I think ND and Stanford are almost a done deal. I think FSU eventually gets in if they are willing to wait GT too but I'm thinking unless something changes in NC all in that state might be SEC bound. I think the thing that would help us with UNC would be the SEC refusing to take NCS because the Big would take UNC and NCS as a package deal just to get UNC I'm not sure the SEC would but a deal with the SEC for UNC and Duke is probably acceptable to the SEC. Currently it's a freaking soap opera.
Even sPitt has a chance if things don't go well for the Big 10 in the southeast of ACC land.
You certainly could be right but it's fun to speculate when not much is happening until camp starts.
You’re saying that anonymous posters on a message board are not reputable? 😀 I do think there is enough chatter out there that there is some validity that things are happening behind the scenes with the teo lawsuits. And revenue sharing will be here in the next few years, so there is major motivation for ACC powers to find a way into the P2 sooner than later. But I agree there is a process here that requires time. If we don’t get an announcement by the mid August deadline for 2025, then there likely won’t be any movement until next summer at the earliest.
Thanks for posting, interesting speculation from those guys. Louisville is a natural fit, and in my opinion Pitt would be as well with wvu and Cincy in the region. I see miami as big 10 all the way.
Nothing happens until Yormark breaks it loose (FSU/Clemson get looose) like he did in the PAC then the SEC and the Big will rush in to try and get those teams most valuable to them. A wish list is a wish list it is not necessarily a get list. This will probably not shake out to every fan liking or the Big 10's liking for that matter. But they will go after their top 2 in ND and UNC first then it just depends on how the cookie crumbles.
The Big 12 is about to get 1.2 Billion from Allstate when the ink is dry. They will be able to compete. No stated timeframe as of yet but I would guess sometime this year.
What would happen if FSU, for example, left for a new conference and said I want $0 compensation for their TV rights? They could go the SMU route and have alumni, or possible PE, make up the difference. That would really screw the ACC.
Yeah there's lots of stuff out there today that FSU isn't wanted by either the SEC or Big 10 and that they are viewed as a conference disruptor based on how they are going after the ACC, and an article quoting a few anonymous university presidents saying FSU is making mistakes and their only path to those 2 conferences right now is if the ACC completely dissolves. Who knows what's true.
People have to quit focusing on the immediate situations when it comes to inviting a university also Presidents consider many things when inviting a university. It's never been all about football with those guys. They are not inviting football teams they are inviting universities they get sports teams when they invite universities, is that a consideration yes but football is just one thing they look at. MD is trying to be and I think will be helpful in luring VA to the Big. MD has an ongoing relationship with VA. The Big ten has always had relationships with VA GT and Stanford and that counts along with other things like AAU Research Endowments overall financial health etc. The real money to the conference is Research and Endowments not necessarily football.
It seems FSU has other work to do before the Big will get interested like AAU and some other things in the research area. The Big Ten hates instability even the appearance of it. FSU haS pretty much everything else in line. But some of the presidents seem to be scared off because of FSU's willingness to be disruptive when they don't get their own way. Those presidents like everything to be in a box with pretty wrapping and a bow on it. They like everyone singing Kumbaya at least as far as public consumption goes. Plus, it seems they had Petitti put the brakes on 3rd party conversations for now until someone breaks out of the ACC. They probably already have most of the info they would need to have 1st party talks when the time comes.
Yeah, I have seen enough new info to conclude that this speculation is just that, speculation. And FSU may just have to make nice with the ACC or take the alternative of independent status or Big 12, and both options are not ideal.
Listen FSU has work to do relative to what the presidents want in a university. It would appear because of some issues FSU is well down the list and I have been told that Clemson isn't even on it. Recently some things have been clarified where the president's interests are. People/fans can try and make expansion for the Big 10 all about money but it simply isn't.
So, where does that leave Clemson? Do they have a lifeline to the SEC or is the B12 their backup plan?
ESPN has been chumming the waters with half-truths and pure Bullshit for a while. They have their own AX to grind.
Before I allowed some people to change my mind, I always believed FSU Clemson and Miami were Big 12 bound assuming the ACC implodes, but then I went with the so-called conventional wisdom/hype. I've now gone full circle.
I think we are going to see something totally different. NIL and the Portal are sea changes to college sports. Few teams are going to be able to keep up and be competitive in big-time football. So I think we are going to see a super football league of something like 48 teams. Other teams can play into or out of the league like using relegation. The bottom four teams drop out and the best four teams of the lower division can step up.
Can't disagree.
