pathetic and the little things excite me. Anyway, I was driving through Ebensburg today and got stopped at a red light headed towards Altoona. Looked over and driving the car next to me was Jimmy Gulibon. Just surprised me being that it was so far from State College.

Yes... I'm sad...I know.. Lol

JTS -- Gulibon is from Derry, PA, which is probably less than 25 miles West of you on Rte 22. If you hang out at the same light long enough you are likely to get a peak at Nico as well.

 

[jschrantz]

Honestly not sure if I'm being called a troll here or not...looks like I am. I should probably stop replying but I'll post on it once more to try and at least clear my internet name.

I've been posting for a couple years now (longer on FOS) and I think I remain positive on all fronts...I have two boys of my own and it kind of got to me when someone called somebody else's kid out like that. I didn't dive into every post on this thread and perhaps I spoke out of turn.

Sincerely, I'm sorry to have offended anyone - it's really not my style.

Me either, sorry you caught such hard feelings over a reply not meant for you.

 

[johnstownsteel]

JTS -- Gulibon is from Derry, PA, which is probably less than 25 miles West of you on Rte 22. If you hang out at the same light long enough you are likely to get a peak at Nico as well.

As pathetic as my life is, I might do just that... Lol

 

[caliPSUfan]

Just oversensitive sometimes I guess…my bad

 

[jschrantz]

Just oversensitive sometimes I guess…my bad

I also could have avoided teasing right after the event, I'm better than that. I guess I was over sensitive at Papa breaking down/analyzing our own guys just after somebody else got beat. Our guys are kids too.

 

[dicemen99]

Teasdale is one tough Sophomore. Can't wait to watch him bloom. Very savvy for a youngster

Although this is technically correct, it is a pet peeve of mine when people use a wrestlers grade class for praise when he is not age appropriate for the grade. Teasdale is within a few months of Spencer and on average older than 75 percent of the athletes in 11th grade. It is more accurate to say he is a great wrestler and savvy for a 17 and a half year old.

Before you Iowa posters say I'm only saying this because he committed to Iowa (and I'm sure there will be some PA posters that don't like this opinion as well), you're wrong. Šame applies to Mark Hall. He should be a freshman in college. And the cases are very similar as both hold backs were done to win more state titles. No other reason.

And they are still both great wrestlers. Just inaccurate to use the label "high school kid" or "sophomore" to heap more praise on them.

Again, just a pet peeve of mine. There have been a few really elite guys from my area who went out and competed at 90lbs freshman year with no shot to win a title. One was 85, didnt even make it to states and still ended up with multiple state titles and a D1 scholarship. Come to think of it, so did the others.

And i might be mild. There is one guy on our local forum who has adamantly refused to post Teasdales name for the past two years in posts because he states he won't do anything to publicize the kid. And others also. It's evolved into a joke of sorts "he who will not be named. " Now he is a bit over the top lol.

Summer birthday and you delay kindergarten or hold back early, OK. Repeat a grade because you are switching to an academically challenging school (i.e. private), OK. Repeating in 7th or 8th because you want 6 instead of 5, or 4 instead of 3 state titles, or 3 instead of 2 - I just don't understand it.

 

[WildTurk]

Although this is technically correct, it is a pet peeve of mine when people use a wrestlers grade class for praise when he is not age appropriate for the grade. Teasdale is within a few months of Spencer and on average older than 75 percent of the athletes in 11th grade. It is more accurate to say he is a great wrestler and savvy for a 17 and a half year old.

Before you Iowa posters say I'm only saying this because he committed to Iowa (and I'm sure there will be some PA posters that don't like this opinion as well), you're wrong. Šame applies to Mark Hall. He should be a freshman in college. And the cases are very similar as both hold backs were done to win more state titles. No other reason.

And they are still both great wrestlers. Just inaccurate to use the label "high school kid" or "sophomore" to heap more praise on them.

