Between my wife and I, we've known lots of people who have gotten it, including 5 who have died (it's a biased sample, though, because my wife is an oncology nurse, so she knows far more high risk people than most). At least dozens have said it's the worst illness they've ever had, and I have a friend who is a triathlete who has competed in the Iron Man who ran the Atlanta marathon last March right before the shutdown and got it right at the start of the pandemic and STILL can't run 3 miles without having to stop from exhaustion, so it's definitely not a hoax or a fraud (of course, there are also plenty of people we know who said it was like a cold or just lost their taste and smell for a couple days, too).
Rutgers dual postp-- ... take it the Covid Thread people
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Let's stick to the team and Rutgers dual ...
Otherwise the Dumpster Fire thread exists for a reason. And that reason is to have only one dumpster fire.
Otherwise the Dumpster Fire thread exists for a reason. And that reason is to have only one dumpster fire.
Regarding COVID parties, has anyone seen any articles about athletes who have gotten COVID and how they’ve fared athletically afterward?
I ask because I just read a doctor say that post-COVID lungs are usually bad, with many worse than the worst smoker’s lungs.
If it were my kid, I would recommend waiting for the vaccine rather than attending a COVID party.
I ask because I just read a doctor say that post-COVID lungs are usually bad, with many worse than the worst smoker’s lungs.
If it were my kid, I would recommend waiting for the vaccine rather than attending a COVID party.
Mention “Covid Party“ to most college age kids and they only hear “Party”.
Not much info from the transparancy-challenged Big Ten, which could help fans understand what happens next re. the Rutgers vs PSU dual, and the duals for the next couple of weekends. I understand it is conference rules that must be followed, and not NCAA guidelines, though the NCAA does define the personnel tiers, transmission risks (by sport) and minimum testing frequency.
MD wrestles RU on 2/19 and PSU on 2/21. Maybe they can rework that weekend into a tri-meet, as a last resort?
That is another good idea. PSU also wrestles Ohio State on Friday that weekend. I didn't know if you were allowed to wrestle a regular dual and a tri in the same weekend. It seems simple enough to do but I am sure there are crazy rules that I am not aware of to reduce contacts. I actually like your idea the best if it is allowed.
And I thought I was going to get some action this weekend...
...Guess not.
...Guess not.
If the "blind squirrel" reference is an indication that you think Askren finally came up with a good idea, I assure you this wasn't it. So many things can go wrong (athlete gets very sick; athlete passes it on to a family member or friend who gets very sick or dies; athletes display horrific long-term effects 5 years down the road; etc.) that a decision to intentionally introduce the virus to a group of athletes would be incredibly stupid.
i just meant that it would have "worked" to avoid this sort of situation. let me be very clear in saying that covid parties are an absolute crap idea, all things considered.
I say that instead of having a lockdown, we let everyone who is not afraid of the virus to mingle and get it for a month, while the people who consider themselves as high risk can go into some form of quarantine. Any takers?
J'den Cox had a pretty bad case and looked fine in his two matches this week, but J'den might not be the model to base anything on. The other athlete that had it that comes to mind is Kamara for the Saints. He came back for the bears game, but was used sparingly despite the bears missing Roquan Smith, one of the few guys in the league capable of covering him. I wonder if the Saints didn't want to push it or something.
COVID is different in every individual. Don’t panic, this will pass. The protocol is a lot like the NFL. Better to have an outbreak now than later.
THIS^^^ John hit it on the head.. the majority of kids their age and certainly with their fitness will have mild symptoms.. vast majority.. and will recover and then have at least some immunity to re-infection.. We are seeing 3 months period post infection where the thought is an individual is unlikely to contract it again.. beyond that we don't have enough data.. Get it out of the way now so they are good to go as the season progresses..
You know what's even better? Don't get it at all.
No, don't listen to Askren! There is a vaccine. Wait and do precautions until its their turn. Cael would never jeopardize his team and staff to a potentially deadly situation on purpose. This is nuts even to suggest it.
The thing is, I think this is here to stay, the vaccine may lessen the symptoms but much like the flu, I bet this thing mutates frequently and everyone will eventually contact it.
Im no doctor but I did stay at Bordo’s cottage last night.
I’ll pay for that window Dave
Does someone need to post the video of Asschin getting KTFO in the cage?
You don't seem to understand how vaccines work.
I’m also no doctor, but here is what I’ve heard.
No wear condom = regular kid.
Wear condom = lessened kid; only 4’10” fully grown.
