Penn State v. Indiana Dual Thread (2/5/23)
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Agree. He doesn’t want to have an honest debate about anything and by throwing that bull spit out there, he’s hoping you back off.
Pathetic.
Drama is silly and imo you shouldn’t contribute to it either way .
You are so much better when you take the Giffy route. I really don't want to have to call in another Hawk poster to replace you Madden. I like you... lol
He seems easy to attack because his arguments are never informed and rarely based on salient or factual underpinning.
But, in fact, it's difficult. Twain is credited with a couple of great quotes on the subject:
"Never argue with fools. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
You just proved my point.
Now get your ass out there and be what we need you to be!
Interesting contrast.
You're okay with Carter's boorish behavior, but the reason you're rooting for Warner is that "he's always been a very classy guy".
As are most wrestling fans. This is such bullshit, when did white men become such bad guys! Didn’t we build the American Dream?
I was hoping I could slip that last one by you.😇
^^^^^^ Can always count on this mope for the race talk. Dude's obsessed ^^^^^
You know what bothered me the most about the whole thing today? Seeing our Coach out there having to help break things up. It just felt so beneath the GOAT to me. I know it seems like a holier than thou opinion but Cael ALWAYS seems like he is in complete control of his environment and his athletes and its always done so effortlessly....like his boys dont want to disappoint him. The appearance of it all just didn't jive with the culture Cael has built within his program.
Well if it's any consolation consider what it took to get it there: The most controversial tweet by a wrestler with a history of them, followed by the other wrestler practically stalling himself out, followed by a thorough beat down, followed by a bizarre reaction by the same wrestler who basically tapped out of the same match that he suddenly was interested in again after getting hammered for 7 minutes....
That's not likely to happen again in that sequence, regardless of the opponent, now that it's resulted in the mess that we just saw.
Cael will handle it and Carter will behave better, but don't expect the ghost of Andy Matter to take over the twitter account either.
Ghost? Last I heard, Andy is still alive and well.
Totally agree with your take JTS. I hope that Aaron Brooks has a heart to heart talk with CStar. The way Aaron handled the end of his match at Nationals with Amine, when Amine was frustrated, is how it's done. Total class act when he could have chirped on Aaron's part.
I’m with you 100%
Could it be Carter took out his angst towards Arnold on Downtown Darnell? DJ didnt even respond to Carters tweet(s) though,did he? Hopefully the coaches reel this in, there isnt a place for it in NCAA.this wasnt quite as bad as Desanto’s kimura but still doesnt belong here.
I dont like the tweets, I dont like the shit-talk, and I dont like the dirty tactics. He went too far today.
Just wrestle.
I think he should be put on Read Only for 1 week.
Sorry Mr editor. Please get the abridged version out before deadline...Jesus Christ who cares you get the point
On the other hand, I think Jesus passed away awhile back
If Carter tones down the rhetoric it will, to me, say a lot about how Cael felt about the situation. I'm expecting Carter to tone it down going forward.
Some more backstory from the Collegian:
“According to Starocci, the rivalry between the two was more sparked by Washington’s actions after the match rather than the loss itself. Starocci said that Washington would “give [him] the stare down” at wrestling tournaments following Washington’s 10-9 decision.”
It’s all starting to make sense.
“According to Starocci, the rivalry between the two was more sparked by Washington’s actions after the match rather than the loss itself. Starocci said that Washington would “give [him] the stare down” at wrestling tournaments following Washington’s 10-9 decision.”
It’s all starting to make sense.
See...Jesus Christ would just shrug that $hit off...
Here's an article on the topic - weird the Twitter feed they link on the bottom to close out the article has a diametric opposite take to the know-it-alls on here - go figure. And the video included with the Twitter post in support of his comments doesn't support the know-it-alls claims in any way - go figure. HERE'S THE LINK.
Are they teenage girls? It’s a combat sport ffs. Settle it on the mat.
I thought that's what just happened? Did I miss something? Does the match no longer count? Should we add this to the "Yianni wasn't trying" category?
I'm surprised I'm agreeing with you ever, but you are spot on here. I've mentioned a few times that I've competed and coached at this level and would have never done that or accepted that from one of my wrestlers. I appreciate Penn State and love the way they approach the sport and carry themselves. This was a big, big exception. The social media is tough but tolerable with today's kids. This isn't.
I just watched the replay and I see Washington getting up and getting in Carters face after the match. That's what I see.
Maybe not the wisest choice to wade into such a hot topic as race, but I view this Board like family, and lots of topics get discussed around the family dinner table that wouldn't be discussed elsewhere. I feel as a society we would be served much better by leaving race out of conversations that are not race related and especially not use someone's white race as a general put down. For instance, how come all "Karens" are white? It just seems like a way to disparage someone in large part because of their race (and obviously along with their entitled attitudes) without actually mentioning race. And why are all grumpy old men always white? : ) Imagine inserting a minority race instead of the word white. It doesn't sound too pleasant. And yes, I am an oldish (soon to be 59) white guy, but hopefully people won't pre-judge me because of my race and I will always do my best to judge a person by their character and not the color of their skin. Please also understand that even though my comments on this topic are brief, I am not unaware of the concepts of intersectionality, oppressed vs. oppressor/privileged, Liberation theology, etc. I just believe that not injecting race into an otherwise non-racial discussion would be helpful. I also don't mean to insinuate that this thread was over-the-top in this area. It just got me thinking about the topic. Thanks, Gaylon
Here's the Twitter that was linked to bottom of article - video included demonstrates that Washington clearly initiates the altercation directly after the whistle. Video also demonstrates that Washington keeps jawing and has to be taken off the mat by his coach as he continues to jaw, point and threaten which is positively hysterical given what a wuss he acted like while the match was being contested.
If they were getting chippy at each other prior , then after , then silliness ensues it doesn’t sound like it was over now, does it?
Because it obviously wasn’t over.
Exactly - I just linked a video demonstrating the same thing. Not only that, but Washington has to be physically pushed off the mat by his Coach while he continues his jawwing, pointing and threats directed at Carter (who is doing nothing but leaving the mat - and Cael never says a word to him). The video looks nothing like what the Iowa trolls and their board sympathizer know-it-alls claim. Go figure.
Washington initiated the altercation - ridiculous to claim a social-media posts justifies his actions on the mat. Utterly ridiculous.
Lol you all still talking about Cstar and Washington and I’m over here thinking about Beau Bartlett coming out that aggressive with a cradle and Levi Haines is the real deal. Paddy Gallagher had a big win over Trevor Chumbley today and Levi absolutely smoked Paddy on Friday. SVN and Facundo wrestled great as well and consistently got to their leg attacks.
Season is going great.
Season is going great.
Lol such a great post. We are so used to winning we dont even talk about it. Young guns performed well today.
When i think grumpy old men, i think of those hilarious guys in , Coming to America, in the barber shop. Oh, and Clint Eastwood. So both movies.
In real life, Im kind to people and they are usually kind to me.