Again, just a pet peeve of mine. There have been a few really elite guys from my area who went out and competed at 90lbs freshman year with no shot to win a title. One was 85, didnt even make it to states and still ended up with multiple state titles and a D1 scholarship. Come to think of it, so did the others.

And i might be mild. There is one guy on our local forum who has adamantly refused to post Teasdales name for the past two years in posts because he states he won't do anything to publicize the kid. And others also. It's evolved into a joke of sorts "he who will not be named. " Now he is a bit over the top lol.

Summer birthday and you delay kindergarten or hold back early, OK. Repeat a grade because you are switching to an academically challenging school (i.e. private), OK. Repeating in 7th or 8th because you want 6 instead of 5, or 4 instead of 3 state titles, or 3 instead of 2 - I just don't understand it.

Ok he's the age of Junior. Gotcha. Did JPWduh3RD hijack your account?

 

[El-Jefe]

To use DOD Security Clearance lingo: I don't have a Need to Know a high school wrestler's age.

If I refer to a grade and not an age, it's because one of them is public and the other is none of my business.

Might be different if I were a coach or a tournament organizer, but I'm not.

 

[CowboyUp61]

Although this is technically correct, it is a pet peeve of mine when people use a wrestlers grade class for praise when he is not age appropriate for the grade. Teasdale is within a few months of Spencer and on average older than 75 percent of the athletes in 11th grade. It is more accurate to say he is a great wrestler and savvy for a 17 and a half year old.

Before you Iowa posters say I'm only saying this because he committed to Iowa (and I'm sure there will be some PA posters that don't like this opinion as well), you're wrong. Šame applies to Mark Hall. He should be a freshman in college. And the cases are very similar as both hold backs were done to win more state titles. No other reason.

And they are still both great wrestlers. Just inaccurate to use the label "high school kid" or "sophomore" to heap more praise on them.

Again, just a pet peeve of mine. There have been a few really elite guys from my area who went out and competed at 90lbs freshman year with no shot to win a title. One was 85, didnt even make it to states and still ended up with multiple state titles and a D1 scholarship. Come to think of it, so did the others.

And i might be mild. There is one guy on our local forum who has adamantly refused to post Teasdales name for the past two years in posts because he states he won't do anything to publicize the kid. And others also. It's evolved into a joke of sorts "he who will not be named. " Now he is a bit over the top lol.

Summer birthday and you delay kindergarten or hold back early, OK. Repeat a grade because you are switching to an academically challenging school (i.e. private), OK. Repeating in 7th or 8th because you want 6 instead of 5, or 4 instead of 3 state titles, or 3 instead of 2 - I just don't understand it.

Not being from PA, can someone fill me in on what the high school age cutoff is in Pa? When I was in school in KS, if you were 19 before Jan 1st you were ineligible after that date.

 

[dicemen99]

Can't be 20 before June 30th following graduation.

Jefe - understand your position, don't necessarily agree with it, but will concede that everyone has the right to do what they wish with their own kid and I'm not going to say what's right or wrong - only that I don't understand the thinking.

But my point is not so much about the kids, but more so the modifier used to many to embellish accomplishiments. Their accomplishments stand alone no matter what grade they are in. Pico was phenomonal 9th grade, beating Heil in the Ironman finals, winning a CA state title, etc. People couldn't get over how great he was as a FRESHMAN. They still would have been great accomplishments had he been the Junior he would have been if he started kindergarten in my son's school district age appropriately. In Hall's case - he won six state titles, tying a national record. Of course if he had not repeated 7th, he only wins 5. Teasdale most likely doesn't win states as an 85lb freshman, but should now end up a 4-timer (fairly rarified air for a PA wrestler), something Thomas Haines did as an upperweight dealing with mostly Jrs & Srs without being held back AND actually being young for his grade.

As far as PA rules, you could actually be held back twice if you are a late summer birthday and still be eligible to compete as a senior. So, it's legal, but again - don't understand the thinking. None of these kids are "borderline" scholarship athletes.