I'm not clueless at all--you're all so desperate to believe things are rigged for Michigan you're complaining about this still
Refs Strike Again at Michigan
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Pereira said he couldn't make the determination based on the replay angles that were showed. At no point did he say "the refs got it wrong". I don't believe he's ever said anything close to that even when they do.
Again, the official had the best view--his call is clearly correct--people just hate Michigan. If Minnesota was called offside against us for this you'd all be saying they got it right.
So you don't have his quote, just what you hoped he said. Stop making up crap and putting it in quotes Do some research, look it up, what exactly did he say?
"I don't think he's offside. ... I don't think he's breaking the plane," Pereira said. The play is not reviewable.
That sounds like he didn’t think it was a penalty either. I guess Lando is going to die on this hill bless his little heart.
That sounds like he didn’t think it was a penalty either. I guess Lando is going to die on this hill bless his little heart.
The question is will mando admit that he is on an island by himself on this one. Appears he moved on.
How's this for comical - here is a link to an article written by FOX:
https://www.fox9.com/sports/was-offside-penalty-gophers-onside-kick-michigan-right-call
Here is a quote directly from the FOX Article:
But HandoCammando will keep lecturing us how right he is - the guy is such a typical b1g homer MeatChicken jagoff, it isn't even funny anymore. Just a complete a-hole douchebag.
I disagree.Every single thread. You guys need a hobby that prevents you from replying to every single comment that disagrees with you. You make the board an insufferable place for everyone else.
LOL... You are locked into a stupid premise.
People REALLY just hate blatantly bad calls.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/big-ten-commissioner-gophers-onside-kick-michigan/
Credit to @CJFisJoePaII
"During the FOX broadcast of Saturdays' game, Rules Analyst Mike Pereira said he didn't think Kingsbury was offsides. The play was not reviewable and could not be challenged."
LOL! They do a "rule change" after an obviously horrible call to save Michigan. Like maybe that will distract everyone from what the real issue is.
Not to say Minnesota would have scored, but the zebras weren't taking any chances.
This is not "rigging." It's ingrained bias plus a subconscious awareness of what the conference needs to preserve the sanctity of the Big-2 and potential big-time playoff profits.
Just amazing how often these "mistakes" work in one direction. Pure coincidence I'm sure.
They can make all the rule changes they want. The question is not whether some version of this will happen again but rather when and against whom.
I didn't "lose"--"the Big Ten did not directly say the call was wrong"
The call was correct and they're altering the rule because they didn't like how it was correctly called.
Right--you again still think the refs were helping Michigan--they weren't. The call was correct
Has the Big Ten said the call was wrong? Yes or no?
Good Lord, this troll is a worse shill than Baghdad Bob.
Yes, the Big Ten said the call was wrong. And so are you.
You can make it all about Michigan as much as you like. The focus is the call. You've seen pictures. You've seen expert opinion, and now you've seen that the Big Ten is going to change rules because if it.
As previously explained to you, 2 + 2 does not equal 6. Move on.
"Didn't like how it was correctly called". When you are in a hole you keep digging it deeper. If it was correctly called they would would say nothing. You should do likewise.
You funny, and wrong.
They didn't say the quote was wrong "the Big Ten did not directly say the call was wrong"
They changed the rule so that the correct call can be made. Logicallly that means the official was wrong.
You really don't know how politicians, in this case the b1g commissioners, correct the mistakes of their underlings.
They changed the rule because the while it was called correctly they didn't like how it was called--it's that simple
If it was called incorrectly they wouldn't need to change the rule
Lando, your above evasion is pathetic. As has been documented in this thread, every neutral observer in the world...and some who are not so neutral...have said either directly or indirectly that the call was wrong. The videotape leaves no doubt. At this point, the only people who believe otherwise are brainwashed Michigan fans...and you
I get why brainwashed Michigan fans would cling to their delusions. What's your excuse? I mean, seriously, why are you trying so hard to harpoon your credibility and prove your long-time detractors right? Why the insistence on defending Michigan's already forfeited honor? I mean, for once would it hurt so badly to just admit being wrong?
