https://iawrestle.com/2020/01/18/i-felt-like-we-were-flat-brands-recaps-nebraska-dual/
Were they flat or is what we saw what they are?
I vote for the latter.
Were they flat or is what we saw what they are?
I vote for the latter.
Nebraska vs Iowa
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Iowa does have a few guys over ranked right now and I absolutely agree Pat Lugo is not winning a national championship. That being said, even when you project guys like him and Murin to a more reasonable placement, they still have a huge gap in projected points. Losing Cassar this year was a real killer. At this point, I think Iowa would have to lose one of their top guys to injury for PSU to have a real chance.
Since LP isn't around, how was that?
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Well keep this guy.Hawk fan that sat in the 3rd row
Not happy.
DeSantos offense almost non existent
Murin got outclassed and shows no footwork or general offensive gameplan
Lugo and Young struggled with R16 type guys
Bull won ok but alot too do with White Gassing
Kem again looked physically weak for a 174lbs'er
Assad yay
Hats off too Eric Schultz but Warner sucked
Get this out of your system.... My theory that Brands brother and Morningstar not being good enough offensive stategists was in form tonight
Tonight left a window for Penn State
Funny moment last night when Warner lost. After the the ref raised his hand the kid from Nebraska looked over to Iowa bench and pretend to wave a towel to mock what Iowa coaches were doing throughout the match. You could here a a couple of boos.
But Talented, Coach Snyder is widely regarded as one of the top assistants in the nation
If I'm sending out my 125lbr against Lee, the game plan is to get into the 3rd period. Under no circumstances engage lee in the first, call it stalling but whatever, ya got to give yourself chance. Keeping the match close as possible even if you give up some stalling points...drag Spencer into deep water, that's how you beat him.
As you can tell by my Avitar name,my pet peeve is stalling.
Watching the match last night, the ref was not making top wrestler work for a pin. That's his job, and by calling a stall on top would create more action for the fans.
I very seldom complain about stalling on the guy on bottom. If the kid is outclassed on bottom what is he supposed to do.
The other stall I like to see called takes place more in high school.When neither kid engages or attempts any offense from their feet, bang them both. The ref has to try to create action.
Watching the match last night, the ref was not making top wrestler work for a pin. That's his job, and by calling a stall on top would create more action for the fans.
I very seldom complain about stalling on the guy on bottom. If the kid is outclassed on bottom what is he supposed to do.
The other stall I like to see called takes place more in high school.When neither kid engages or attempts any offense from their feet, bang them both. The ref has to try to create action.
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Flat, flat, flat. Exactly what I was thinking last night while watching. The energy and attack that was on display vs. Purdue just wasn't there last night, and it was not because of the opponent. At first, I just thought DeSanto was ill. And that Red was just really on top of his game. But by the time we got to 165 and Marinelli was succumbing to a blast double, I had to think something was up physically and/or psychologically with the team. When you see 80% of the lineup suddenly looking different from the previous week, it's clearly something related to fatigue.
Lest anyone get too excited about Iowa showing vulnerability in a mid-January dual . . . that, too, is a strategy taken straight from the 3-inch binder. Give your opponents false hope going into March.
So my question to everyone is, "Which team can play that game better down the stretch?"
After watching the match last night I came to one major conclusion. I am so happy we have Cael, Cody, Casey and Jake as our coaches. During the matches I found the coaches antics more entertaining then the actual matches.
That’s why they wrestle. No one thought Penn State would win in 2011 either According to the rankings.
Just like his father in high school when Easton was loaded. A lot of locals thought that team benefited more from Snyder than Head Coach Powell.
I think their former 103 from some of those years posts on here and could give insight
I, for one, think Iowa is a really good team, and I’m not as sure now as I was several months ago that we can fill our holes in the too near future.
Does the former 103 pounder have permission to post or does he need court injunction.I think their former 103 from some of those years posts on here and could give insight
The difference this year seems to me to be the multiple champion locks for a single team. This year there are a lot of coulds and maybes. The projected Champs are more spread around this year that makes an underperformer or overperformer more likely to have an effect on the team title.
