PSU - Northwestern Dual Thread
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Not much of a dropoff, but certainly there was some. As I said, it was to be expected and not concerning in the least.
Diggerpup - can I infer that you're volunteering to be my training dummy to demonstrate my recommended technique?
Cenzo seemed to be smiling and goofing around and running freely - not the demeanor of a kid with a troublesome injury.
Maybe they want to give his knee (which doesn't seem to be troubling him too much) extra rest.
Not being an internet tough guy just responded to your suggestion...sounded like you might be interested. Actually, your posts have always seemed good-thought you were a little on the offensive with your initial comments in response to my observation of match.
For the record, I am tough don't need a computer to be tough...just saying.
For the record, I am tough don't need a computer to be tough...just saying.
Can someone help me to understand the Nolf ruling? I get that they awarded the NW wrestler a TD, but that whole sequence should have netted Jason some points as well. If Jason didn't get the TD, then he got a reversal. Instead of being in the down position, he should have been on top with a 2-point lead.
Thought the same. Plus thought he had another reversal plus back points but I need to watch the match again - if available. I think Nolf does some things that refs aren't catching in time because they're so unconventional.
And I think that Nolf is so unpredictable that he creates hesitation in his opponent's mind. The opponent might mentally question whether he is making the right move at any given time.
I loved to watch David Taylor wrestle, and I think that David, more than anyone else, was instrumental in attracting many fans to the sport. But Jason Nolf.......I really look forward to his matches even more than I did David's.
If I remember the sequence, Jason did a Standing Gramby and came out the backdoor for the TD. Not sure why they awarded a TD for the NW wrestler - the only thing I can think is that they ruled the NW wrestler was still behind Jason with his hands locked when Jason "posted" on his hand to initiate the Granby Roll. In any event, not sure why they wouldn't have awarded Jason the reversal even if they gave the NW wrestler a TD when Jason initiated the Granby - he clearly should have been given at least a reversal.
Thank you. I'm not the most knowledgeable, but I don't understand why they would have rewound the clock and put the NW wrestler on top.
I wonder if that is a review rule if you have to overturn a decision by the ref. But I think I've seen instances where a ruling might be changed and the clock isn't rewound.
Until you've taken a punch to the jaw (like I'm about to) from PD2, I'll pause and reserve judgement here....
As I understand the ruling, the takedown was awarded as soon as Jason touched the mat, and before the roll. Don't agree with the call, but haven't seen it slowed down.
What happens when a review is won, they go back to the exact second of the event...and re-start from there. Time was added to the clock, and Jason was placed on bottom. It's as if nothing after it happened.
I rewatched this several times. I couldn't see where he ever had any control when Jason hit the mat. Looked to me like he dove right under him without touching the mat until he was already on his opponents ankles.
I never thought there was control either. Looked almost identical to his finals match at Keystone.
Crappy post. Every little tweak doesn't end with surgery, and a kid with a dream crushed for the year.
its not that bad. hell read 1 paragraph and get bored with you.
Yeah, sometimes I think the refs lose track as well. Sure do need to be on top of your game officiating his matches. And that's the easy part. Couldn't imagining trying to wrestle him.
Agree, it appeared to me that Jason broke any "control" the NW wrestler had when he initiated the Standing Gramby - I'm not even sure Jason posted a hand on the roll, he may have flipped directly to his shoulders and then immediately popped out the back-door. Would have to look at it in really slow motion, but seems like a really marginal call unless the NW wrestler has clear control behind Jason when Jason posts a hand on the Gramby.....again, I'm not even sure Jason went to a hand when initiating the Gramby.
Also would love to see Jason do the "Standing Gramby to Peterson" in that postion sometimes (I've seen him do the Standing Gramby multiple times):
that's funny... imagine if they could trade places.... I'll take the hwt and you can have Nolf... (hwt is only meant to be chosen based on avg hwt matches). After a Nolf match they probably think they really earned their pay day and per diem!
If you say so. Like I said, I really didn't see a tangible drop off. I mean, PSU won the eight contested bouts by a score of 33-3. Not everyone is gonna be perfect every match.
Actually (and with due respect), Lemon has a point about Cortez. In fact, your response sort of reinforced it.
I imagine they sat Cenzo to give him a week off to heal and you all have the depth there to do it...also to reward guys in the room by throwing them a bone against a NW team. Wouldn't start making up ghost stories just yet
Basically the assumption is this: If a review changes something, it goes back to that moment as Roar describes. With a change in hand, the wrestlers conceivably could make different decisions from that point since the situation has changed. Or might have taken a different course in the action if the change had been called correctly in the first place.
Dunke... I'm of the thinking that Jimmy's switch... had a dimmer. Seems like the switch has been turned in the opposite direction. Much to the delight of all of us. Who doesn't like to see one more scoring machine added to the other scientific calculator scoring machines already on the team? Jimmy always has had it within himself... he just needed to deactivate the dimmer switch.
I thought I heard Ironhead say the regular 165 lber was out and this was their backup 157. If that was the case, Cael may have decided to give Cenzo a rest and reward Caleb for 4.5 years of dedication to the team.
Correct. 165 was one of the 3 weights where the starter failed the skin test.
During the radio interview after the match Caleb told the story of his walking on to the team. He was told he was the worst wrestler they had ever seen, but they let him stay because of his attitude. Good to see that rewarded.
I heard that interview. It was great. And, what a positive endorsement for the program as a whole.
Usually a staph infection. I don't think there is an MD there but any trainer can identify it.
Except that in the interview, Caleb says that the whole thing was set in motion 24 hours earlier, when coaches texted him to ask how his weight was. Maybe the final decision wasn't made until weigh-ins, but the thought was already there much earlier.
I believe Ironhead also said PSU heard about this skin condition situation on Saturday, not at weigh-ins. My guess is the coach called Cael.
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