The have yet to say the call was wrong nor does video indicate it's wrong?
This has nothing to do with Michigan but about our fan base that complains about literally everything.
Simple question--did they say the call was wrong? No--we all know it
When I'm actually wrong I own it--not when they alter a rule because an offside was correctly called and it caused outrage so the modified it to calm down the masses.
I get it. It was a correct call so lets change the rule to demonstrate the idiocy of our officials.
Have you ever heard the expression, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Your argument makes me wonder who is the most feeble minded the conference or you. I can excuse the official to some extent, he is just incompetent.
How is changing the rule demonstrating their stupidity? They called it correctly
The league realizes now that's not their intent (like many rules that get changed) so they're altering it.
You're inability to comprehend the argument makes me wonder why you're so desperate to believe the league is fixing things for Michigan and Ohio State.
They called it correctly but the conference did not like how it was called? How was the official supposed to call it?
BTW: are you really saying it is not the conference's intent to call games correctly. Your word salads are extraordinary. Also, stupidity is your word. There is a difference between stupidity and ignorance. Look it up.
Correct--they called it per the letter of rule hence that's why the changed it
Why do you think "they changed the rule"???? Explain why you'd change a rule if it was called incorrectly. There would be nothing to change--they just missed a call.
You need to comprehend those words--it's what you do when you're losing arguments. I'm the one saying the intent is to call it correctly. You're saying they intentionally don't to help certain teams because you can't accept other teams may be better than us without needing help.
Yeah, they effing did say it was wrong.
First, they changed the rule so that, in the future, folks will be in position to NOT get the call wrong. Second, the coordinator of Big Ten officiating said it was the wrong call ("too tight to flag" = should not have been flagged = someone who flagged it made the wrong call).
Whether or not people are wrong for alleging conspiracies or biases is a different matter entirely than whether or not this particular call was correct. And it wasn't correct. And you've presented absolutely NOTHING to show it was correct. Because you can't. Because it was wrong.
Again, they didn't say the ruling was wrong. Do you need the quote again?
The altered the rule because it was called correctly and it wasn't the intent. This isn't difficult for a sane, unbiased person to follow
They, and you, are wrong for that and this call was correct hence the rule change.
The rule change LITERALLY proves the call was correct--otherwise there's nothing to change
Common Sense 101
I know all of your worst nightmare is when I'm right--which happened again--like it almost always does
Common Sense 101
I know all of your worst nightmare is when I'm right--which happened again--like it almost always does
Lando is an idiot who will spin anything to try to prove himself correct when he is 100% wrong - yeah the big10 is changing the way they review and call these because they got it RIGHT? How stupid can you be? Keep digging landy man - your hole is about 100 feet deep. Can’t wait for your standard - I’m right and your wrong stupid line.
If they didn't get it right they wouldn't need to change the rule...if you can't understand that....
You are so freaking wrong man. What a joke you are. Just digging your heels in and getting shellacked because you are not man enough to admit you have a piss poor bs take on this. You are so dead wrong on this take and you know it. Unbelievably dumb, dumb, dumb!!! At this point the only thing you can hang onto is you have faith the official made the right call otherwise why would he call it.
You've said a lot of dumb things ... this might be the dumbest thing you've said.
Did you even bother to read what the rule change was? It wasn't a substantive change to the rule to adjust what is considered offside, or something similar ... it was to move one of the officiating crew so now 2 officials have a view of the offside/onside determination so they don't screw it up in the future, LIKE THEY SCREWED IT UP HERE. It's the biggest red flag that they DID get it wrong. They literally saw the outcome of how they currently set up the officials ... said "well, that was wrong, we need to get another guy in there to stop that from happening again." And you're claiming that means they got it right.
Holy heck.
If the rule was changed in some way like they added "the head being over the line is not offsides on a kickoff" ... THEN you might have a point that the rule was properly applied here, but they didn't like the rule anymore, so they changed it. But they didn't do that. They did the opposite ... they said the rule is fine, we just need to fix these officials' placement so they can apply it correctly next time.
Oh, and the coordinating official of the conference, who reviewed it, said it was a bad call.
But, other than that, you nailed it.
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