Iowa does have a few guys over ranked right now and I absolutely agree Pat Lugo is not winning a national championship. That being said, even when you project guys like him and Murin to a more reasonable placement, they still have a huge gap in projected points. Losing Cassar this year was a real killer. At this point, I think Iowa would have to lose one of there top guys to injury for PSU to have a real chance.
Since LP isn't around, how was that?
That works. Well done.
So you are saying its in Iowas best interest to lose one of those duals? Or both? Or what? Because according to you the worst thing they could do is win them both... what a weird position.
He's just hedging his bets. This way, he is right no matter the outcome:
Iowa wins both duals = they are peaking in January and will fade come NCAA's
Iowa loses one(or both) = they are obviously overrated
Pretty clever if you ask me(which you didn't).
Not sure what others are doing in this board, but I’ll be the last one off the ship here, PSU has more winners in their line up, maybe Iowa sneaks in for the title with the lite Olympic year. I have confidence in this year and the next for a team title.
I agree I'm not so sure we can't pull it out with our coaches being superior. And next year we are going to be tough out and right there for a title.
All I can say is Hawks according to rankings look ok but that don't score points. I still fear Penn State, u get healthy and will be right in the battle. The champion is still the champion until someone comes and removes them something I have always said and I do believe..Hawks have a good chance but can not afford to not go out and perform to their rankings all I can say..We will know in about a little over 2 months more about this ..
If history has any value then I say the boys in Blue and White.
I like where our team is now, I think there is more pressure on Iowa. We saw this with Ohio State.
I like where our team is now, I think there is more pressure on Iowa. We saw this with Ohio State.
.....So my question to everyone is, "Which team can play that game better down the stretch?"
I'm curious if anyone has even watched Marinelli wrestle this year? Have you seen what he has done to people so far? White did absolutely nothing but keep from get his nose shoved up Marinelli's arse.
I didn't know stalling was judged on how a guy has wrestled so far or what he's done to people. So he can "bank" wrestling with the refs and earn credit towards stall rides? Nick Lee must have a huge account.
You are 100% correct - outside of the two matches they lost, really no others were all that much in question. Yes, they were close but in Desanto's case, Nebraska wrestled to keep it a match, not to win. White did everything he could to just not get flattened. It's hard to be impressive when your opponent takes few chances.
Did you watch the match? Do you think White did anything other than to try and not get flattened? When someone wrestles Nick Lee and fights to not get turned, is Lee stalling? At least try to show some level of objectivity. It's not like White isn't an AA caliber opponent. If he doesn't want to get turned the likelihood is he won't.
Yes, watched the match. Maybe stalling,maybe not. Do I have to "at least try to show some level of objectivity" to understand what watching him this year and what he's done to people so far has to do with this match? Just saying those points don't mean anything when someone says he may have been stalling.
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I don't think it was a "stall" ride at all. White showed little or no interest in getting out.I would compare what White did similar to a freestyle match when they flatten out and do anything they can to not get exposed. Plus, White is pretty talented.
Please. Marinelli put his weight up and on White and pressured everything forward. It was the perfect example of a ride to ride. To argue White was just trying to not flatten out, no kidding.
Marinelli wasn't called for a top stall, but if he had been it would not have been and incorrect call.
Considering the Iowa fanbase would shrill about Zain's top stalling, even when scoring top points, I would think that same fanbase would argue Marinelli probably should have been stalled multiple times.
It's hard to speak for a whole fan base. I would say that most of us acknowledge that on paper, right now, Iowa has a significant projected lead. But, we also know how well our guys get ready for NCAA's and a lot of things can happen in a tournament like that, and we're not throwing in the towel! Objectivity requires us to grant Iowa's advantage, but we have a lot of confidence in our guys and our coaches! If Iowa wins, good for them. Our world wouldn't fall apart if we don't win a title. We love the way our guys wrestle, how they handle themselves on and off the mat and we'll be cheering hard win or lose. There's a lot of wrestling to be done!
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Yes, he's in PA wrestling HOF
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