Bingo! I don’t need 1+3 for a reversal, but I damn well want 3 (same as TD) because of the escape inherent in the transfer of control. Cheapening the reversal is as unfair as calling non-existent roughing penalties favoring the almighty flopping Mahomes, not calling offsides on a missed Texan field goal, and letting Tay Tay’s leashed boy toy taunt without consequence. Excuse the venting from a guy with a joke NFL team. Honestly not trying to derail the thread.
I would love for Saquon to put up 2 bills against KC and that Oline to ground them to dust in a win. Hopefully my prayers are heard.Bingo! I don’t need 1+3 for a reversal, but I damn well want 3 (same as TD) because of the escape inherent in the transfer of control. Cheapening the reversal is as unfair as calling non-existent roughing penalties favoring the almighty flopping Mahomes, not calling offsides on a missed Texan field goal, and letting Tay Tay’s leashed boy toy taunt without consequence. Excuse the venting from a guy with a joke NFL team. Honestly not trying to derail the thread.
Cheapening the reversal is as unfair as calling non-existent roughing penalties favoring the almighty flopping Mahomes, not calling offsides on a missed Texan field goal, and letting Tay Tay’s leashed boy toy taunt without consequence. Excuse the venting from a guy with a joke NFL team. Honestly not trying to derail the thread.
Dad, is that you?
If anything, riding time should be changed to it only accumulates after a wrestler gets a takedown or reversal. You should have to earn the right to get riding time.
Earn it with swipes.
Actually, both of these simultaneously would be a big upgrade, I think. Give the wrestler the ability to get up to 3 points for riding time, but only if you earn the advantage (and the time stops for the rest of your advantage if you get a stalling call). Encourage action, both on the feet and on the mat.
Once upon a time, wrestlers could be awarded up to two points in riding time for two minutes of control.
Riding time points discourage scoring attempts on the mat. They encourage Tony Nelson-style acting busy.
Calling what Nelson did "acting busy" is being very generous. My wife yells get up and give me a hand and I reply "I will in a minute, but I am busy right now" as I finish typing a reply on the PSU wrestling page. That is more acting busy than anything Nelson ever did from the top position.
And be prepared for a lot more of it, if riding time ever gets expanded.
You conveniently forgot to add that she immediately rag dolled you as soon as you finished typing!!
Regarding Bartlett's match, the official's initial verbal count to four was because Hardy was locked onto Beau's leg, which started the "drop down" count. When the official got to four he called the reversal, holding up two fingers. The official then maybe (it was hard to tell from the video and audio) got to a one count for near fall before Hardy bellied out enough to break the near fall criteria.
I agree you know get riding time if you get at least two spies for turning them you wod have guys working on top. If you don't get two swipes on top in a minute the guy on bottom goes neutral
If for no other reason, there were several 'was that a reversal or an escape then a takedown' moments during the Nebby match. That's a difference of 4 pts or only 2. No bueno IMO. Reversal definitely needs to go to three pointsBingo! I don’t need 1+3 for a reversal, but I damn well want 3 (same as TD) because of the escape inherent in the transfer of control. Cheapening the reversal is as unfair as calling non-existent roughing penalties favoring the almighty flopping Mahomes, not calling offsides on a missed Texan field goal, and letting Tay Tay’s leashed boy toy taunt without consequence. Excuse the venting from a guy with a joke NFL team. Honestly not trying to derail the thread.
I do think that the premise of the sport is to put your opponent on his back. To much of the college aspect is just holding your opponent down and not working for a turn. Your comment about multi points for riding time is maybe a little extreme. But it made me think of maybe a change to riding time scoring.
^^^This...
Always been weird to get a “technical fall” when you didn’t actually get back points in a match. That rule change was a bit perplexing to me. Get back points to earn 5.
Still an incentive to do nothing on top -- multiple times.
At least the bottom guy gets a chance to avoid the non action beat down that is just boring to watch.
Akin to taking advantage of a drunk cripple.
“IronTurd” or @Ironturd ?
Davis’s lateral drop was just dumb, but I’ll cut more slack to someone being aggressive and dumb than not doing anything at all.
a ref did the same thing in another match I was watching,whats going on they can't remember to start at 1 again?once they stop the count they have to restart!!
hard to move a guy that lying flat no even trying to escape I think bottom stalls more than top Zain sr yr he was mugging this kid doing all he could do to score more and the ref called stalling on Zain,what a joke
3) he should be fine. Van Zee is at risk of losing to anyone the second time around. He’s much better at H2H1. The more interesting thing is Davis himself. He just needs patience and correct calculation at the same time. He had loads of time to come back and went big. He has flashed the impatience before (last year, not this year)….but he also showed resolve in this match. I feel like last years Davis would have gone down hard after Van Zee’s first point flurry but he didn’t. He kept working. It was the second points by Van Zee that changed his approach, unfortunately. Seems like he’s growing at least some.