Do you have a citation for what you mean by “will recover”? Do you for example mean (among other things) 100% full previous lung capacity for the vast majority of young adults? I have read that nowhere.
Well I DO know that my front line school employee wife was told that she would still have to wear facemask, social distance, wash hands etc etc even AFTER she gets vaccine. Odd, but that sounds exactly how she’s been living the past 9 months.
That’s a great idea as long as the brave warriors do not use society’s doctors or nurses or hospitals or welfare checks.
Strangely none of these things seem to have happened to any of the 1000 of college football players who tested positive this fall
“horrific long term effects 5 years down the road”?
I don’t think having COVId parties is a great idea, but this counter argument is way over the top
COVID gratuitous dumpster fire thread
For all those spreaders who infect wrestling threads: here is your opportunity to practice social media distancing. If you're not willing to wear a muzzle, er mask, then do your part to keep everyone else healthy. Preemptive:
bwi.forums.rivals.com
Do you have a citation? How do you know none of those things has happened?
Statistically, it seems highly unlikely that 1000 positives would not infect at least one person who gets very sick.
WHO scientists have gone to Wuhan and traced the above post as “patient 0” who started the dumpster fire in this thread instead of in the dumpster fire thread.
I contributed to the counter fire, but what’s a person to do when there is already bad fire? Good fire!
(Not really. I’ve gotta redirect instead of using the good fire. Thank you @ss7!)
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It's not odd at all. You can be infectious without being sick. Until everyone ("herd immunity") has the vaccine, we need to not spread it around. It's all about taking care of *others*, not just worrying about ourselves.
Agree fully, I was either unclear, or you mistook my stance.
Regardless, Do you think we will have to get new vaccines every year (like flu) as this has already mutated once.
It's not strange that there were very few strong reactions to the virus among college football players. These are young, healthy men. The question is whether any program would intentionally cause its roster to be subjected to the virus for the sake of "getting it over with" and proceeding with their season. The risk, however small, that a player would have a serious negative reaction (or pass the virus to a more-susceptible family member) necessitates not going that route.
As for the long-term concerns, I don't know what your question is. No less an authority than the Mayo Clinic has acknowledged the risk.
"The virus can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems."
Long COVID questions and answers
COVID-19 can have lasting symptoms that affect many parts of the body. Learn more about the symptoms and effects of long COVID.
www.mayoclinic.org
If you want to dismiss that risk as inconsequential, that's up to you. I obviously cannot prove or disprove what may or may not happen in the future. My point is simply that universities don't have the same luxury you do. They cannot ignore such risks.
To be fair, this thread is about a match that was canceled. Is there anything on topic to talk about?COVID gratuitous dumpster fire thread
For all those spreaders who infect wrestling threads: here is your opportunity to practice social media distancing. If you're not willing to wear a muzzle, er mask, then do your part to keep everyone else healthy. Preemptive:
As a shout out to @STAND with PRIDE , this will be me at 2:30 tomorrow afternoon.
I think that sums up the gist of this thread.
As a shout out to @STAND with PRIDE , this will be me at 2:30 tomorrow afternoon.
I think that sums up the gist of this thread.
I didn't know you were a lefty!
So honest question - is this shot truly a vaccine? To me a vaccine is a once and done shot, maybe with an occasional booster. If we need to get this shot every year, than it's more in line with the flu shot and not something like the smallpox vaccine (which I'm not sure that they give anymore). Or is the flu shot considered a vaccine as well? Either way, we should get it.
It is considered a vaccine. Reality is they do not know if it prevents you from getting covid. They do not know if it prevents you from transmitting covid. They believe it helps to moderate symptoms. They do not know any long term risks from the vaccine since there has not been enough time to study them. A lot of don't knows.
Do your homework, consider your health and risk before taking the vaccine. My wife took it (health care worker -- no side effects), I will not take it, I have no health risks. My 77 year old father tested positive for Covid on January 7th, his only symptom has been a slight headache. My mother tested negative and has no symptoms. I have a co-worker (mid 50's) who spent 10 days in the hospital with Covid. He had several co-morbidities. He got it from his 80 year old father who had a slight headache (this guy walks 5 miles a day).
There have been 28 studies that have shown Ivermectin to have very good results in treating Covid, also as a prophylaxsis and preventing the spread of Covid. These are small studies. NIH just removed its guidance to not use it and is now neutral on its use for Covid. It cost about $2 a pill and is very low risk. It is used to treat parasites.
Statement on Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines (nih.gov)
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