You remind me of mkilvanick.... lol..
You agreed that it is called inconsistently. That's enough for me.
Refs Strike Again at Michigan
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You remind me of mkilvanick.... lol..
You agreed that it is called inconsistently. That's enough for me.
Show the evidence supporting your assertion.
Or, continue to be Lando and just keep restating your position without supporting it.
He was not definitely offsides, it is not "no doubt" and that is where you are wrong and you know it. I am simply stating that. I am not saying Minny was going to win or the refs always screw Penn State or I am complaining about past Michigan or Ohio State games. What is ridiculous is you think every call is 100% correct and no debate. A ref never makes a mistake in your little world. This was not clear and therefore not necessarily the correct call. There is doubt. Just because you desperately want it to be 100% the correct call and no doubt doesn't make it that way. Maybe Minny scores a TD if they get the ball, you never know....
Lando, if you can look at the history and record of our league over the last 30 years and not see a pattern of bias in officiating, then you're living in la-la land.
That's not to say that the bias has been pronounced in every game...and many times it doesn't seem to be present at all...but there've been more than enough instances to justify the conclusion that it's a thing.
In fairness, we did get one break: in our shocking win over Ohio State in 2016 when an obvious pass interference against a Buckeye receiver on a deep route late in the game was not called. Don't know what got into the zebras in that moment.
Also, one reason I see this pattern so clearly is that it worked in our favor before we made the accursed decision to join the Big-10. In fact, in Eastern football, we were the equivalent of Ohio State and Michigan...and were treated that way by the refs.
At the end of the day, it's a lot nicer to be the beneficiary of the screw-job than the victim. I've seen it happen both ways...and feel no guilt in preferring to be in the former position.
You are complaining about the past "refs strike again" when you are acknowledging he may have bee offside
I don’t care if the call was correct or not. I won my bet and didn't care who won the game but the call was correct and didn't determine who won.
Maybe they would have scored but maybe they shouldn't have been "possibly" offside since you can't just say he was.
And there's the problem...prior to joining the Big Ten our fan base was used to getting calls...now it doesn't always go our way and that's hard for some to accept
Calls are going to be missed. The only calls I believe should ever be complained about are the ones that are reviewed and still incorrect. The game is too fast for them to be perfect live
This Lando thinks the thread is "ridiculous" yet here he is chiming in to get his last word in. On his high horse wanting to be the attention grabbing contrarian that he loves being. Why are you commenting if it is ridiculous? Just go away. You will never convince me it was a "no doubt" the "correct call".
Of course I'm going to discuss it. All the good games are tonight lol
It's not about attention...its about this ridiculous notion that the refs gave Michigan a win AGAIN today.
The ref knew or should gave known that this was an unreviewable call. Knowing it was unreviewable provided him ideal cover.
The ref did not "give" cheatagan a win. He prevented the gophers the opportunity to win. Big difference.
How is that different than a conspiracy?
You're saying the league is fixing games for them
Wait--so there used to be another poster that didn't just blindly say Michigan and Ohio State didn't deserve any credit and didn't pretend we were perfect? That probably did bother you
Conspiracies are conducted in secrecy. This is blatent by some biased officials, not done by the league, although league officials should be embarrassed.
So, the officials got together without the Big Ten involvement and decided they want to help Michigan and Ohio State but not us...
Or us too--just not when we play those two?
Just remember these officials have regular jobs like you and me just remember the could be bitchy or just plain tired from all week job
It is unlikely that there is any conspiracy to maintain the "big 2" in the B1G. It would be bad for the conference. In the many years I have followed OSU, I have seen many disputed calls go both ways. One helped them win a natty in 2002 and one more recently may have cost them one. That's football. Expanding the conference and scrapping the old weak west division will change things. I don't see UM and OSU being any big 2 going forward. There is now too much competition. The best thing that could happen to the conference is for a PSU or Illinois win the NC.
I was not the one who brought the conspiracy idea. I suggest there are/were some biased officials in the b2g that on occasion demonstate their bias. Today's bad call was either due to bias or incompetence.
I will entertain those times when calls benefited PSU while playing mich or osu. Got some examples?
You forgot Avant being out of bounds and the extra 2 seconds in 2005. I'm still pissed. LOL!
they only had a replay from an angle, no camera from straight across the field...if you have a brain, you understand that whether or not it was the correct call, it was called by the guy standing right on the line of scrimmage, and that there was no available replay other than from an angle...refs have been terrible in most game's i've watched..but if you'd like to see where they blew calls on UM today, the ball that was "caught" right before the half...looked like it wasn't caught and they didn't even review it, minny gets a cheap 3 points..bogus call on graham late in the game that kept an eventual scoring drive alive...obvious penalty for ripping off tj guy's helmet, no call...see, we can go tit for tat all day, stop whining....especially about a game your team isn't playing in, lol... 🤡
That's what you call getting Referined at the Big House. Minni was screwed and there's no doubt about it. It was a bullshitting call and the guy that called it knew it was a bullshit call.
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If a hand beyond the line is offsides, then they were offsides. No "feet" or bodies were beyond the line when the ball left the tee
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