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Penn State v. Indiana Dual Thread (2/5/23)

And some might say it was Carter who started the crap before the match.

Either way, it’s crap that someone started, and more crap ensued. It was two-sided crap.

Crap.
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The time to do something about it is the entire 7 minutes on the mat.
I guess Washington didn’t see it that way. Again, I have no problem with what Carter posted because he backed it up. But you think no other competitors would take issue with this? I would say the majority of kids this age would have something to say after the match.
 
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I guess Washington didn’t see it that way. Again, I have no problem with what Carter posted because he backed it up. But you think no other competitors would take issue with this? I would say the majority of kids this age would have something to say after the match.
Well, I’m not assuming Washington’s beef at the closing whistle was entirely because of the pre-match Twitter crap. Seems like he thought something unnecessary happened at the end there.
 
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Well, I’m not assuming Washington’s beef at the closing whistle was entirely because of the pre-match Twitter crap. Seems like he thought something unnecessary happened at the end there.
Agreed. We’ve seen plenty of examples in all sports where opponents react negatively after someone talks shit. I don’t think Carter cared that Washington came after him either. Some on here seem surprised that he did.
 
If I was a fan of another school I’d want 10 Carter Staroccis on my team.

However, as a Penn State fan I am fortunate enough to root for a variety of personalities like RBY, Brooks, Kerk, Levi and others.

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I guess Washington didn’t see it that way. Again, I have no problem with what Carter posted because he backed it up. But you think no other competitors would take issue with this? I would say the majority of kids this age would have something to say after the match.
I would expect any individual with an ounce of competitiveness to have an issue with Carter's tweets. I would expect that competitive individual to then put forth maybe an even more focused and intense effort than normal. At the end of the competition I would expect the slighted competitor to respond different ways depending on the final result. If Washington had won with a determined effort I would expect some chirping. If with the same determined effort Washington had either lost a tight, hotly contested match or got his ass whooped I would expect both to shake hands and acknowledge their mutual respect for each other. If Washington wrestled the 2nd half of the match like it was just too damn hard and that led to him getting his ass kicked, STFU, shake hands and get off the mat.

No matter what I would expect from the other kid I am with JTsteel on this one. If I am Cael I explain to Carter that no matter what I have your back and I will always be standing right there next to you. However, if I have to come onto the mat like that again we will need to have one of "THOSE" conversations.
 
What I'm hearing is likely a bunch of old, white, men telling the young gun how he should or should not behave, including just shut your mouth, act like you've been there before and "stay off the twitter".

Well, fellas, it's a new day and Twitter exists. Carter chose to talk smack on it, as some do, and he backed it up with a major decision. Washington wrestled a nice first period and then gassed and stalled his butt off to the point where it was simply ridiculous and a competent official would have stalled him out. In short, he had the opportunity to shut Carter up, on the mat, but he was incapable of doing so. Then, failing at that, he decided to act all tough and start some crap, after the whistle.

That's the long and short of it. Glad Carter is on my team and proud of his work ethic, drive, intensity and success. Don't change a bit, Carter. Not one bit.

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Just my opinion but this shit took place three years ago in Carter's freshman year or something to that effect. Who cares I'm wondering why Carter was so amped up years later. I think it was what was mentioned above where he wanted to hype himself up for a match
 
I was at the match and didn’t see anything that would warrant a fisticuffs provoked by a severely beaten Washington. I had someone with me who doesn’t follow wrestling regularly and they said they saw nothing from Carter either.
 
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What I'm hearing is likely a bunch of old, white, men telling the young gun how he should or should not behave, including just shut your mouth, act like you've been there before and "stay off the twitter".

Well, fellas, it's a new day and Twitter exists. Carter chose to talk smack on it, as some do, and he backed it up with a major decision. Washington wrestled a nice first period and then gassed and stalled his butt off to the point where it was simply ridiculous and a competent official would have stalled him out. In short, he had the opportunity to shut Carter up, on the mat, but he was incapable of doing so. Then, failing at that, he decided to act all tough and start some crap, after the whistle.

That's the long and short of it. Glad Carter is on my team and proud of his work ethic, drive, intensity and success. Don't change a bit, Carter. Not one bit.

WE ARE!!!
I’m not going to back and read thru it all, but I thought I read a lot of defending Washington for being upset and virtually no one saying Carter should stay off social media.

There’s a huge difference.
 
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When the whistle blew, it was Washington who got up in Carter's face and started all the activity after the match. You only need to watch it to see that. You're simply wrong.
I'm guessing @Hoosier Lion was at the match today so I wouldn't be so sure he was wrong. Small gym. If he was there he's probably the most credible poster on the board about today's events.
 
I’m not going to back and read thru it all, but I thought I read a lot of defending Washington for being upset and virtually no one saying Carter shouldn’t have posted on social media.

There’s a huge difference.
Re-watch it. Carter shoved DJ’s head into the mat 2x after the whistle. The ref scolded him then. After the match he did it again. DJ responded at that point. Casey followed Carter into the locker room angrily and when he came out Cael went in visibly pissed. It was all Carter being a punk. I was embarrassed for PSU. The whole program is nothing but class but that guy.
 
Re-watch it. Carter shoved DJ’s head into the mat 2x after the whistle. The ref scolded him then. After the match he did it again. DJ responded at that point. Casey followed Carter into the locker room angrily and when he came out Cael went in visibly pissed. It was all Carter being a punk. I was embarrassed for PSU. The whole program is nothing but class but that guy.
Im not disputing anything you’re saying (except the last three words; I believe people sometimes just mess up.). To the contrary, I’ve been waiting for you to tell us what happened.
 
Re-watch it. Carter shoved DJ’s head into the mat 2x after the whistle. The ref scolded him then. After the match he did it again. DJ responded at that point. Casey followed Carter into the locker room angrily and when he came out Cael went in visibly pissed. It was all Carter being a punk. I was embarrassed for PSU. The whole program is nothing but class but that guy.
So Nolf never pushed anybody’s head down or grabbed anybody’s ankles in referees position to agitate them. OK then.
 
I thought the ref said something to Carter right before the end of the match, that I interpreted as a warning.
Where is the replay?
 
Carter’s social media post started the whole thing. I’m fine with talking shit if you can back it up. Which he did. But don’t get mad when the person you call out gets upset about it.

It doesn't give him the right to get in Carter's face after he embarrasses himself by standing out of bounds and refusing to wrestle for the entire 3rd Period. Utterly ridiculous that the Ref didn't stall him out of the match. But of course, you're here claiming Carter should allow some loser beatch to get in his face - go pound salt troll.
 
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